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There is some sympathy on the Chester forum at the timing and the lack of backing. But most seem to think he asked for it with public comments about the club/board/players.
Interesting that Chester are supposed to have someone American interested in a takeover.
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Didn't a Yank own them years ago? Seem to remember a previous period of dodgy ownership.
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I know they say beware the Ides of March, but Bignot is going to start being wary of early April Twice in one year he's been sacked in the same week
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I know they say beware the Ides of March, but Bignot is going to start being wary of early April Twice in one year he's been sacked in the same week
April is the cruelest month.
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Am I the only one that has a bit of sympathy for Bignot?!
I ask myself would our club be in the position it is now if Bignot was still in charge? I’m 100% certain we wouldn’t, not saying we would be world beaters but we wouldn’t be in this dire position we find ourselves now.
Would I swap him for Jolley? Absolutely not, not been this excited about our manager since Buckley.
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Am I the only one that has a bit of sympathy for Bignot?!
I ask myself would our club be in the position it is now if Bignot was still in charge? I’m 100% certain we wouldn’t, not saying we would be world beaters but we wouldn’t be in this dire position we find ourselves now.
Would I swap him for Jolley? Absolutely not, not been this excited about our manager since Buckley.
Managers seem to divide opinion more than any other facet of football. A lot, and I mean a lot of people didn't like Alan Buckley. To them he was arrogant, a clever so and so. To others, me included he was next to God. I think it must boil down to personalities as it doesn't seem to matter that much if a manager is successful or not! Bignot was not my cup of tea, whereas Slade was. I have liked quite a few managers over the years, the most popular ones for me being Jimmy McGuigan, Lawrie Mac and Buckley. Some are so so, others detested but there is nothing like a manager to divide fans. As regards Bignot I thought it was what was was happening, or not happening, in training and the way he was acting that made the boards mind up not results on the field.
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Am I the only one that has a bit of sympathy for Bignot?!
I ask myself would our club be in the position it is now if Bignot was still in charge? I’m 100% certain we wouldn’t, not saying we would be world beaters but we wouldn’t be in this dire position we find ourselves now.
Would I swap him for Jolley? Absolutely not, not been this excited about our manager since Buckley.
I want to be excited about Jolley but I remember being excited about Newell so I darent!
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There is some sympathy on the Chester forum at the timing and the lack of backing. But most seem to think he asked for it with public comments about the club/board/players.
Interesting that Chester are supposed to have someone American interested in a takeover.
No chance. It's been said on here (and other places) a million times there is no one in the world interested in buying/investing a football club.
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Am I the only one that has a bit of sympathy for Bignot?!
I ask myself would our club be in the position it is now if Bignot was still in charge.
We'd be rock bottom if we'd stuck with that massive clown.
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I HAD sympathy for bignot but on reflection, for someone whos spent their entire career in football it seems really naive to play about experimenting the way he did, instead of having a go at pushing for the playoffs, points wise he couldve got the same dissapointing amount and not got sacked if he’d just looked like he was keeping a steadier ship. His palley interviews alongside his star pupil gavin gunning, and openly discrediting players technical ability, just comes across as daft
But that shouldnt have discouraged the board from looking at other up and coming management talent and slade was on such an obvious downward spiral that was a stupid appointment but thats another story
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I HAD sympathy for bignot but on reflection, for someone whos spent their entire career in football it seems really naive to play about experimenting the way he did, instead of having a go at pushing for the playoffs, points wise he couldve got the same dissapointing amount and not got sacked if he’d just looked like he was keeping a steadier ship. His palley interviews alongside his star pupil gavin gunning, and openly discrediting players technical ability, just comes across as daft
But that shouldnt have discouraged the board from looking at other up and coming management talent and slade was on such an obvious downward spiral that was a stupid appointment but thats another story
That interview along with Gunning still gives me the creeps now, like something from a Hitchcock movie, this club is better than that
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Didn't a Yank own them years ago? Seem to remember a previous period of dodgy ownership.
Yeah it was a bloke with American Football links I think. Ended up managing the team too (to relegation out the FL, unsurprisingly!)
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Maybe the its the same people who wanted to takeover us
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We'd be rock bottom if we'd stuck with that massive clown.
Agree with this. Bignot started with the side in a really strong and comfortable position. We had a small squad that just needed a little tweaking. Slade was not the answer but Bignot had spent the Bogle money on magic beans and left a massive unbalanced squad. There was no method or reasoning to his tactics and many of the performances were woeful.
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Did he not sign Jones, and Osborne though?, who some would argue were better than many player we have now.
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I do think Bignot bought well, if you allow for a 50/50 strike rate on signings.
Yes, there were some duds (Gunning, etc) but Osborne and Jones looked very capable of excelling at this level given the right support, while Asante, Yussuf and Dyson looked to have enough about them to develop under a manager that wanted them and would've given them time on the pitch.
Buckley bought some rubbish every now and again, even Hurst signed rubbish (Straker, Brodie, etc).
One thing I agreed with was Bignot's assessment that we needed more technical players. The best were Osborne and Jones, and they were the two good things about our squad in the summer but Slade got rid and here we are.
I've over-simplified it, but it's impossible to know where we would be today had we stuck with Bignot. Personally I think we'd be something like 16th but equally discontent because it would've represented no progress and there would probably be calls for him to go in that parallel universe.
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Didn't a Yank own them years ago? Seem to remember a previous period of dodgy ownership.
There but for the grace of JF maybe
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This bloke isn’t going to football league manager anytime soon think he has lost it already
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Agree with this. Bignot started with the side in a really strong and comfortable position. We had a small squad that just needed a little tweaking. Slade was not the answer but Bignot had spent the Bogle money on magic beans and left a massive unbalanced squad. There was no method or reasoning to his tactics and many of the performances were woeful.
He must have found someone somewhere selling beans very late on transfer deadline day given that Omar's sale to Wigan was one of the latest deals to take place http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/38482984
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Dave challinors doing an amazing job with AFC fylde, who unbeleivably could be a football league club next season, and if they don't I find it hard to beleive someone won't want to poach him soon Off topic I know but vaguely related and not worth starting a thread over
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We'd be rock bottom if we'd stuck with that massive clown.
Is this the same manager who brought some decent players to the club and was then replaced by a real clown who ended up getting rid of them!
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He must have found someone somewhere selling beans very late on transfer deadline day given that Omar's sale to Wigan was one of the latest deals to take place http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/38482984
I would also be amazed if he had managed to spend money that the club still hasn't received. Take a look at the accounts and it's not there yet.
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Is this the same manager who brought some decent players to the club and was then replaced by a real clown who ended up getting rid of them!
Not sure he could have done a worse job than (spit) (Cough) Slade (spit) the worst spell I have seen for years.
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The thing with bigmott was he couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel but could rate a good prostitute...basically tactically useless but, give him his due, he could spot a player...he'd make a good scout but useless as a manager
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Thing about Bignot was that he didn't quite get that is wasn't all about him. If he'd spent as much time enraging the players as he did playing to the audience he might have done better!
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I know they say beware the Ides of March, but Bignot is going to start being wary of early April Twice in one year he's been sacked in the same week
His new nickname is Tulip, he is out every Aprii.
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He must have found someone somewhere selling beans very late on transfer deadline day given that Omar's sale to Wigan was one of the latest deals to take place http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/38482984
Don't bring facts into it. If people went around bringing the facts into it where would we be?
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Don't bring facts into it. If people went around bringing the facts into it where would we be?
Getting it right?
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The thing with bigmott was he couldn't organise an orgy in a brothel but could rate a good prostitute...basically tactically useless but, give him his due, he could spot a player...he'd make a good scout but useless as a manager
I don't know much about brothels, but I'd imagine that the first thing on your mind would be how good the talent was. And organisation wouldn't feature at all. Unless you really did have a strange perversion.
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I would also be amazed if he had managed to spend money that the club still hasn't received. Take a look at the accounts and it's not there yet.
Which part of the accounts? Are you saying that the bit of the accounts which says that net player trading was £826,183 does not include the Bogle sale fee? You might be right that not all the cash had been paid by Wigan by the time the accounts were prepared.
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There but for the grace of JF maybe
I've never advocated swapping JF for some other rich person or company.
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Yeah it was a bloke with American Football links I think. Ended up managing the team too (to relegation out the FL, unsurprisingly!)
That's it. Think there was even talk of selling the Deva stadium as well.
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Is this the same manager who brought some decent players to the club and was then replaced by a real clown who ended up getting rid of them!
Two clowns don't make a circus.
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Two clowns don't make a circus.
It does make it a laughing stock though.
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Don't bring facts into it. If people went around bringing the facts into it where would we be?
Oooh!! That's contentious KM.... is there a place to getyourfactsright or not?
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Not sure he could have done a worse job than (spit) (Cough) Slade (spit) the worst spell I have seen for years.
I was referring to the fact that MB brought some decent players to the club and Slade ( Coco the Clown ) decided to get rid. I would have been happy for Bignot to have stayed and at least had a summer transfer window to see what he would have brought to the club.
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