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April 14, 2018, 7:04pm
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Classic game of two halves and a draw was fair enough, but i can't help but be disappointed that we didn't take three points and virtually secure our league status. We needed that second goal in the first half and their body language wasn't good. Allen made a tactical change and got a handle on our midfield which Summerfield was dominating.

As we thought,Allen got into them at half time and they were all over us second half, with us sat way too deep and hacking the ball back to them time after time. It was inevitable that they would score and you could see them grow in confidence from then on. Bit lucky with their second but it wan't unexpected. We kept going though and Clifton did brilliantly to win to win the pen.

Can't be too disappointed with the result, but they are the worst away team in the country and again, we had no goal from a striker and no goal from open play. Throw-ins, set pieces and corners are keeping us alive at the moment, but with three games left, it i still in our hands.

Just one more clean sheet, and we would have been home and hosed. On to the next one.


I thought a draw wouldn't be too bad, but having seen Barnet today and looking at the respective run ins I am not so sure.

Barnet always looked like they could create something, and it looked to me they would be able to get some more points from their games, but us I am not confident at all.

I thought today we started well enough, but we are really really poor and I thought we were a tad lucky to get a point. I still think we will go down. A couple of weeks ago it was Chesterfield I was worried about; now I think Barnet could well catch us. Thank goodness for the point though otherwise it would have been a bloody disaster.
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Cardwell's effort is undoubtedly there but the jury is out for me on whether there is anything else lurking.  I don't suppose I'm the only one who wishes it was either McSheffrey or Jackson who had the chance that he missed-albeit after some truly excellent interchange with Dembele. His willingness to run for the most hopeless of causes is admirable but I see someone in desperate need of some coaching. He hasn't had much game time for whatever reason and here we are at the sharp end of the season where his every touch is under the microscope.  I did wonder whether Jolley might have left him on and "partnered" him with McSheffrey in much the same way as Podge used to be in Omar's ear all game in the early days.


As he's been under the tutelage of Wilko for a season, I wonder whether it's the coaching or a lack of ability.
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As he's been under the tutelage of Wilko for a season, I wonder whether it's the coaching or a lack of ability.


Mmmm. That opens a whole new can of worms!!


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Cardwell's effort is undoubtedly there but the jury is out for me on whether there is anything else lurking.  I don't suppose I'm the only one who wishes it was either McSheffrey or Jackson who had the chance that he missed-albeit after some truly excellent interchange with Dembele. His willingness to run for the most hopeless of causes is admirable but I see someone in desperate need of some coaching. He hasn't had much game time for whatever reason and here we are at the sharp end of the season where his every touch is under the microscope.  I did wonder whether Jolley might have left him on and "partnered" him with McSheffrey in much the same way as Podge used to be in Omar's ear all game in the early days.


I don't think there is anything else lurking, no.

He would have shown something by now, but his only asset seems to be he tries, although woefully slow off the mark and seemingly devoid of any anticipation. Even having said that, I think he gave us more than Vernon who is just not mobile enough. Lets be honest, they are all terrible - this must be the most toothless collection of forward players we have ever had.
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Cardwell's effort is undoubtedly there but the jury is out for me on whether there is anything else lurking.  I don't suppose I'm the only one who wishes it was either McSheffrey or Jackson who had the chance that he missed-albeit after some truly excellent interchange with Dembele. His willingness to run for the most hopeless of causes is admirable but I see someone in desperate need of some coaching. He hasn't had much game time for whatever reason and here we are at the sharp end of the season where his every touch is under the microscope.  I did wonder whether Jolley might have left him on and "partnered" him with McSheffrey in much the same way as Podge used to be in Omar's ear all game in the early days.


I've seen him once - (at Carlisle) and he looked 'raw' to me - relatively slow and a poor first touch - and this was Michael Jolley's first watching game before starting as manager - so surprised he went with him his starting 11 today. Agree with you.



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I thought a draw wouldn't be too bad, but having seen Barnet today and looking at the respective run ins I am not so sure.

Barnet always looked like they could create something, and it looked to me they would be able to get some more points from their games, but us I am not confident at all.

I thought today we started well enough, but we are really really poor and I thought we were a tad lucky to get a point. I still think we will go down. A couple of weeks ago it was Chesterfield I was worried about; now I think Barnet could well catch us. Thank goodness for the point though otherwise it would have been a bloody disaster.


Yep, still worried after watching them today with their run in. One good 45 mins from us and we were all but safe, but as ever, we are now left wondering right until the end now. Has to be said though that we are pushovers and Barnet very rarely score 2 goals in a game, so there is some hope there. It's not a stretch to think they could be only 2 points behind us next week with 2 to play. I think Chesterfield may well be down by the time they go there, so won't meet much resistance. Their other game is away to Morecambe, who are draw specialists. They could conceivably get 7 points from their remaining games, meaning we would need 2 or 3 depending on goal difference. I thought we needed 4 more points, as long as three of them were against Barnet, now it's squeaky bum time again. Oh for a win today to ease the worries.
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Thought before game that one point would be OK, but results in other games (Chesterfield notwithstanding) leads me to think that we're going to come up short. Relegation calculator tonight gives Chesterfield and ourselves for the drop.  
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The way we sat back and changed to what seemed a 451 in the second half with hooper on the wing is what cost us the game and lack of earlier  substitutions are imo what cost us 3 points against what can only be described as a awful barnet side.

Why on earth hooper was left on for as long as he was is another talking point , he cannot last past 60 mins or so and his fitness is very questionable to say the least.

Now some will say a point gained but for me its 2 points dropped , cardwell runs all day but its clear to see he lacks the quality needed even at league two , fox had a poor game and i got shot down a few weeks ago buly saying he might do a job short term but again i dont think hes good enough.

We drew a game in what we should have won after a decent first half and the manager has to take the blame in the way he set the team up second half , some might say im being harsh but we should have never have drew that game after the first half.

Summerfield for me was motm but all today showed was massive overhaul needed and is jolley tactically as aware as he thinks he is.

Frustrated.


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Barnet may well be poor, but so are we, and i think people are tending to overlook that. They are in better form than us and deserved at least a draw. You have to give credit to Martin Allen today. We were well on top for 30 mins and he made a tactical substitution which got back into the game. Obviously worked a bit of magic at half time too. Think Barnet deserve a bit of credit, they looked to have more technical players than us, but obviously have a soft centre. Frustrating yes, but we are still well in the fight.
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I will settle for a point after that. We are 5 points in front with 3 to play. If we were in Barnet’s shoes we’d be saying it’s over and that there’s next to no chance, so let’s be positive and hopefully the boys will make sure of it now.
Defeat would have been an absolute disaster and it looked for a minute like Allen may have just taught Jolley a lesson. Allen didn’t look like a man that had given up and rolled the dice half an hour in and we didn’t know how to respond to it. For about 60 minutes we were second best, inviting pressure and hanging on in there. We got the point though.
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