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Fenty wants out as he’s stated and some rumours flying about that it could be sooner than we think , I can’t wait to hear his exit strategy . Wonder how many times football fortune will get mentioned 🤔
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Absolutely. I'm not saying it's impossible. But the consensus seems to be that fan ownership will suddenly transform us into a successful club.

The budget wouldn't be larger. Who would underwrite the club's finances? I know we don't lose much at the moment, but day to day running we probably dip into the overdraft which wouldn't be there without somebody to underwrite it. Then you get in the press for not paying players, staff etc and can't be good for morale. If results don't go well, attendances will drop and the situation would be far worse.

The thing that stands out most to me is that the majority of people calling for fan ownership aren't willing to do a single thing towards making it happen, unless you count bleeting on about it on here. If you genuinely want to go in this direction then you need to take the bull by the horns and start putting something in action. It may not prove fruitful, but at least you tried to do what you believe in. It's always much easier to let somebody else do it, but that somebody doesn't appear to be forthcoming.


The reason we operate where we may require dipping into an overdraft/need to utilise a benefactor is because how badly run we are.  That's the issue.  The issue isn't if the next owner is a fan group or an individual, the issue is that they have to be effective and make the club so.  Basic and sensible budget control would see GTFC operate at a tidy surplus each year, we quite clearly don't have that at present.
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The reason we operate where we may require dipping into an overdraft/need to utilise a benefactor is because how badly run we are.  That's the issue.  The issue isn't if the next owner is a fan group or an individual, the issue is that they have to be effective and make the club so.  Basic and sensible budget control would see GTFC operate at a tidy surplus each year, we quite clearly don't have that at present.


All of this.

Just imagine how many more would come through the turnstiles if the 'product' was better, the matchday experience was better and the fans actually believed that the club value their support.
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I take your point about taking the bull by the horns. I find it sad and disappointing that more aren't up for it. Not really viable for someone like me to do due to distance and work commitments.

But no body is saying we would be necessarily  more successful on the pitch. I think that would come over time. i think the club would be run more with the supporters, its lifeblood, in mind, and that would make a more stable, longterm fanbase, greater sense of ownership and patience. I think the support would be more tolerant of things when results weren't going our way.

As for 'bleating' on social media, well its partly about seeing what the appetite is and who can be persuaded. Same as people 'bleating' about any issue they feel strongly about.


A lot are up for it but not being engaged and told to remain patient.If things don`t move quickly off the field we will be kicking off once again behind the 8 ball.
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yes..i am a pessimistic tw@t regards GTFC   ......

Currently if you take what many would regard as a potential lead in fan ownership ...the trust .... an organisation formed, made up and run by supporters... they appear to be at odds internally with the limited power/control they have to date and dont seem to be clear on their direction...that is why i have doubts about it working for the entire control of the club here.




Sorry for being a bit harsh. Was in a bad mood Sunday.

The Trust from its inception, to my mind, has always been too unambitious/conservative in respect of fan ownership*. The current board don't seem to want it and that's their prerogative, and until the membership tell them they want it.

* set out in the aims of the organisation the object is to improve supporter engagement or something like that, which could be interpreted in a number of ways.


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A lot are up for it but not being engaged and told to remain patient.If things don`t move quickly off the field we will be kicking off once again behind the 8 ball.


When's the next Trust meeting open for members?


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