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Civvy at last
April 25, 2018, 9:43pm

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You old gits need to get over it and accept that football will never be the circus it was when you were young. Football matches shouldn't be like concerts with crushing and surging crowds.

Really bored of this discuss from the same old farts who want to relive their glory days of yesteryear. There is no benefit to bringing standing back at all, in any form.


Spoken like a true Arsenal fan.
Of course if you were that bored, you have got the option not to join the fcuk in !!
Just leave us old farts to wallow in our history.  
I remember climbing over the bog wall to get in the Barrets Stand for nowt.


The wife was going away for a girly weekend.
I jokingly remarked  'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football'
'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied
That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked

She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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April 26, 2018, 3:18am

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Quoted from Kris2


Really bored of this discuss from the same old farts who want to relive their glory days of yesteryear.  


Well you can kindly get yourself to intercourse then, can’t you?
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Take this thread down please till it happens
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April 27, 2018, 9:34am

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*** UPDATE ***

Shaun Harvey and the EFL have, oddly, been very supportive of fans having a choice on sitting or standing.

They’re currently looking for views from fans on the proposals through a quick survey.

It’s about 6 tick-box questions and takes about a minute to complete. Everyone should complete this whether you opposed to the idea or support it.


It’s about choice. You wouldn’t expect such a lack of choice at any other commercial venue, why at football?

https://goodform.researchfeedback.net/wh/s.asp?k=152464904563
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That's wishful thinking ! In the 1999/00 season we had 10 home games where the gate was below 6,000 and 6 of those were below 5,500. Even our opening home game of the season to Stockport only attracted 5,528 and this was at Championship level. At the time the capacity of BP was 10,033. I think a lot of fans look at our past gates with rose-tinted glasses and don't realise how mediocre the gates were for that level of football. Yes, we often recall a game against the likes of Barnsley ( 8742 ) but forget games like W.B.A ( 4036 ). I know the away support can have a big impact on the gate but the reality is different to the recollection as regards home support.


Around that time I used to visit the clubs offices on business a lot - usually weekly.

Tim Harvey and Tony Richardson and others in there were at a loss at how a club with the catchment area of ours could get so low gates in the second tier. I think they thought a new stadium might be the answer as Blundell Park then was how Blundell Park is now.

I remember a night game against Wolves and thinking just prior to kick off how painfully thin the home crowd was, and the crowds were really very poor for the level we were at and the calibre of teams we were facing.

I think it was a mixture of things that kept the crowds so low. Believe it or not apathy that we were in the "Championship" played a part; the stadium and associated parking played a part, as did the idea that there was nothing else the club could aspire to - in the sense the Premier League was completely out of the question so the only way was down!

I remember the club being irritated that the ticket sales were so low, feeling that the public didn't realise what they had got - and subsequent events have proved them right.

And yet only  a few years before we were getting pretty good gates when BP had a higher capacity so it is difficult to understand what put the Grimsby public off. Every club has boardroom stuff and new managers to contend with, but the public seemed to fall out of love with the club.

I think our gates now are not too far off what we used to get for some games at Championship level which is utterly bizarre when you think about it; a town of our size and catchment area should surely be able to attract 10,000 if we were top end of league 1 with the facilities to match, but whether we will ever find out or ever get a sea change in the clubs fortunes we will have to wait and see.
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April 27, 2018, 11:58am
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Around that time I used to visit the clubs offices on business a lot - usually weekly.

Tim Harvey and Tony Richardson and others in there were at a loss at how a club with the catchment area of ours could get so low gates in the second tier. I think they thought a new stadium might be the answer as Blundell Park then was how Blundell Park is now.

I remember a night game against Wolves and thinking just prior to kick off how painfully thin the home crowd was, and the crowds were really very poor for the level we were at and the calibre of teams we were facing.

I think it was a mixture of things that kept the crowds so low. Believe it or not apathy that we were in the "Championship" played a part; the stadium and associated parking played a part, as did the idea that there was nothing else the club could aspire to - in the sense the Premier League was completely out of the question so the only way was down!

I remember the club being irritated that the ticket sales were so low, feeling that the public didn't realise what they had got - and subsequent events have proved them right.

And yet only  a few years before we were getting pretty good gates when BP had a higher capacity so it is difficult to understand what put the Grimsby public off. Every club has boardroom stuff and new managers to contend with, but the public seemed to fall out of love with the club.

I think our gates now are not too far off what we used to get for some games at Championship level which is utterly bizarre when you think about it; a town of our size and catchment area should surely be able to attract 10,000 if we were top end of league 1 with the facilities to match, but whether we will ever find out or ever get a sea change in the clubs fortunes we will have to wait and see.


This is the cycle of apathy GTFC have been caught up in for years it`s no one person to blame but the mindset is all wrong in regards to getting more fans in .The the rare time GTFC have a bit of football fortune the Club fail miserably to capitilise because the likes of Harvey/Richardson/Wraith /Smith etc did nothing but sit back and wait for more fans to appear.This process has never worked to a great extent before even under Buckley when we played brilliant football the gates were never through the roof and maintained.That team were not marketed correctly by the Club then 98 it happened again 30k went to Wembley yet the following Season the best average for donkeys years was 7k due to the Clubs malaise. Square pegs round holes the Club needs a massive overhaul and it`s high time someone with some drive took charge of that office.The fans are out there GTFC just have no clue how to harnass them.
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April 27, 2018, 12:30pm
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I believe as a rough calculation clubs in towns like ours, where there isn't another club or town within 15/20 miles gets approx 5% of the local population, in the 70/80s it was nearer 10%, but nowadays there are loads of other things to do and people are just not into football like Sky and BT like to pretend. When we were kids every evening and weekend was spent on the local rec playing, just the odd game on the telly, today how many kids do you see having a kick about, and there's nearly a game on the telly every night.
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April 27, 2018, 6:10pm
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I’d rather have real standing or no standing , Safe standing just looks like a high chair seat .
As for our crowds when we was in the old second division you have to remember lots of other clubs was getting crap gates in the 80s and 90s too.
I remember going to Newcastle and there was only about 15-16000 there , even the likes of Arsenal , Everton and Spurs ect only used to get over 20000 at home .
I can also remember times when you couldn’t have got another person on Blundell Park yet they still claimed it was 5-6000 under capacity
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