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Civvy at last
April 18, 2018, 10:57am

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The Great Coates fields are still empty. Just saying.


But they're not empty are they ?  You just aren't looking closely.
They are absolutely teaming with greater crested, lesser spotted, extremely rare newts.





Apparently    


The wife was going away for a girly weekend.
I jokingly remarked  'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football'
'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied
That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked

She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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April 18, 2018, 11:58am

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Quoted from oldun
The Great Coates fields are still empty. Just saying.



But Sutton Estates did not actually agree to sell the land , only that they might consider it.


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"The commonest thing on this planet is not water , as some people believe, but stupidity ". Frank Zappa
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April 18, 2018, 3:12pm
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Quoted from Civvy at last


But they're not empty are they ?  You just aren't looking closely.
They are absolutely teaming with greater crested, lesser spotted, extremely rare newts.





Apparently    


Just the remains of them - that's what happens when a person with a beard goes out and scatters them all over a field the day before the Ecologist's inspection, they die a few days later...

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April 18, 2018, 7:05pm
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When all's said and done, the club haven't come up with a convincing enough financial plan or framework to make the new stadium happen. It's coming up two years ago this summer from when the council invited a planning application at Peaks Parkway. Where is it?

I think the seemingly single minded approach to Peaks Parkway by the club hasn't helped. Even having a non-chairman who has a seat on the council, which should be a position of influence, seems to work against us. Between the council and the club there seems to be a distinct lack of imagination to create a project that benefits both parties. There's such a plethora of land dotted around central Grimsby that needs regenerating and both parties are missing the chance to present a joined up venture that could solve everything and bring the area into the 21st century. The football club will still need a new stadium in twenty years at this rate and the council's weak proposed plans to regenerate the Marshes with fluffy projects without substance will soon descend those areas into becoming sinkholes once again..
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April 18, 2018, 7:18pm
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It is not a vanity project, only the nimbys would say that, it is more for rugby than football though - they are fanatical about it down there - if they got in the rugby prem I could see them getting 8-10k crowds like Exeter.



I didn't say it was - I was suggesting that ours was/is/will never be.
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April 18, 2018, 7:27pm

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The problem in trying to get anything passed with this council is Fenty is disliked on there nearly as much as he is on here.


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April 18, 2018, 7:33pm
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When all's said and done, the club haven't come up with a convincing enough financial plan or framework to make the new stadium happen. It's coming up two years ago this summer from when the council invited a planning application at Peaks Parkway. Where is it?

I think the seemingly single minded approach to Peaks Parkway by the club hasn't helped. Even having a non-chairman who has a seat on the council, which should be a position of influence, seems to work against us. Between the council and the club there seems to be a distinct lack of imagination to create a project that benefits both parties. There's such a plethora of land dotted around central Grimsby that needs regenerating and both parties are missing the chance to present a joined up venture that could solve everything and bring the area into the 21st century. The football club will still need a new stadium in twenty years at this rate and the council's weak proposed plans to regenerate the Marshes with fluffy projects without substance, which once built, will soon descend those areas into being sinkholes once again..


The report commissioned by NELC called East Marsh After The Towers (google it) eloquently shows why the Freemo site isn't big enough. The club need 20 acres to produce a stadium with the add ons of training pitches etc. As far as I can see none of that 20 acres is for the enabling housing development which it has been widely accepted doesn't need to be in the vicinity of the stadium development.  Perhaps more worrying from the council's point of view is that the report writers have found little interest from the private sector in being involved in redeveloping that part of town.


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April 18, 2018, 7:39pm
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The report commissioned by NELC called East Marsh After The Towers (google it) eloquently shows why the Freemo site isn't big enough. The club need 20 acres to produce a stadium with the add ons of training pitches etc. As far as I can see none of that 20 acres is for the enabling housing development which it has been widely accepted doesn't need to be in the vicinity of the stadium development.  Perhaps more worrying from the council's point of view is that the report writers have found little interest from the private sector in being involved in redeveloping that part of town.


I'm not talking specifically about the Freemo area Barra. I'm looking at the area as a whole. And.. it's an insult to everyone's intelligence for the reports to suggest the training pitches need to be included in that particular site alongside the stadium anyway..

With a bit of joined up blue sky thinking there could be a great many sites dotted around the area that could be improved with a new stadium and enabling developments..

It could take longer and be more complicated but the reward would be long lasting solutions and benefits..
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April 18, 2018, 7:39pm
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Quoted from grimsby pete
The problem in trying to get anything passed with this council is Fenty is disliked on there nearly as much as he is on here.


For the council to pass something an application has to be made first !!!!!!!!!!

We have fck all to offer, fck all to work with.


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April 18, 2018, 7:43pm
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Quoted from grimsby pete
The problem in trying to get anything passed with this council is Fenty is disliked on there nearly as much as he is on here.


You may have a point but at the moment NELC is a hung council so it hasn't been beyond  the realms of possibility that Labour and the Tories did a deal over this in exchange for other deals....it's the reality of having no-one in overall control. Much as I dislike Tories they have been behind Peaks Parkway from Day 1. You also have to remember that the council have already voted in favour of the site.
I'm no expert on house-building but I do know that the developers of the housing developments currently under construction i.e. the four off Humberston Avenue are having trouble selling them and a hold has been put on more development on those sites. It is a possibility that interested parties are looking at that and thinking twice about committing to the Parkway development but I must stress I'm only guessing.


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