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Another prickly interview from Jolley. Seems a very frustrated figure at the minute.


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Another prickly interview from Jolley. Seems a very frustrated figure at the minute.


Can you blame him? His the tactical awareness to get us out of this mess but the players are too male masturbation to do what he wants them to
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He is trying to stay calm and positive, which is the right thing to do at the moment. He would be hammered if he came out and said "well that's it we're doomed".
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It must be hard when you see the same thing happening again and again. Poor balls into the box.  Strikers not getting any shots away, silly free kicks in dangerous area's time after time.  Failure to defend the second ball at set pieces.
I don't blame the RH interviewers, they are doing their job.  But feck me, they do tend to state the obvious.  Of course MJ knows he has inherited a bunch of @rse.  Of course he is trying to sort it out.  I notice though that the post match interviews with MJ seem to be a bit more direct and slightly aggressive.  I get the feeling he has told JF/RH he can handle whatever is thrown at him.  And whilst slightly rattled of late (who wouldn't be), I think he's doing quite a good job of it.


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I don't feel he's getting rattled at all. He's handling the interviews really well.
I think the onus is on Burns and co to find a new question - something relevant or interesting because, try as they might, they are never going to get him to say 'Yes it is a quality issue', which is pretty much at the heart of every repetitious question.

Jolley is clever and articulate. They're not going to trip him up.
The questions about defending set pieces are fair game and Jolley sort of admits that there have been some problems, but rightly stresses the high number that are dealt with well. The issue of giving away cheap or silly free kicks is a given, but again, Jolley is never going to say this is the result of having poor players, which, of course, we all know it is. Likewise the 'quality in midfield' issue. Everyone knows this is a stark and costly fact, but admitting that on air will only undermine our cause. We should pause and reflect how difficult it must be for Jolley to manage someone else's below par players, and to keep defending them when their weaknesses and flaws are laid bare every week.

I'm sort of the opinion that there isn't too much point in conducting a pre match and a post match interview every week. There are no new questions and no new answers really. It's all been said.


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Do you know what frustrates me more, that Jolley has to get slightly aggressive just to put RH in their place!..why on earth burnsy feels the need to put Jolley in the hot seat every fecking interview is beyond me, my god RH give the bloke a break!!..
Yes, ask what he can do turn the fortunes of the club around
Yes, ask what the players need to do better at set pieces
Yes, ask where he thinks the goals may come from
NO - stop trying to get Jolley to admit our squad is crud...jeez man, any one with half football brain can see that and we do not need it rammed down our throat at every post match interview conducted by Mr Burns!!
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Thing is managers do affect the players.Without tempting fate I feel Jack Lester would fill me with more passion though than Jolley does if I was a player when listening to the pair of them in interviews.

Think having played the game helps as well.


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Do you know what frustrates me more, that Jolley has to get slightly aggressive just to put RH in their place!..why on earth burnsy feels the need to put Jolley in the hot seat every fecking interview is beyond me, my god RH give the bloke a break!!..
Yes, ask what he can do turn the fortunes of the club around
Yes, ask what the players need to do better at set pieces
Yes, ask where he thinks the goals may come from
NO - stop trying to get Jolley to admit our squad is crud...jeez man, any one with half football brain can see that and we do not need it rammed down our throat at every post match interview conducted by Mr Burns!!


I think it's down to Burnsy's deep-seated desire to put some Q's to John Fenty and tear a few strips off him on behalf of both the fans and RH. That won't happen so he seems to be taking it out on the one GTFC employee who tries to explain what's going on. I expected a bit more subtlety from Burnsy, such as asking about the mess MJ inherited, how did it get like that, what sort of setup sell their top scorer in the middle of a goal drought etc.


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Thing is managers do affect the players.Without tempting fate I feel Jack Lester would fill me with more passion though than Jolley does if I was a player when listening to the pair of them in interviews.

Think having played the game helps as well.


Not that i am jolley protagonist but i have and will always maintain that we needed someone with GTFC in their heart and blood to gets us out the poo.

Give me John Mcdermott and Craig Disley, then you would see passion coming out their mouth like a dragon breathing fire.

But alas, this was my dream, or maybe just a fantasy and for now, we have to give MJ the chance to back his own ambition and hope it does not outweigh his ability.

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Not that i am jolley protagonist but i have and will always maintain that we needed someone with GTFC in their heart and blood to gets us out the poo.

Give me John Mcdermott and Craig Disley, then you would see passion coming out their mouth like a dragon breathing fire.

But alas, this was my dream, or maybe just a fantasy and for now, we have to give MJ the chance to back his own ambition and hope it does not outweigh his ability.



I'm not sure someone who has not got a coaching qualification or senior coaching experience or indeed a failed non league assistant manager would add anything more despite their playing pedigree and history. Dis and Macca are quite rightly so considered legends at GTFC but we need fresh ideas and energy at the club, looking inwards to a degree has caught us out badly in the past.

The Burns interviews frustrate me as he keeps carping on about lack of quality which is something MJ can't fix until the close season, he's tried a number of things and from what I can tell will take us forward when he has his own squad yesterday every player tried their best for sure it's just what he has inherited is a poor side.    

RH have a job to do but as a listener I'm bored of the same questions each week regardless of who the interviewer is.


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Quoted from Rick12
Thing is managers do affect the players.Without tempting fate I feel Jack Lester would fill me with more passion though than Jolley does if I was a player when listening to the pair of them in interviews.

Think having played the game helps as well.


Like it does for Jose and Wenger? There is no evidence to suggest that Jack Lester would have more impact, players tend to take the most notice of managers who are picking the team and paying their wages.  


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Give me John Mcdermott and Craig Disley, then you would see passion coming out their mouth like a dragon breathing fire.



Like Paul Wilkinson? You can just hear the passion oozing out of him when he talks too.
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Thing is managers do affect the players.Without tempting fate I feel Jack Lester would fill me with more passion though than Jolley does if I was a player when listening to the pair of them in interviews.

Think having played the game helps as well.


Quite a few people would have liked Nigel Adkins here and he was a physio. No-one sounds more upbeat and media savvy than Nigel.

The problem is not Jolley or Burns, it is simply the situation. Another game without a win, another performance full of flaws, another set of the same questions from Burns. Nothing changes unless we get a win and then there could be room for a bit of enthusiasm in both question and answer.




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Quite a few people would have liked Nigel Adkins here and he was a physio. No-one sounds more upbeat and media savvy than Nigel.

The problem is not Jolley or Burns, it is simply the situation. Another game without a win, another performance full of flaws, another set of the same questions from Burns. Nothing changes unless we get a win and then there could be room for a bit of enthusiasm in both question and answer.




Exactly! Usually when one of the local teams win the RH interviews blow so much smoke out of the back sides of the manager they look like a BBQ.


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Not that i am jolley protagonist but i have and will always maintain that we needed someone with GTFC in their heart and blood to gets us out the poo.

Give me John Mcdermott then you would see passion coming out their mouth like a dragon breathing fire.

Passion alone wont cut it but it certainly helps.

Always liked Dave Moore.Old school .Cant blame him though for not wanting the job



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Quite a few people would have liked Nigel Adkins here and he was a physio. No-one sounds more upbeat and media savvy than Nigel.

The problem is not Jolley or Burns, it is simply the situation. Another game without a win, another performance full of flaws, another set of the same questions from Burns. Nothing changes unless we get a win and then there could be room for a bit of enthusiasm in both question and answer.


Fan expectation could play a part as well.Most know on here we should be a mid league 1 club at best .However from what Ive read on here players arent up to the standard.

Having said that Coventry at home first game of this season I thought we looked average and not that much worse off than Coventry. Certainly didnt think we would be in the mire come April.



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I'm not sure what some on here expect DB to say, he was complementary about the first half and then went on to say we were crap in the second half and conceded goals to a corner and a daft free kick which is par for the course and that on this form we are going down.
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Having read John McDermott's book I don't think he would manage Town while Fenty is here.
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I think it's down to Burnsy's deep-seated desire to put some Q's to John Fenty and tear a few strips off him on behalf of both the fans and RH. That won't happen so he seems to be taking it out on the one GTFC employee who tries to explain what's going on. I expected a bit more subtlety from Burnsy, such as asking about the mess MJ inherited, how did it get like that, what sort of setup sell their top scorer in the middle of a goal drought etc.


The club reap what they sew....treat the media like sh!t and they will come back at you....Burnsy was always going to have a dig not only from his previous fall outs with JF but now with the Matt Dean fallout, no one at RH will miss an opportunity to have a pop.
Burnsy was trying to get Dave Smith into corners the other week during commentary, little comments here and there alluding to it all being JF's fault.
This week Burnsy had a couple of pops at MJ during commentary " will he turn out to be like the Cowley Bros or just Bignot with a masters"

Not sure if found Jolleys response to the lack of midfield quality  " well unfortunately Andrea Pirlot was unavailable this week"  as an attempt at humour or just a shirty reply.


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Having read John McDermott's book I don't think he would manage Town while Fenty is here.


They've long since kissed and made up mate.


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Not that i am jolley protagonist but i have and will always maintain that we needed someone with GTFC in their heart and blood to gets us out the poo.

Give me John Mcdermott and Craig Disley, then you would see passion coming out their mouth like a dragon breathing fire.

But alas, this was my dream, or maybe just a fantasy and for now, we have to give MJ the chance to back his own ambition and hope it does not outweigh his ability.



Is that all it takes to be a good manager these days is it, and passion? Nothing to do with ability, coaching badges, contacts, experience, man-management etc etc. Here is absolutely zero evidence that Craig Disley would make a good manager, great player yes but manager? Where do Macca's 'passion' get him whilst in charge of Alfreton? The sack!

This is like all of the fantastic, and innovative tactical advice that spills out of the Pontoon and Main Stand each week like 'Pressure' and 'Be Stronger'..... Brilliant!!!


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This is like all of the fantastic, and innovative tactical advice that spills out of the Pontoon and Main Stand each week like 'Pressure' and 'Be Stronger'..... Brilliant!!!


Kevin toms has a lot to answer for.
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He has to stay positive and not slag off his players but he went down a notch or two with me when he wouldn't admit we are excrement at defending set pieces.


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