Phil Brown or Michael Jolley?

So lets think about this,

One candidate - Intelligent, hungry self starter who has had a successful career to date and has been brave enough to educate himself to diversify his career and work his apprenticeship at one o the best run premier league clubs. This candidate also took the time to understand what the club is all about before his interview.

The other - Good career in one sector with 2 promotions but it did not end well with both clubs, Managed at the highest level but has recently pursued work at the lowest EFL level, maybe just to stay in the game? Apparently turned down the job due to money/terms.  

Regardless of what league we play in next season I'm glad we got Michael as where GTFC is concerned "he gets it" and will work really hard to take us forward.

Michael Jolley is likely to be here for the long term whereas Phil Brown would have used Town as a stop gap. In the Swindon program today he said he was his aim was to manage into the Premier League again (some hope there!) Not exactly commited to Swindon then!

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Well, our PR has improved in the last fortnight due to it being 'on the pitch'.

Who ever told JF to disappear off the scene in this time of crisis was a genius....the protests...JF himself....the rest of the board.....even Jolley........give who ever it was a medal.

Quoted from MarinerRob

Michael Jolley is likely to be here for the long term whereas Phil Brown would have used Town as a stop gap. In the Swindon program today he said he was his aim was to manage into the Premier League again (some hope there!) Not exactly commited to Swindon then!

I hope Jolley's ambition is to manage in the Premier League too.

Not that he'd say it publicly, but I'd have thought it is.

Yes I would think that he would. But, hopefully, he will want to build a reputation and legacy at Grimsby on the way. He 'gets' it about what Town is all about.

Has anyone actually said that Brown was offered the job?

Quoted from pen penfras

What makes you say Jolley doesn't have a proper contract right now? I thought it was announced as a 6 month rolling contract. I can't see how he'd get sacked even if we did go down, and he says he wants to stay. I would imagine there's a clause in his contract dictating the salary based on what level we're at. That's normal in any contract in football, unless you're bonkers like Sunderland

Where was it announced he was on a six month rolling contract?

Good if he is, and it'd be a  volte face by 'the club' since Fenty refused to answer Pete's question about Slade's length of contract.  

And if it is normal practice in football to have clauses dictating the salary based on what level we're at, why the intercourse did we mess around with all those 1 year contracts on the basis that 'we don't know what division we'll be in next season'? If it's normal practice, are you saying we've been running against the tide all these years PP? I dare say you're right and you've made a damning indictment of the way the club has been run.

It was announced as an "undisclosed rolling contract" if I remember rightly this time. Rather than the 6-month rolling contract that it was publicly announced Hurst and Bignot were on.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Michael was a Jolley good appointment,

Well done Fenty ( did I really say that ) ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUt_2zGfPk4

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Where was it announced he was on a six month rolling contract?

Good if he is, and it'd be a  volte face by 'the club' since Fenty refused to answer Pete's question about Slade's length of contract.  

And if it is normal practice in football to have clauses dictating the salary based on what level we're at, why the intercourse did we mess around with all those 1 year contracts on the basis that 'we don't know what division we'll be in next season'? If it's normal practice, are you saying we've been running against the tide all these years PP? I dare say you're right and you've made a damning indictment of the way the club has been run.

I'm certain I remember it being announced as a rolling contract, I thought it was PD when he announced it, but maybe I read it on the internet. I think the reason they didn't talk about Slade's contract length is because certain people in the press use it as a stick to beat the club with and if they don't know, then they can't stir up more shite. In reality, I don't see why any manager would have a problem with a 6 month rolling contract. It offers both parties a degree of protection and any manager who backs himself to succeed wouldn't care how much of a pay off they get if they get sacked.

As for the normal practice, it is widely known that contracts have clauses based on promotion and relegation in general. But that's not the only reason you wouldn't give a long term contract when you don't know what level you'll be at. If you are fighting for promotion like we were, then you don't want players tied down to 3 year contracts when you don't know if they can cut it at the levels above. Also, I'd say 50% of signings for a good manager turn out to be dogs, you don't want those players staying for 3 years (2 is bad enough for some that we have). On the other side of the fence, players aren't going to sign a long deal if they want to move up quickly and put themselves in the shop window.