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Sadly, the Trust have been managed far better than the football team. As soon as they got those shares and became a threat, they were corralled and neutered by the board. The key phrase when the Trust shares became an issue was "control is outside of the boardroom" and that is what it's all about- control. The SLO has been edged out for one of their own and now Alan Rutter has been installed, a well known Fenty acolyte. Anyone that is opposed to the regime in any way soon ends up leaving or being pushed aside. The Trust are a well meaning body and they no doubt care deeply about the club, but they are powerless and the sooner they get off the board the better. I can see the argument by some that they should not relinquish their board position, but it's merely symbolic in my opinion and carries no weight, even though it represents the biggest body and major financial contributor to the club- the fans.
Not sure of the legality of repeating what gets said in the boardroom and too be honest JF and the board should keep things behind closed doors but that should not stop the Trust Rep from expressing in the strongest possible terms the fans disquiet.The board position was a great chance to take the Club forward OP showed what could be done when the support was galvanized.However sadly it now appears OP drove some sort of wedge and is being used as a stick to beat the fans with by the Club who compound it by then trying to take the fans for granted at every opportunity all the while pointing the finger.When will someone at GTFC take responsibility for something like Port Vale and the shocking lack of know how in controlling a football crowd in this case 100 or so morons allowed to open a gate and attack home supporters?They get so many little things wrong time and again and I can only think it`s square pegs in round holes everything about GTFC seems not as good as it could and should be.Were better than this but sadly far too many of us are that used to it now we just accept it.Not good enough Mariner`s Trust and you need to be saying so LOUDLY
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There are some quite amazing accusations being thrown about here about individuals with zero grounding in reality, from what I’ve seen.
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I've heard the argument countless times that the Trust is better infuencing the club from within. Well, this season where has the influence on the board's actions been on the following list or are they just too aligned to JF and the boys? And this is less than one season's worth..
Unbalanced squad recruitment in the summer
Too many pre-season friendlies against lower tier teams
Allowing talented players to leave in January when we're struggling
No influence on sacking Slade earlier
Checkatrade voting
Bragate stance by the club Calling fans with an alternative view vile without being held to account
Calling fans bullies over Checkatrade attendances without being held to account
SLO farce
Matt Dean attack
Snooker table interviews
Pointless and ludicrous Powerpoint presentations by the manager at a Fans Forum
Stopping a boardroom colleague offering ten round straighteners
Thinking Stephen Marley is the right PR person at a Fans Forum
Endless sanctimonious statements with digs at the fans
Letting the board undermine the Trust at every opportunity
Allow board members to slag off OP without being held to account
Allow board members to slag off the Trust without being held to account
Not holding Extreme to account for Twitter rants
Allow the board to punish fans for Port Vale
Not insisting on a members vote re American investment
As well meaning as the Trust seems, this list proves how toothless it really is on the board of GTFC. The other board members will do exactly what they want anyway and are keeping their "perceived enemy" under control at close quarters..
Time for a stepping away and reincarnation in my opinion..
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There are some quite amazing accusations being thrown about here about individuals with zero grounding in reality, from what I’ve seen.
Well maybe you being the font of all knowledge can put us right Grant?
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There are some quite amazing accusations being thrown about here about individuals with zero grounding in reality, from what I’ve seen.
So we want Fenty (and the rest of the board) to leave (ideally tomorrow) and the Trust to be disbanded? In other words anyone who has stuck their head above the parapet and assumed some sort of office. Seems reasonable to me
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So we want Fenty (and the rest of the board) to leave (ideally tomorrow) and the Trust to be disbanded? In other words anyone who has stuck their head above the parapet and assumed some sort of office. Seems reasonable to me
You surely realise Rob this is all your fault or at least you must be next in line for a good kick in
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You surely realise Rob this is all your fault or at least you must be next in line for a good kick in
It's all my fault I admit it. If I hadn't have founded the Fishy we'd still be in the Championship, and might even have been playing the Europa Cup tonight.
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I've heard the argument countless times that the Trust is better infuencing the club from within. Well, this season where has the influence on the board's actions on the following list or are they just too aligned to JF and the boys? And this is less than one season's worth..
Unbalanced squad recruitment in the summer
Too many pre-season friendlies against lower tier teams
Allowing talented players to leave in January when we're struggling
No influence on sacking Slade earlier
Checkatrade voting
Bragate stance by the club Calling fans with an alternative view vile without being held to account
Calling fans bullies over Checkatrade attendances without being held to account
SLO farce
Matt Dean attack
Snooker table interviews
Pointless and ludicrous Powerpoint presentations by the manager at a Fans Forum
Stopping a boardroom colleague offering ten round straighteners
Thinking Stephen Marley is the right PR person at a Fans Forum
Endless sanctimonious statements with digs at the fans
Letting the board undermine the Trust at every opportunity
Allow board members to slag off OP without being held to account
Allow board members to slag off the Trust without being held to account
Not holding Extreme to account for Twitter rants
Allow the board to punish fans for Port Vale
Not insisting on a members vote re American investment
As well meaning as the Trust seems, this list proves how toothless it really is on the board of GTFC. The other board members will do exactly what they want anyway and are keeping their "perceived enemy" under control at close quarters..
Time for a stepping away and reincarnation in my opinion..
Lets have it right though, the people who have given time to the Trust have been involved in some hugely positive things. Operation Promotion was an amazing effort and must have taken a huge amount of work. The response from the then SLO and Trust chairman to Bragate was fantastic and they were totally let down by the club. It's clear from the comments that Bax has made that their are problems and that the club has been able to influence decisions and communications where it shouldnt be able to. Who's fault is that? is it well meaning people who give up their time for free or is it those who seek to influence when they should not? I think the Trust survey showed that the many fans want the Trust to seek change and i expect that will have been discussed heavily at the meeting last night. I would be very shocked if they are not putting the 30k to a members vote and if they do not asking if they should be seeking a change of leadership at the club.
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Lets have it right though, the people who have given time to the Trust have been involved in some hugely positive things. Operation Promotion was an amazing effort and must have taken a huge amount of work. The response from the then SLO and Trust chairman to Bragate was fantastic and they were totally let down by the club.
It's clear from the comments that Bax has made that their are problems and that the club has been able to influence decisions and communications where it shouldnt be able to. Who's fault is that? is it well meaning people who give up their time for free or is it those who seek to influence when they should not?
I think the Trust survey showed that the many fans want the Trust to seek change and i expect that will have been discussed heavily at the meeting last night. I would be very shocked if they are not putting the 30k to a members vote and if they do not asking if they should be seeking a change of leadership at the club.
Exactly, and you emphasise my point even more by highlighting three great things the Trust have done that were independent from the GTFC boardroom.. Every bad decision that's come from the GTFC boardroom the Trust haven't got a prayer of influencing final decisions or even airing their own opinion as they have to tow the boardroom line of discretion..
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Lets have it right though, the people who have given time to the Trust have been involved in some hugely positive things. Operation Promotion was an amazing effort and must have taken a huge amount of work. The response from the then SLO and Trust chairman to Bragate was fantastic and they were totally let down by the club.
It's clear from the comments that Bax has made that their are problems and that the club has been able to influence decisions and communications where it shouldnt be able to. Who's fault is that? is it well meaning people who give up their time for free or is it those who seek to influence when they should not?
I think the Trust survey showed that the many fans want the Trust to seek change and i expect that will have been discussed heavily at the meeting last night. I would be very shocked if they are not putting the 30k to a members vote and if they do not asking if they should be seeking a change of leadership at the club.
Good post hm
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