Chesterfield Fans Forum on the Town Game

The way couple of there fans are talking they probably watched out match last saturday on ifollow.

Some fair comments, especially about who wins the game.

Christ it's been that long since we won, you now get 6 points

If we beat Chesterfield I have us to stay up.

To be fair most have correctly pointed out the fact that we have not won a game for the last twenty matches whereas they have won a few.

Our team don't do pressure well, big noisy crowds always backfire here in recent seasons lets see who wants this most it should tell us everything.

Seems that there is plenty of realism on their forum. If we win, we're in the box seat to stay up, any other result and they are.

Personally, I still think we'll be the ones for the drop as, even if we put in some good performances during the rest of the season, I just can't see where the goals will come from. We've spurned 3 or 4 gilt-edged chances in the last couple of games alone which have may have cost us 3 points. We've missed 3 or 4 penalties this season already so I have no faith that we'd even score one of those if won.

I don't really see any players capable of doing something special to get a goal, perhaps Dembele aside, but we've all seen what awful form he's been in for months. If Jackson returns, will he nick a few important goals? Can't really see it myself.

Hope is really all I have left now. I'll be missing the game on Saturday so if we win, I might have to miss the remaining home games as well. Not that I'm superstitious - touch wood!

All in all this is 2 teams that'll be feeling the pressure of the magnitude of the game and imho I back us to nick it purely on the fact I believe jolley is more tactically aware than jack lester and that jolley can get into the heads of our players and send them out with a relatively calm feeling...

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Christ it's been that long since we won, you now get 6 points

Even if we were allowed to have 6 points for every win this season we would still only be 12th and 10 points outside the play offs !!!!

That forum is a refreshing read compared to most, tbh.. everyone being civil to one another and discussing the point / subject.

It's extremely disheartening to see our comparative stats laid out like that. Our form in the last 3-4 months is just.. hard to even believe.

I'm desperate for us to get a win this weekend. It's getting so painful now.

Agree with chic, decent read.

Found some of it difficult to read. Not because the stats made uncomfortable reading, but because some of it was of Wayne-esque quality.

Jolley and his team of no hopes draw at BP this weekend. 3rd home draw for MJ

Quoted from Mariner Timsky

Jolley and his team of no hopes draw at BP this weekend. 3rd home draw for MJ

Correction........ Fox and McSheffrey apart it’s not his team.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Correction........ Fox and McSheffrey apart it’s not his team.

FFS Herts, I bet its 'his' team if we win! This 'Slade's fault its his team' stuff could go on as long as the ITV money excuse

Quoted from Ipswin

FFS Herts, I bet its 'his' team if we win! This 'Slade's fault its his team' stuff could go on as long as the ITV money excuse

Have you seen them play under Jolley?

Ipswin..............  I shouldn't bother yourself with Herts opinions at all, he is like a rusty old tap, you can't turn it off and it just keeps dripping all day long   zzzzzzzzzz   Boring comment after boring comment, get a life Herts...

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Have you seen them play under Jolley?

No thank intercourse, have I missed many victories?

Are you saying things have changed radically under Jolley? I bloody hope so as surely that's the reason he was appointed and fair dos if they have

If so and Jolley has put his own noticeable stamp on it then perhaps its time to stop referring to 'Slade's team' and 'Slade's fault' when we lose you can't have it both ways

If nowt has changed by all means hide behind Slade's member-ups but it also means that, however impossible the task was, Jolley has failed in what he was employed to do

Crikey ! And I was beginning to think Ipswin was a Jolley soul.

It’s clear this team is not Jolley’s choice of player and who he has brought in has been an improvement. With the team he inherited he has also made improvements despite injuries that have occurred since his arrival. If you can’t see that.......

I'm confused (I know it doesn't take much). Why do the Chesterfield fans keep referring to themselves as "Town"?

Quoted from oochiad

It’s clear this team is not Jolley’s choice of player and who he has brought in has been an improvement. With the team he inherited he has also made improvements despite injuries that have occurred since his arrival. If you can’t see that.......

I don't see it no. We are still not winning games and thats all that counts, how nice and watchable the football is does not matter, 'improvements' as you term them do not sadly get any extra points.

My point was of course that while he is (still) losing, Jolley is excused any criticism as its 'all Slade's fault' but if he happens to win a game (and please God he will on Saturday) its suddenly Jolley's team and its all down to him

Quoted from Les Brechin

I'm confused (I know it doesn't take much). Why do the Chesterfield fans keep referring to themselves as "Town"?

They were called Chesterfield Town about a million years ago. They had been Chesterfield FC before though I think  

No Ipswin if we win I won’t be all ‘oh it’s Jolley’s team’ well done him, I’ll be Christ well after a few weeks work he’s managed to get a result out of that shower of shite. Do you really think any manager could come in and get the team to create chances (as Jolley has done) and expect the likes of Rose for example to miss an absolute sitter Stevenage to suddenly become Ronaldo? Are you one of those blokes who’ll be ‘I told you so’ if we go down or will you give Jolley any credit for the changes he’s made if we stay up? I feel like I’m waffling to no avail as you are so adamant of your view that no one could change it. At least we all want the same thing, a bloody win on Saturday! I can’t say I’m looking forward to it. UTM

Quoted from oochiad

No Ipswin if we win I won’t be all ‘oh it’s Jolley’s team’ well done him, I’ll be Christ well after a few weeks work he’s managed to get a result out of that shower of shite. Do you really think any manager could come in and get the team to create chances (as Jolley has done) and expect the likes of Rose for example to miss an absolute sitter Stevenage to suddenly become Ronaldo? Are you one of those blokes who’ll be ‘I told you so’ if we go down or will you give Jolley any credit for the changes he’s made if we stay up? I feel like I’m waffling to no avail as you are so adamant of your view that no one could change it. At least we all want the same thing, a bloody win on Saturday! I can’t say I’m looking forward to it. UTM

I will certainly give Jolley every credit imaginable if we stay up (but surely that is why he was employed.) In fact I'll be flipping amazed as well as delighted to eat humble pie.

But if we don't I won't excuse his failure to keep us up by blaming Slade, Fenty (hopefully) appointed him to avoid relegation A more experienced 'relegation-fighter' might have been a better choice and yes, in that respect I will say 'I told you so' because I have advocated a more experienced hand from the start

Quoted from Abdul19

They were called Chesterfield Town about a million years ago. They had been Chesterfield FC before though I think  

Maybe we should start calling ourselves "Pelham" then.  

Quoted from Ipswin

I will certainly give Jolley every credit imaginable if we stay up (but surely that is why he was employed.) In fact I'll be flipping amazed as well as delighted to eat humble pie.

But if we don't I won't excuse his failure to keep us up by blaming Slade, Fenty (hopefully) appointed him to avoid relegation A more experienced 'relegation-fighter' might have been a better choice and yes, in that respect I will say 'I told you so' because I have advocated a more experienced hand from the start

Who did you expect Tony Pullis?

Quoted from Ipswin

I will certainly give Jolley every credit imaginable if we stay up (but surely that is why he was employed.) In fact I'll be flipping amazed as well as delighted to eat humble pie.

But if we don't I won't excuse his failure to keep us up by blaming Slade, Fenty (hopefully) appointed him to avoid relegation A more experienced 'relegation-fighter' might have been a better choice and yes, in that respect I will say 'I told you so' because I have advocated a more experienced hand from the start

I don't think Paul harsley is any experienced manager, just because he played hundreds of games as a player that doesn't mean he's and experienced manager... if we go down you will vent your spleen about Jolley but if it was Harsley who took us down you would say "tbf to Paul you can't blame him"

Quoted from Les Brechin

Maybe we should start calling ourselves "Pelham" then.  

Some haven't stopped.  

Quoted from Davec

I don't think Paul harsley is any experienced manager, just because he played hundreds of games as a player that doesn't mean he's and experienced manager... if we go down you will vent your spleen about Jolley but if it was Harsley who took us down you would say "tbf to Paul you can't blame him"

If you care to plough through all the (many ridiculous) posts around the time Fenty was recruiting / interviewing a new manager you will see that I only favoured Harsley (rather than Jolley) on the basis that, if Fenty was hell bent on appointing a keen new (inexperienced) cheap man rather than an experienced hand used to fighting relegation, I wanted him not Jolley

My first choice would have been an experienced man rather than Jolley or Harsley

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Who did you expect Tony Pullis?

I wanted an experienced man who would win games and keep us up, not the Premier League's version of Russel Slade

Thing is if we go down, that suggests that MJ wasn’t the right man and we should have signed a seasoned fire fighter but only one man is accountable for not doing so.

Still hoping that we win the next 2 games ans stay up giving MJ basically a clean slate for next season.

Spireite here in peace.

I'm not normally one to visit opposing teams message boards but due to the gravity of Saturday's fixture, curiosity got the better of me.

It seems there's a club in as much turmoil, both on and off the pitch, as my own.

Off the pitch, we've been riddled with scandal and are constantly being told our debt is rising and the current owner, who wants nothing more to do with us, is being forced into chucking cash in every month just to keep us in business. We're not quite sure what happened to the substantial transfer fees received for Darikwa ( to Burnley ), Morsy ( to Barnsley ), Clucas ( Hull for 1.2m then sell on received from his 16m move to Swansea ), Doyle ( to Cardiff ), Cooper ( to Leeds ) plus Paul Cook compo when he left for Pompey. Need I go on? Our club has been stripped and is on a cliffs edge.

On the pitch. Not much better really. Jack Lester is a club legend but he's taken on one hell of a task.

We are certainly a side capable of some lovely football and we've got, arguably, the best goalscorer in the division. Dennis has the thick end of 20 goals this term in a struggling side.
On the flip side, we have the softest underbelly and we've been bullied out of games time and time again this year.
Injuries have been a huge part of our demise this season but we've shown no heart or desire on far too many occasions and I fear this could be the case Saturday.

I honestly think we are the only side on Saturday that is capable of winning the game but I know far too well that we are more than capable of losing the game by rolling over.

I cannot wish you well for Saturday but I genuinely do not wish to see Grimsby leave the league. I'd much rather be playing yourselves than the likes of Forest Green, Crawley and Yeovil.

Unfortunately I think it's us or you.

Whatever happens I wish GTFC all the best moving forward with sorting their club out.

Quoted from Spireite1866

Spireite here in peace.

I'm not normally one to visit opposing teams message boards but due to the gravity of Saturday's fixture, curiosity got the better of me.

It seems there's a club in as much turmoil, both on and off the pitch, as my own.

Off the pitch, we've been riddled with scandal and are constantly being told our debt is rising and the current owner, who wants nothing more to do with us, is being forced into chucking cash in every month just to keep us in business. We're not quite sure what happened to the substantial transfer fees received for Darikwa ( to Burnley ), Morsy ( to Barnsley ), Clucas ( Hull for 1.2m then sell on received from his 16m move to Swansea ), Doyle ( to Cardiff ), Cooper ( to Leeds ) plus Paul Cook compo when he left for Pompey. Need I go on? Our club has been stripped and is on a cliffs edge.

On the pitch. Not much better really. Jack Lester is a club legend but he's taken on one hell of a task.

We are certainly a side capable of some lovely football and we've got, arguably, the best goalscorer in the division. Dennis has the thick end of 20 goals this term in a struggling side.
On the flip side, we have the softest underbelly and we've been bullied out of games time and time again this year.
Injuries have been a huge part of our demise this season but we've shown no heart or desire on far too many occasions and I fear this could be the case Saturday.

I honestly think we are the only side on Saturday that is capable of winning the game but I know far too well that we are more than capable of losing the game by rolling over.

I cannot wish you well for Saturday but I genuinely do not wish to see Grimsby leave the league. I'd much rather be playing yourselves than the likes of Forest Green, Crawley and Yeovil.

Unfortunately I think it's us or you.

Whatever happens I wish GTFC all the best moving forward with sorting their club out.

Cheers Spirerite. What about the cost of the new ground? Is that where all the money's gone?

When the season started and we saw our last game was against FGR we suspected it might be fateful. Just not this way. Shame we couldn't have been in the position to send them down.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Cheers Spirerite. What about the cost of the new ground? Is that where all the money's gone?

When the season started and we saw our last game was against FGR we suspected it might be fateful. Just not this way. Shame we couldn't have been in the position to send them down.

We can't even use that excuse  

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Cheers Spirerite. What about the cost of the new ground? Is that where all the money's gone?

When the season started and we saw our last game was against FGR we suspected it might be fateful. Just not this way. Shame we couldn't have been in the position to send them down.

We know about the cost of the stadium, or the reported cost anyway.

The problem is the debt is reportedly not being reduced at all and we can't make ends meet.

The transfer fees we've supposedly received in the past few seasons for our level of football is staggering. Clucas was 1.2m then a further 1.6m as the sell on from his move to Swansea, Morsy 500k, Darikwa 500k, Doyle 750k, Cooper 600k.

Add to this we have staged two sell out concerts of Elton John and Tom Jones.

Of course we will still have debts on the stadium but there appears to be a black hole and it's taken millions from our club.

Quoted from Spireite1866

Spireite here in peace.

I'm not normally one to visit opposing teams message boards but due to the gravity of Saturday's fixture, curiosity got the better of me.

It seems there's a club in as much turmoil, both on and off the pitch, as my own.

Off the pitch, we've been riddled with scandal and are constantly being told our debt is rising and the current owner, who wants nothing more to do with us, is being forced into chucking cash in every month just to keep us in business. We're not quite sure what happened to the substantial transfer fees received for Darikwa ( to Burnley ), Morsy ( to Barnsley ), Clucas ( Hull for 1.2m then sell on received from his 16m move to Swansea ), Doyle ( to Cardiff ), Cooper ( to Leeds ) plus Paul Cook compo when he left for Pompey. Need I go on? Our club has been stripped and is on a cliffs edge.

On the pitch. Not much better really. Jack Lester is a club legend but he's taken on one hell of a task.

We are certainly a side capable of some lovely football and we've got, arguably, the best goalscorer in the division. Dennis has the thick end of 20 goals this term in a struggling side.
On the flip side, we have the softest underbelly and we've been bullied out of games time and time again this year.
Injuries have been a huge part of our demise this season but we've shown no heart or desire on far too many occasions and I fear this could be the case Saturday.

I honestly think we are the only side on Saturday that is capable of winning the game but I know far too well that we are more than capable of losing the game by rolling over.

I cannot wish you well for Saturday but I genuinely do not wish to see Grimsby leave the league. I'd much rather be playing yourselves than the likes of Forest Green, Crawley and Yeovil.

Unfortunately I think it's us or you.

Whatever happens I wish GTFC all the best moving forward with sorting their club out.

Ditto mate. 2 proper football teams who really shouldn't be in the situations we find ourselves in.  However, don't think you should be worried about being bullied by us as we are soft as excrement ourselves. We also fall into the trap of giving away ridiculously cheap free kicks in dangerous positions time after time after time and never seem to learn! Jack of course is a legend at BP too and if there was ever a player who could buy us a free kick or penalty when we needed one it was Jack so I'm pretty sure he's taught your lads a few tricks! I'll be surprised if we don't concede from needless situations on Saturday. Can't wish you good luck on Saturday obviously but I hope we both stay up and Barnet and Forest Green go down.  Here's hoping.     

Quoted from Ipswin

I will certainly give Jolley every credit imaginable if we stay up (but surely that is why he was employed.) In fact I'll be flipping amazed as well as delighted to eat humble pie.

But if we don't I won't excuse his failure to keep us up by blaming Slade, Fenty (hopefully) appointed him to avoid relegation A more experienced 'relegation-fighter' might have been a better choice and yes, in that respect I will say 'I told you so' because I have advocated a more experienced hand from the start

You wanted Paul Harsley how is he an 'experienced hand'.

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

You wanted Paul Harsley how is he an 'experienced hand'.

I've answered this excrement once but for the benefit of the thicko Welsh dwelling contingent who clearly have difficulty reading here it is just one more time:-

I only preferred Harsley to Jolley (I am not claiming he was in any way an 'experienced hand', although 500 plus professional appearances put Jolley's Barnsley Boys career in the shade) if Fenty was determined to commit relegation suicide by appointing a new inexperienced young manager.

My preferred choice would have been an established older Football League manager with experience in relegation battles, finishing bottom of the Swedish Premier League especially as that is where he started does not qualify.

If Jolley keeps us up I will be the first to eat humble pie but my concerns will remain about how he is going to fare next season with his own new squad. Even more worrying if he is managing in the National League

Quoted from Ipswin

I've answered this excrement once but for the benefit of the thicko Welsh dwelling contingent who clearly have difficulty reading here it is just one more time:-

I only preferred Harsley to Jolley (I am not claiming he was in any way an 'experienced hand', although 500 plus professional appearances put Jolley's Barnsley Boys career in the shade) if Fenty was determined to commit relegation suicide by appointing a new inexperienced young manager.

My preferred choice would have been an established older Football League manager with experience in relegation battles, finishing bottom of the Swedish Premier League especially as that is where he started does not qualify.

If Jolley keeps us up I will be the first to eat humble pie but my concerns will remain about how he is going to fare next season with his own new squad. Even more worrying if he is managing in the National League

Why would an “established older Football league manager” come to GTFC to replace an “*established older football league manager” unless like the person they where replacing their career is in decline?

Quoted from Spireite1866

Spireite here in peace.

I'm not normally one to visit opposing teams message boards but due to the gravity of Saturday's fixture, curiosity got the better of me.

It seems there's a club in as much turmoil, both on and off the pitch, as my own.

Off the pitch, we've been riddled with scandal and are constantly being told our debt is rising and the current owner, who wants nothing more to do with us, is being forced into chucking cash in every month just to keep us in business. We're not quite sure what happened to the substantial transfer fees received for Darikwa ( to Burnley ), Morsy ( to Barnsley ), Clucas ( Hull for 1.2m then sell on received from his 16m move to Swansea ), Doyle ( to Cardiff ), Cooper ( to Leeds ) plus Paul Cook compo when he left for Pompey. Need I go on? Our club has been stripped and is on a cliffs edge.

On the pitch. Not much better really. Jack Lester is a club legend but he's taken on one hell of a task.

We are certainly a side capable of some lovely football and we've got, arguably, the best goalscorer in the division. Dennis has the thick end of 20 goals this term in a struggling side.
On the flip side, we have the softest underbelly and we've been bullied out of games time and time again this year.
Injuries have been a huge part of our demise this season but we've shown no heart or desire on far too many occasions and I fear this could be the case Saturday.

I honestly think we are the only side on Saturday that is capable of winning the game but I know far too well that we are more than capable of losing the game by rolling over.

I cannot wish you well for Saturday but I genuinely do not wish to see Grimsby leave the league. I'd much rather be playing yourselves than the likes of Forest Green, Crawley and Yeovil.

Unfortunately I think it's us or you.

Whatever happens I wish GTFC all the best moving forward with sorting their club out.

Cheers for that, sounds like you have some long term issues and survival this year might not mean you’ll move forwards next season, bit like us really whilst the current regime is around.

Sounds like our allocation has gone now and it appears away tickets have been sold through Grimsby aswell so should make for a good atmosphere.

I'd be amazed if there aren't any off-field issues tomorrow, unfortunately, but I hope for a proper ding dong on the pitch, plenty of passion from two proud clubs and, obviously, a Spireites win.

Too many plastic Man Utd and Liverpool fans up our way who've got no idea what games like tomorrow mean to genuine football fans.

After tomorrow, the very best of luck. We've both got Forest Green to play so maybe it's possible for us both to escape.

Quoted from Ipswin

I've answered this excrement once but for the benefit of the thicko Welsh dwelling contingent who clearly have difficulty reading here it is just one more time:-

I only preferred Harsley to Jolley (I am not claiming he was in any way an 'experienced hand', although 500 plus professional appearances put Jolley's Barnsley Boys career in the shade) if Fenty was determined to commit relegation suicide by appointing a new inexperienced young manager.

My preferred choice would have been an established older Football League manager with experience in relegation battles, finishing bottom of the Swedish Premier League especially as that is where he started does not qualify.

If Jolley keeps us up I will be the first to eat humble pie but my concerns will remain about how he is going to fare next season with his own new squad. Even more worrying if he is managing in the National League

Total sense Harsley was your preferred candidate if Fenty fancied a bit of relegation...because it would be better to be relegated under him than Jolley I presume.  We obviously need a steady older hand just like... Slade.

Chesterfield forum now scraping the bottom of the the barrel......

http://www.thecfss.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=61567&st=0

Quoted from Spireite1866

We know about the cost of the stadium, or the reported cost anyway.

The problem is the debt is reportedly not being reduced at all and we can't make ends meet.

The transfer fees we've supposedly received in the past few seasons for our level of football is staggering. Clucas was 1.2m then a further 1.6m as the sell on from his move to Swansea, Morsy 500k, Darikwa 500k, Doyle 750k, Cooper 600k.

Add to this we have staged two sell out concerts of Elton John and Tom Jones.

Of course we will still have debts on the stadium but there appears to be a black hole and it's taken millions from our club.

But isn't the stadium the major problem in the first place and/or is it the wage bill?

Quoted from promotion plaice

Chesterfield forum now scraping the bottom of the the barrel......

http://www.thecfss.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=61567&st=0

What you mean it echoes our situation?

Maybe we should do a joint protest like Orient and Blackpool did last season.

Quoted from Spireite1866

Spireite here in peace.

I'm not normally one to visit opposing teams message boards but due to the gravity of Saturday's fixture, curiosity got the better of me.

It seems there's a club in as much turmoil, both on and off the pitch, as my own.

Off the pitch, we've been riddled with scandal and are constantly being told our debt is rising and the current owner, who wants nothing more to do with us, is being forced into chucking cash in every month just to keep us in business. We're not quite sure what happened to the substantial transfer fees received for Darikwa ( to Burnley ), Morsy ( to Barnsley ), Clucas ( Hull for 1.2m then sell on received from his 16m move to Swansea ), Doyle ( to Cardiff ), Cooper ( to Leeds ) plus Paul Cook compo when he left for Pompey. Need I go on? Our club has been stripped and is on a cliffs edge.

On the pitch. Not much better really. Jack Lester is a club legend but he's taken on one hell of a task.

We are certainly a side capable of some lovely football and we've got, arguably, the best goalscorer in the division. Dennis has the thick end of 20 goals this term in a struggling side.
On the flip side, we have the softest underbelly and we've been bullied out of games time and time again this year.
Injuries have been a huge part of our demise this season but we've shown no heart or desire on far too many occasions and I fear this could be the case Saturday.

I honestly think we are the only side on Saturday that is capable of winning the game but I know far too well that we are more than capable of losing the game by rolling over.

I cannot wish you well for Saturday but I genuinely do not wish to see Grimsby leave the league. I'd much rather be playing yourselves than the likes of Forest Green, Crawley and Yeovil.

Unfortunately I think it's us or you.

Whatever happens I wish GTFC all the best moving forward with sorting their club out.

Yeah.  

Congratulations on most probably preserving your league status yesterday.

You can hopefully appreciate how bad we've had it aswell this season, we are absolutely awful on far too many occasions.

I stand by my initial thought that we were the only ones capable of winning the game during the first half. We created two or three very good chances and hats off to your keeper for the brilliant save denying Dennis towards the end of the first half.

Second half, however, we lost the game. We had no heart or desire, absolutely no quality and credit to your side for wanting it more and totally winning the second half.

I've not brought myself to look at the penalty decision again but from what I hear at our end, stone wall and no argument whatsoever.

It's not over but the fat lady is getting hydrated and warming herself up.

Best of luck going forward with sorting out your own ownership issues and hopefully we'll meet again soon. In the Football League.

On a side note, interesting take on the Family Stand at Blundell Park. They young uns are a bit lively!

[quote=140339]Congratulations on most probably preserving your league status yesterday.

You can hopefully appreciate how bad we've had it aswell this season, we are absolutely awful on far too many occasions.

I stand by my initial thought that we were the only ones capable of winning the game during the first half. We created two or three very good chances and hats off to your keeper for the brilliant save denying Dennis towards the end of the first half.

Second half, however, we lost the game. We had no heart or desire, absolutely no quality and credit to your side for wanting it more and totally winning the second half.Quote




It's not over for either of us yet,

A win against Barnet next week should make us safe,

You have some winnable games to come so you still have a chance,

I would like either Barnet Port Vale and FGR  go down,

In fact you could send Barnet down in your last game while we send FGR down in ours,

Now that would be a great end of a bad season for both of us.

Quoted from promotion plaice

Chesterfield forum now scraping the bottom of the the barrel......

http://www.thecfss.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=61567&st=0

Why are they scraping the bottom of the barrel, an old thread about the GTFC  fans forum then liking the twit of the week thread?

Quoted from Spireite1866

Congratulations on most probably preserving your league status yesterday.

You can hopefully appreciate how bad we've had it aswell this season, we are absolutely awful on far too many occasions.

I stand by my initial thought that we were the only ones capable of winning the game during the first half. We created two or three very good chances and hats off to your keeper for the brilliant save denying Dennis towards the end of the first half.

Second half, however, we lost the game. We had no heart or desire, absolutely no quality and credit to your side for wanting it more and totally winning the second half.

I've not brought myself to look at the penalty decision again but from what I hear at our end, stone wall and no argument whatsoever.

It's not over but the fat lady is getting hydrated and warming herself up.

Best of luck going forward with sorting out your own ownership issues and hopefully we'll meet again soon. In the Football League.

On a side note, interesting take on the Family Stand at Blundell Park. They young uns are a bit lively!

I have made the point a couple of times that it was two poor sides but at times I thought your team were really bad and some didn't look up for it.

Quoted from Spireite1866

Congratulations on most probably preserving your league status yesterday.

You can hopefully appreciate how bad we've had it aswell this season, we are absolutely awful on far too many occasions.

I stand by my initial thought that we were the only ones capable of winning the game during the first half. We created two or three very good chances and hats off to your keeper for the brilliant save denying Dennis towards the end of the first half.

Second half, however, we lost the game. We had no heart or desire, absolutely no quality and credit to your side for wanting it more and totally winning the second half.

I've not brought myself to look at the penalty decision again but from what I hear at our end, stone wall and no argument whatsoever.

It's not over but the fat lady is getting hydrated and warming herself up.

Best of luck going forward with sorting out your own ownership issues and hopefully we'll meet again soon. In the Football League.

On a side note, interesting take on the Family Stand at Blundell Park. They young uns are a bit lively!

When we went down to the conference there was quite a lot of Chesterfield fans howling and gloating that we dropped into non league as we were in some of your fans eyes a vile club with vile fans and then we got our league status back labelled us as tin pot. So for them I couldn't be more happier that if you do go down. On the flip side for genuine fans like yourself, I wouldn't wish non league on any club with league pedigree, non league gives you horrible groundings by sides with less fans than stewards and some highs with massive wins.

It does gives you a chance to rebuild but the desire has to be there and to take a hit of maybe a few seasons down there as it is horrendous to get out of, even with us being in a precarious position I would advocate a 3 up 3 down knowing how tough it is. One thing non league does have is hospitality is better than the league at most grounds and the clubs down there are followed by great fans, not glory hunters but people who cherish their local teams and you can only give them full respect to them for that especially if they have a premier league club near by as some of them do.

Best of Luck, I hope Barnet go down and you send FGR down, a truly horrible club top to bottom.

Can only echo the thoughts of others. In an ideal world, FGR and Barnet will go back to their natural habitat, but it's not an ideal world and football is cutthroat, as it should be. Still a lot of twists and turns to come with relegation threatened sides playing each other in six pointers. You still have hope yet and it could go to the last minute of the last game, as it did for Newport last year. We have given ourselves a good chance now but i'd be a lot happier if Chesterfield didn't have those games in hand. Our saving grace could be that we have beaten all the other sides at the bottom, yourselves twice. Who you beat is as important as winning at this stage.

Good luck Spireite.

Quoted from Marinerz93

When we went down to the conference there was quite a lot of Chesterfield fans howling and gloating that we dropped into non league as we were in some of your fans eyes a vile club with vile fans and then we got our league status back labelled us as tin pot. So for them I couldn't be more happier that if you do go down. On the flip side for genuine fans like yourself, I wouldn't wish non league on any club with league pedigree, non league gives you horrible groundings by sides with less fans than stewards and some highs with massive wins.

It does gives you a chance to rebuild but the desire has to be there and to take a hit of maybe a few seasons down there as it is horrendous to get out of, even with us being in a precarious position I would advocate a 3 up 3 down knowing how tough it is. One thing non league does have is hospitality is better than the league at most grounds and the clubs down there are followed by great fans, not glory hunters but people who cherish their local teams and you can only give them full respect to them for that especially if they have a premier league club near by as some of them do.

Best of Luck, I hope Barnet go down and you send FGR down, a truly horrible club top to bottom.

Agree with this, that is exactly how I felt wen we where in the Abyss, still some work for us to do I reckon to make sure we don't drop again.

The 3 up 3 down is interesting. In the past 2 up kind of made sense as many non league clubs probably didn't have the facilities, resource and infrastructure to stay up for any period of time e.g. he likes of Barnet and Dagenham, who i'll always see as non league big boys/yo-yo clubs .

Now though looking at The National League there are some long standing league clubs like Tranmere, Orient, Wrexham etc,, who could sustain being in the EFL as well as some non league clubs like Sutton & Borehamwood who have good sets ups and real potential to move forward, so maybe be the 3 up 3 down question needs to come back to the table? I doubt it will as it will need an EFL vote to agree it and "turkeys don't vote for Christmas".  


    

Quoted from Spireite1866

Congratulations on most probably preserving your league status yesterday.

You can hopefully appreciate how bad we've had it aswell this season, we are absolutely awful on far too many occasions.

I stand by my initial thought that we were the only ones capable of winning the game during the first half. We created two or three very good chances and hats off to your keeper for the brilliant save denying Dennis towards the end of the first half.

Second half, however, we lost the game. We had no heart or desire, absolutely no quality and credit to your side for wanting it more and totally winning the second half.

I've not brought myself to look at the penalty decision again but from what I hear at our end, stone wall and no argument whatsoever.

It's not over but the fat lady is getting hydrated and warming herself up.

Best of luck going forward with sorting out your own ownership issues and hopefully we'll meet again soon. In the Football League.

On a side note, interesting take on the Family Stand at Blundell Park. They young uns are a bit lively!

I'm not sure either side was capable of winning the game by scoring from open play, yes Macca made a good save in the first half but Hooper should have done better when he was one on one with your keeper. Clear chances where few and far between. I felt that both sides where poor in the final 3rd but I'm surprised that Dennis is not doing better for you as he has a bit of talent at this level.

We got a slice of luck after a moment of stupidity from your lad, quite easily the boot could have been on the other foot as it was a very tense game, your lads seemed to deal with nerves better in the 1st half than we did but our shape change after the break caught Jack out and he didn't really respond in any way.

Along with Barnet, FGR and Port Vale both of us look like poor in reality. We showed some steel yesterday but will still need a complete re-build in the summer.

IMHO I think we've still got a bit to do to be safe and we'll be nervous till it's mathematically sure. I hope things work out that FGR and Barnet go down. Barnet played Stevenage in a derby of sorts on Monday and took nothing like what you brought yesterday and FGR's numbers are embarrassing so in my mind you deserve better.  

Both clubs are struggling on the pitch.  No coincidence then that the ownership and running of both clubs are in turmoil.  A fish rots from the head first.

Kind words, very much appreciated. And I'd like to place on record that I was most definitely not one of those gloating when you left the league. Nor when it happened to Mansfield, Lincoln, York, Hartlepool, Tranmere and so on.

The disappointing thing yesterday was the lack of fight from us. We know the quality isn't there but on a day like yesterday, there can be no excuse for not rolling up sleeves and getting dirty.

Louis Reed ( our no. 25 ) is probably the best footballer on the pitch yesterday. If we actually hold one, he's favourite for POTY. Considering he's a loan player and we've got a contracted player whose scored almost 20 goals this term shows how good he's been for us. Not yesterday, though. He was garbage, didn't want it one bit.

Dennis looked slow, unfit and barely interested. Very good effort with his weak right foot that your keeper pulled off a very fine save in the first half but other than that, garbage.

Lester bought on McCourt in the second half to try and add some support in a midfield that we were struggling to come second in. McCourt is renowned as being a hard nut tackler but I lost count of how many times he neshed a big challenge in the middle of the park. Your midfield wanted it, ours didn't.

I was there yesterday with my old man and my son. I've followed my club for 30 years, my old man 55 years and my son 4 years. All three of us came away experiencing the same thing for the first time. Our proud club surrendering without a fight. That is most definitely not acceptable.

It's not over, no. But I fear the lack of fight is what will ultimately see us enter the non league abyss.

However, it's a funny old game.

Quoted from Spireite1866

Kind words, very much appreciated. And I'd like to place on record that I was most definitely not one of those gloating when you left the league. Nor when it happened to Mansfield, Lincoln, York, Hartlepool, Tranmere and so on.

The disappointing thing yesterday was the lack of fight from us. We know the quality isn't there but on a day like yesterday, there can be no excuse for not rolling up sleeves and getting dirty.

Louis Reed ( our no. 25 ) is probably the best footballer on the pitch yesterday. If we actually hold one, he's favourite for POTY. Considering he's a loan player and we've got a contracted player whose scored almost 20 goals this term shows how good he's been for us. Not yesterday, though. He was garbage, didn't want it one bit.

Dennis looked slow, unfit and barely interested. Very good effort with his weak right foot that your keeper pulled off a very fine save in the first half but other than that, garbage.

Lester bought on McCourt in the second half to try and add some support in a midfield that we were struggling to come second in. McCourt is renowned as being a hard nut tackler but I lost count of how many times he neshed a big challenge in the middle of the park. Your midfield wanted it, ours didn't.

I was there yesterday with my old man and my son. I've followed my club for 30 years, my old man 55 years and my son 4 years. All three of us came away experiencing the same thing for the first time. Our proud club surrendering without a fight. That is most definitely not acceptable.

It's not over, no. But I fear the lack of fight is what will ultimately see us enter the non league abyss.

However, it's a funny old game.

I'll add to the hopes that we can both get out of it, however don't think we will, think one of us is going, also don't think it's over and done with yet. Hope you get a boardroom change soon.

Hay, Spireite, we know exactly what you're going through. We've been through it once before and we have been experiencing the same thing. Nowt else I can really say, but I hope it's not us through the trapdoor this time. The ladder back up is very narrow and there's some pushy people with sharp elbows down there.

Quoted from Spireite1866

Kind words, very much appreciated. And I'd like to place on record that I was most definitely not one of those gloating when you left the league. Nor when it happened to Mansfield, Lincoln, York, Hartlepool, Tranmere and so on.

The disappointing thing yesterday was the lack of fight from us. We know the quality isn't there but on a day like yesterday, there can be no excuse for not rolling up sleeves and getting dirty.

Louis Reed ( our no. 25 ) is probably the best footballer on the pitch yesterday. If we actually hold one, he's favourite for POTY. Considering he's a loan player and we've got a contracted player whose scored almost 20 goals this term shows how good he's been for us. Not yesterday, though. He was garbage, didn't want it one bit.

Dennis looked slow, unfit and barely interested. Very good effort with his weak right foot that your keeper pulled off a very fine save in the first half but other than that, garbage.

Lester bought on McCourt in the second half to try and add some support in a midfield that we were struggling to come second in. McCourt is renowned as being a hard nut tackler but I lost count of how many times he neshed a big challenge in the middle of the park. Your midfield wanted it, ours didn't.

I was there yesterday with my old man and my son. I've followed my club for 30 years, my old man 55 years and my son 4 years. All three of us came away experiencing the same thing for the first time. Our proud club surrendering without a fight. That is most definitely not acceptable.

It's not over, no. But I fear the lack of fight is what will ultimately see us enter the non league abyss.

However, it's a funny old game.

I do hope you stay up mate and it's FGR and Barnet that go down. If you like visiting new grounds though then I did 17 new ones in our first season down there so that's one small crumb of comfort maybe!  

Good on  Spireite1866 ....proper supporter.......I hope we both stay up.

What year was it that we was the only team to beat them at home........ twice.....I went to the cup game.

Quoted from promotion plaice

Good on  Spireite1866 ....proper supporter.......I hope we both stay up.

What year was it that we was the only team to beat them at home........ twice.....I went to the cup game.

1979/80 season, we beat them 3-2 twice, firstly in an FA Cup Replay and then in the league a couple of months later. Not quite sure which win it was but the 3 Kevin's (Drinkell, Moore and Kilmore) scored in one of the games, We went on to lose at Liverpool in the FA Cup 3rd Round and won the Old 3rd Division. 38 years ago and still our last Championship win!

In the FA Cup game we were losing 2-1 at 90 minutes but scored 2 injury time goals to win, The Chesterfield tannoy were announcing details of ticket sales for the next round game against Sheffield United during a late break in play.

Quoted from Les Brechin

1979/80 season, we beat them 3-2 twice, firstly in an FA Cup Replay and then in the league a couple of months later. Not quite sure which win it was but the 3 Kevin's (Drinkell, Moore and Kilmore) scored in one of the games, We went on to lose at Liverpool in the FA Cup 3rd Round and won the Old 3rd Division. 38 years ago and still our last Championship win!

In the FA Cup game we were losing 2-1 at 90 minutes but scored 2 injury time goals to win, The Chesterfield tannoy were announcing details of ticket sales for the next round game against Sheffield United during a late break in play.

The League game was one of the best performances of a great season. They were up there in the league table but we blew them away to go 3-0 up before Kev Moore (R.I.P.) got harshly sent off. It was backs to the wall stuff then but Town held out. I think that was the first time I thought we could win the league that year.

Quoted from barralad

The League game was one of the best performances of a great season. They were up there in the league table but we blew them away to go 3-0 up before Kev Moore (R.I.P.) got harshly sent off. It was backs to the wall stuff then but Town held out. I think that was the first time I thought we could win the league that year.

We both had really good sides that season. Arthur Cox was managing Chesterfield I think.

I was there and can remember a certain Ernie moss having a great game for them

Quoted from barralad

The League game was one of the best performances of a great season. They were up there in the league table but we blew them away to go 3-0 up before Kev Moore (R.I.P.) got harshly sent off. It was backs to the wall stuff then but Town held out. I think that was the first time I thought we could win the league that year.

Wasn’t that where we noticed and ultimately signed Phil Bonnyman?

They also had Alan Birch who was half decent if memory serves me right and the pair of them made a really good partnership.

Rumour has it that when Phil signed for us Birch was in the car outside BP waiting to come in afterwards and sign but for some reason backed out, the pair of them would have worked well for us.

Nice to hear from you spireite .always good to have sensible other pov s on the board.but don't be taken in by the kind words.non league is shiite.total and utter shiite.I felt embarrassed for being down there.the minuses make up a pages long list whilst the positives are actually embarrassing .warm friendly welcomes from teams that you never even realised existed, players that are so bad that you applaud it they produce an accurate cross or pass, the coverage on bt sports at times of days when no other footie is played in front of a couple of hundred people and the  crowning glory that is the fa trophy. You will hate it with a passion as we soon learnt to do.but whatever you do don't underestimate it. You have to live and feed in the swamp before you can escape it. Good luck

I have to slightly disagree with forza.. Yes it's not nice to be non league but your comments are a tad harsh. There's a lot of ex league clubs and half decent size clubs down there now, not to mention clubs on the rise. Admittedly I'd rather not end up back their but like previous people have posted at least the clubs where more welcoming and enjoyed our big followings.

Non league is excrement really really excrement at that , anyone says different is talking bollox

I enjoyed most of our seasons in non league, and our team in non league, more than I have this one in league 2. It's not so bad.

Non-league is very very excrement

March 24th 2018 we played away at Coventry in front of 8755 fans

March 24th 2015 we played away at Dover in front of 911 fans

Quoted from Dan

I enjoyed most of our seasons in non league, and our team in non league, more than I have this one in league 2. It's not so bad.

If non-league was so good, can I ask how many games in the six years gave you the same buzz as Saturday?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

If non-league was so good, can I ask how many games in the six years gave you the same buzz as Saturday?

Scunny and Huddersfield in the cup, and Wembley for me. That's it.

I hated non league with a passion.

I think there are some rose tinted spectacles going on here. Non league was garbage.

The first two seasons were truly god awful, I much prefer this season to Kempson, Ridley, Rob Duffey years -at least we are losing to proper footballing teams at the moment rather than losing say 5-0 to Braintree.

Our middle two seasons were made up of early promise before we played awfully towards the end of the season, before been justifiably spanked by Newport and then screwed by the Ref at Gateshead.

Our fifth season was our best season but we were Joyced. Our promotion season was great up until January then we were abysmal until the away leg at Braintree.

We probably had in total about 1 and half good seasons in non league.

Yes I prefer the likes of Disley, Tait, Arnold, Pearson, Omar and Podge to the present bunch but I much prefer the likes of Groves, Gilbert, Mendonca, Macca, Lever, Donovan, Futcher etc to Disley et al. If were going to get back to those heady days we need to stay up. Going down would be an utter catastrophe.

Quoted from ginnywings

Scunny and Huddersfield in the cup, and Wembley for me. That's it.

I hated non league with a passion.

That's about it for me too. Cup games against league opposition and the euphoric day that I hoped we'd put non-league behind us.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

If non-league was so good, can I ask how many games in the six years gave you the same buzz as Saturday?

I only got the buzz in the last 5 minutes, the rest of it I thought oh excrement here we go again, never looked like scoring and the same old crap for the last 20 games.

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

Non league is excrement really really excrement at that , anyone says different is talking bollox

In that case Chesterfield and / or us should urine it and get back first time then

Non League is hell for a fan of a long standing football league club like a Grimsby or Chesterfield.Yes you get the odd insight into such genuine people who love their Club they are Chairman and car park attendant (Braintree FC) that gives you a warm glow.However you then get less than double figures for away fans attending fixtures at your ground or a Play off semi final versus in our case I think 4 of and not one set of away supporters could muster even 400 and you realise you shouldn't flipping be here it`s truly soul destroying.Non League suits FGR I wouldn`t be bothered about them they have had a taste of the league and that will do them .Barnet have been around now for a while in League 2 and I have no gripe with them but I would rather they went than a Chesterfield or Port Vale personally.Then the other side of me says no let them have a taste of non league we had to suffer.Lincoln and Tranmere much like Grimsby and Luton before them made a lot of noise about bouncing straight back and in all those cases the fans were wrong.You get nothing given no favours and god awful referees etc and when you see what happened to York,Darlo,Stockport and however many more you realise it`s a very dangerous trap.I wish you goodluck in your fight for survival as long as it`s not at Grimsby Towns expense we have done our time.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

If non-league was so good, can I ask how many games in the six years gave you the same buzz as Saturday?

Welling 0 - 4 Grimsby

9th Jan 2016    

Quoted from Dan

Welling 0 - 4 Grimsby

9th Jan 2016    

There were quite a few individual games that were really enjoyable but that is likely to be the case if you're winning and taking a large, noisy following. However, the lows were really low and it was awful watching us draw at home to Guiseley with their 12 fan following or having Gateshead believe they had some bizarre rivalry with us.

Quoted from ginnywings

Scunny and Huddersfield in the cup, and Wembley for me. That's it.

I hated non league with a passion.

Even those cup games made me embarrassed when I thought the national commentators were saying "non league Grimsby are giving it a go against...."

I hated speaking about football when outside of Grimsby it was so embarrassing. League football means everything to me.

The only really enjoyable day for me was the Wembley triumph and that was obviously because we got back.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Even those cup games made me embarrassed when I thought the national commentators were saying "non league Grimsby are giving it a go against...."

I hated speaking about football when outside of Grimsby it was so embarrassing. League football means everything to me.

The only really enjoyable day for me was the Wembley triumph and that was obviously because we got back.

agree totally - plus those times when you met up with old mates and they asked how town were getting on, and then the killer question 'what division are they in now?'  
then there were the really, really krap players we had to put up with. remember anthony straker who lacked even the basic ability to cross a ball, despite being played as a wide player? just embarrassing and soul destroying

2 minutes into the Bristol Rovers final was another time when I had that buzz!

Interesting read in the local paper

Chants of ‘you’re not fit to wear the shirt’ were aimed at the blue shirted losing side and the small number of players who did approach the away end were met with fury, only a small number of the faithful choosing to applaud. Whilst Chesterfield might not have deserved to lose this, their most important game, they didn’t do enough to win it – as has been the case in too many matches going back too long. The effort might not have been in question, but the application certainly was.


If you can’t beat a 10-man Vale who haven’t won in 2018, or score a goal against a Grimsby in apparent terminal decline, something is going wrong somewhere. The post-game debate was underway within a couple of minutes, Lester’s tactics and substitutions coming under fire, calls for the club legend’s departure creeping into the discussion for the first time. The warmest day of the year was a dark one for Chesterfield Football Club, its rookie manager and the huge travelling army. Its consequences won’t be known for a week or two but there could be even darker days ahead.

Read more at: https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.....to-grimsby-1-9105260

Sounds all too familiar for comfort.

When you consider that their last three away games have been against Port Vale , us and Morcombe, and have yielded just a single point, it's not looking good for their remaining fixtures.

They did well to come from behind against Morcombe that was real guttsy but to be honest only our performances matter now.

Quoted from Ipswin

I will certainly give Jolley every credit imaginable if we stay up (but surely that is why he was employed.) In fact I'll be flipping amazed as well as delighted to eat humble pie.

But if we don't I won't excuse his failure to keep us up by blaming Slade, Fenty (hopefully) appointed him to avoid relegation A more experienced 'relegation-fighter' might have been a better choice and yes, in that respect I will say 'I told you so' because I have advocated a more experienced hand from the start

This has aged well.

Is he going to welch on the deal like Johnnie? At least eating humble pie is not as unpleasant as ticking a hot dog where the Sun doesn't shine