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MuddyWaters
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If it's survival by the skin of our teeth or relegation with a whimper, the GTFC board should never set foot in the ground again. What they have done to the club in the last six months (Bra-gate, Chuckuptrade, Forum, Slade, keeping Wilkinson, getting rid of alleged high earners etc.) is effectively football suicide. No-one in their right mind will buy a season ticket with this lot in charge.
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A case in point. I never realised you felt such a way, you've not brought it up before.
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Absolutely agree with you. Was hoping we’d have safety tied up so people could protest.
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How can anyone red cross that don't tell me some people STILL support Fenty?
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How can anyone red cross that don't tell me some people STILL support Fenty?


Up to them. Frankly, how anyone can find any positive action that the board have been involved with this season is beyond me.
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How can anyone red cross that don't tell me some people STILL support Fenty?


Its a forum,people have opinions.
Look back at the protest.
That gives you an idea of support-no other action has even been taken.





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Boardroom and Fenty should go, intercourse your benign debt, and I hope your snooker table gets a wonky leg.


Supporting the Mighty Mariners for over 30 years, home town club is were the heart and soul is and it's great to be a part of it.

Jesus’ disciple Peter, picked up a fish to get the tribute money from it, Jesus left his thumb print on the fish, bless'ed is the Haddock.
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Boardroom and Fenty should go, intercourse your benign debt, and I hope your snooker table gets a wonky leg.


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Its a forum,people have opinions.
Look back at the protest.
That gives you an idea of support-no other action has even been taken.



Frankly I'm amazed but I'd love to hear what sort of arguments could be made to support the current regime. As you say its a forum let's hear from those alternative views.
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Frankly I'm amazed but I'd love to hear what sort of arguments could be made to support the current regime. As you say its a forum let's hear from those alternative views.



Good luck with that.
The majority have and will in the future turn up and back the team.



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Frankly I'm amazed but I'd love to hear what sort of arguments could be made to support the current regime. As you say its a forum let's hear from those alternative views.


I think most reasonable people wouldn’t support it. But you have members of JF’s family and inner circle on here and of course the odd troll. I do have a wry smile when people react to a cross from some faceless person.  Sometimes  it is clearly a troll. Others it’s just someone who may not agree with that particular post. But it really shouldn’t be anything to worry about.  


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She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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Good luck with that.
The majority have and will in the future turn up and back the team.


Whats backing the team got to do with supporting or questioning the decisions made by the clubs owner? Yes people rightly turn up to support the team does that mean they support or question the owners - I don't see the link.
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April 2, 2018, 6:12pm
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Its a forum,people have opinions.
Look back at the protest.
That gives you an idea of support-no other action has even been taken.




If we are talking about numbers involved you may be right but I am pretty sure there are hundreds, if not thousands, like myself who attend and have steadfastly tried to support the team who were in partial if not complete agreement with the reasons behind the process.

Should we go down, and I expect we will, it us silent ones that will support those protesters and walk away at the end of this season and some will never be seen again. I am one of four season ticket holders who sit together and should we go down the only way we will be attending is if Fenty has left the club.

Should we by some miracle stay up it is going to be very difficult to persuade any one of us to buy a season ticket should JF remain in charge. The outcome of this season has to be a change at board level as an absolute minimum.

No way am I going to ruin any more Saturday evenings for my family sulking after our results not fair on them nor my health.
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I think most reasonable people wouldn’t support it. But you have members of JF’s family and inner circle on here and of course the odd troll. I do have a wry smile when people react to a cross from some faceless person.  Sometimes  it is clearly a troll. Others it’s just someone who may not agree with that particular post. But it really shouldn’t be anything to worry about.  


Fair point Civiy i don't usually pay any attention,  to the crosses or the over reactions that often go on here but sometimes you look at something and just think WTF.
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Whats backing the team got to do with supporting or questioning the decisions made by the clubs owner? Yes people rightly turn up to support the team does that mean they support or questioni the owners - I don't see the link.


Actually the majority of supporters who attend do support the board-if they don't why haven't they taken direct action ie not renewing ST's,reduction in away support etc,demonstrations etc.



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If we are talking about numbers involved you may be right but I am pretty sure there are hundreds, if not thousands, like myself who attend and have steadfastly tried to support the team who were in partial if not complete agreement with the reasons behind the process.

Should we go down, and I expect we will, it us silent ones that will support those protesters and walk away at the end of this season and some will never be seen again. I am one of four season ticket holders who sit together and should we go down the only way we will be attending is if Fenty has left the club.

Should we by some miracle stay up it is going to be very difficult to persuade any one of us to buy a season ticket should JF remain in charge. The outcome of this season has to be a change at board level as an absolute minimum.

No way am I going to ruin any more Saturday evenings for my family sulking after our results not fair on them nor my health.


Good post.
This is what is required to enforce a change in the future.




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Actually the majority of supporters who attend do support the board-if they don't why haven't they taken direct action ie not renewing ST's,reduction in away support etc,demonstrations etc.


That is to come. Right now, fans are trying to stick with the team and get them over the line. I am still attending but i don't support the board, and certainly won't after this season.
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You’re a deluded fool stadium. And i dont say that because i completely disagree with you. But most fans should tosn go down will not be back to support this club. A club ruined by the arrogance and greed of one man
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Actually the majority of supporters who attend do support the board-if they don't why haven't they taken direct action ie not renewing ST's,reduction in away support etc,demonstrations etc.


That’s balderdash. I’m a season ticket holder have been for years and I haven’t an ounce of support for this board and haven’t for at least 10 years.

Many of the people I sit with can’t stand the board, like me they just don’t want to stop going. The board are a total car crash of cloth eared dinsosaurs that have continually proven how unfit they are to run our club.
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You’re a deluded fool stadium. And i dont say that because i completely disagree with you. But most fans should tosn go down will not be back to support this club. A club ruined by the arrogance and greed of one man


It’s what the board actually thinks. They think it’s a small minority who are anti them. They think every one who goes through the gate is a happyclapper with blind loyalty. I’ve heard it with my own ears.

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It’s what the board actually thinks. They think it’s a small minority who are anti them. They think every one who goes through the gate is a happyclapper with blind loyalty. I’ve heard it with my own ears.



I think they will really get a shock come the end of the season.
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That’s balderdash. I’m a season ticket holder have been for years and I haven’t an ounce of support for this board and haven’t for at least 10 years.

Many of the people I sit with can’t stand the board, like me they just don’t want to stop going. The board are a total car crash of cloth eared dinsosaurs that have continually proven how unfit they are to run our club.


And there we  have it.....



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I think they will really get a shock come the end of the season.


Let's hope so.



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It’s what the board actually thinks. They think it’s a small minority who are anti them. They think every one who goes through the gate is a happyclapper with blind loyalty. I’ve heard it with my own ears.



Which is why the only way to get rid of Fenty is to stop attending, as sad as that will be.
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Is there a buyer for the club in the wings who can do a better job that i don't know about? I believe the owner has had some serious errors of judgement in his selection of the last manager but if resigns where does a replacement come from?


                           
                        

               
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And there we  have it.....


There we have what?

People can support the club but not the regime. People have been fed that much bullshit about their being no alternative to Fenty that quite a few believe it. Now many are starting to they’d rather take their chances without him.

Are you a Fenty fan?
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Is there a buyer for the club in the wings who can do a better job that i don't know about? I believe the owner has had some serious errors of judgement in his selection of the last manager but if resigns where does a replacement come from?


If the board resigned (and left) and the loans were written off I believe plenty of people would step forward. They may not have the money of a JF, but people would step forward.
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Is there a buyer for the club in the wings who can do a better job that i don't know about? I believe the owner has had some serious errors of judgement in his selection of the last manager but if resigns where does a replacement come from?


He's done far more wrong than just that  
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If the board resigned (and left) and the loans were written off I believe plenty of people would step forward. They may not have the money of a JF, but people would step forward.


I don't disagree but what we need is people with real expertise and experience replacing the current "gang of 4" is not a job for enthusiastic amateurs.



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I don't disagree but what we need is people with real expertise and experience replacing the current "gang of 4" is not a job for enthusiastic amateurs.



I’m pretty sure you’d get that.
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Good luck with that.
The majority have and will in the future turn up and back the team.


I think Mr Fenty could be in for a shock next season.





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There we have what?

People can support the club but not the regime. People have been fed that much bullshit about their being no alternative to Fenty that quite a few believe it. Now many are starting to they’d rather take their chances without him.

Are you a Fenty fan?


So how do you propose a regime change?
Ideas please...
Refer to post 21.



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If the board resigned (and left) and the loans were written off I believe plenty of people would step forward. They may not have the money of a JF, but people would step forward.


100% agree. The fans should be pushing for the loans to be written off and the board to walk away.
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I don't disagree but what we need is people with real expertise and experience replacing the current "gang of 4" is not a job for enthusiastic amateurs.



I talk to an 'enthusiastic amateur' on Newport's board on a regular basis - I know you can't replace money but enthusiasm, commitment and a love for a football club are doing a pretty reasonable job down there.
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I talk to an 'enthusiastic amateur' on Newport's board on a regular basis - I know you can't replace money but enthusiasm, commitment and a love for a football club are doing a pretty reasonable job down there.


Doing an ok job at Wycombe too...


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I talk to an 'enthusiastic amateur' on Newport's board on a regular basis - I know you can't replace money but enthusiasm, commitment and a love for a football club are doing a pretty reasonable job down there.


You never mentioned it

I actually agree with you. Most Directors are 'amateurs' in that they don't have a football background but what we could have are a few local guys who have some experience in PR, running a business that knows how to sell it wares rather than a fish merchant and a couple of blokes whose customers come to them.

If JSF wrote of his loans and a consortium could buy out his shares they would have my total support. As it stands whatever division we are in next season I've had enough after 50+ years attending BP. I will not renew my season ticket if Fenty is still involved
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So how do you propose a regime change?
Ideas please...
Refer to post 21.


My proposal would be that John Fenty accept he's made an almighty clusterfuck (good choice of word whoever suggested it yesterday) and walks away. If he had any dignity he'd accept that he's not getting the money back for his loans and that ultimately he has cost the club far more over the years anyway so why should he? He claims he loves the club but if he really did he'd forget about his money because it's been dragging the club down for well over a decade now and sometimes you have to bite the bullet, accept you've made mistakes and pay the price.

We don't know who is out there who might be interested in running the club but I'd take a board of enthusiastic amateurs any day over a board of dinosaurs who have proven unequivocally that they are unable and unfit to run this once great football club. One thing is for sure and that is that nobody wants to work with Fenty and nobody can whilst he's holding all the cards. And nobody is willing to pay back Fenty's loans for a club that he has mismanaged for 14 years so that it's in the worst shape it has ever been in.

Like I said the other day, this is all hypothetical because for somebody to walk away like Fenty should would require them to have some humility and dignity. Instead he's a control freak who has a narcissistic personality disorder. The only way we'll get rid of him is to stay away from matches and sadly that will also damage the club further. Keep supporting the team this season as they need us but long term we need a regime change because it cannot go on like this any longer.
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I talk to an 'enthusiastic amateur' on Newport's board on a regular basis - I know you can't replace money but enthusiasm, commitment and a love for a football club are doing a pretty reasonable job down there.


Who mentioned money? I just said experience and expertise. Sorting the fcuk up Fenty, Marley, Day and the invisible race horse trainer have caused will be a full time job for a very long time.



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My proposal would be that John Fenty accept he's made an almighty clusterfuck (good choice of word whoever suggested it yesterday) and walks away. If he had any dignity he'd accept that he's not getting the money back for his loans and that ultimately he has cost the club far more over the years anyway so why should he? He claims he loves the club but if he really did he'd forget about his money because it's been dragging the club down for well over a decade now and sometimes you have to bite the bullet, accept you've made mistakes and pay the price.

We don't know who is out there who might be interested in running the club but I'd take a board of enthusiastic amateurs any day over a board of dinosaurs who have proven unequivocally that they are unable and unfit to run this once great football club. One thing is for sure and that is that nobody wants to work with Fenty and nobody can whilst he's holding all the cards. And nobody is willing to pay back Fenty's loans for a club that he has mismanaged for 14 years so that it's in the worst shape it has ever been in.

Like I said the other day, this is all hypothetical because for somebody to walk away like Fenty should would require them to have some humility and dignity. Instead he's a control freak who has a narcissistic personality disorder. The only way we'll get rid of him is to stay away from matches and sadly that will also damage the club further. Keep supporting the team this season as they need us but long term we need a regime change because it cannot go on like this any longer.


Great post...


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My proposal would be that John Fenty accept he's made an almighty clusterfuck (good choice of word whoever suggested it yesterday) and walks away. If he had any dignity he'd accept that he's not getting the money back for his loans and that ultimately he has cost the club far more over the years anyway so why should he? He claims he loves the club but if he really did he'd forget about his money because it's been dragging the club down for well over a decade now and sometimes you have to bite the bullet, accept you've made mistakes and pay the price.

We don't know who is out there who might be interested in running the club but I'd take a board of enthusiastic amateurs any day over a board of dinosaurs who have proven unequivocally that they are unable and unfit to run this once great football club. One thing is for sure and that is that nobody wants to work with Fenty and nobody can whilst he's holding all the cards. And nobody is willing to pay back Fenty's loans for a club that he has mismanaged for 14 years so that it's in the worst shape it has ever been in.

Like I said the other day, this is all hypothetical because for somebody to walk away like Fenty should would require them to have some humility and dignity. Instead he's a control freak who has a narcissistic personality disorder. The only way we'll get rid of him is to stay away from matches and sadly that will also damage the club further. Keep supporting the team this season as they need us but long term we need a regime change because it cannot go on like this any longer.


Two things spring to mind,

1. He has more chance of actually getting money back if he left, the fresh energy of new leadership would drive more income.

2. In reality this club is not and investment opportunity as the ROI opportunity is low so some kind of supporters board thing might be the only way.

Lets hope it's soon as if we go down with the current board in place it will be curtains for the club as we know it.  




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My proposal would be that John Fenty accept he's made an almighty clusterfuck (good choice of word whoever suggested it yesterday) and walks away. If he had any dignity he'd accept that he's not getting the money back for his loans and that ultimately he has cost the club far more over the years anyway so why should he? He claims he loves the club but if he really did he'd forget about his money because it's been dragging the club down for well over a decade now and sometimes you have to bite the bullet, accept you've made mistakes and pay the price.

We don't know who is out there who might be interested in running the club but I'd take a board of enthusiastic amateurs any day over a board of dinosaurs who have proven unequivocally that they are unable and unfit to run this once great football club. One thing is for sure and that is that nobody wants to work with Fenty and nobody can whilst he's holding all the cards. And nobody is willing to pay back Fenty's loans for a club that he has mismanaged for 14 years so that it's in the worst shape it has ever been in.

Like I said the other day, this is all hypothetical because for somebody to walk away like Fenty should would require them to have some humility and dignity. Instead he's a control freak who has a narcissistic personality disorder. The only way we'll get rid of him is to stay away from matches and sadly that will also damage the club further. Keep supporting the team this season as they need us but long term we need a regime change because it cannot go on like this any longer.


That should be post of the week. He should recognise that his presence is going to keep people away and leave in the best interests of the club. Writing his loans off is a must, any hope or thought that he deserves them back is surely gone.
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To be honest, if I was able to, I would have given up on Town 8 years ago, after the first relegation.
As miserable as things are, I don't think I could do it if I tried.
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My other thought was in reality what does JF actually do on a day to day basis at the club? He certainly isn't sweeping the stands and painting the dressing rooms?.



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How can anyone red cross that don't tell me some people STILL support Fenty?


Yes there are.
Thay are along with his massive ego why Fenty won't admit what he's done to our club and do the honourable thing and intercourse off.


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Good luck with that.
The majority have and will in the future turn up and back the team.


Give your head a wobble.
If we go down I doubt if STs reach 500 if we stay up and Fenty hasn't copulated of I doubt it would be much more than that.
Some people just can't see what's in front of em 😞


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Give your head a wobble.
If we go down I doubt if STs reach 500 if we stay up and Fenty hasn't copulated of I doubt it would be much more than that.
Some people just can't see what's in front of em 😞


I can see exactly what's in front.
Like other posters have stated including myself the only way JF will leave if people vote with their feet and demonstrate.
Unfortunately I can't see that happening enough to influence his departure.
500 really???
How many St's were sold last time we dropped down?



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Give your head a wobble.
If we go down I doubt if STs reach 500 if we stay up and Fenty hasn't copulated of I doubt it would be much more than that.
Some people just can't see what's in front of em 😞


And let's be honest although it would hurt the team and give jolley even more problem s we all know that it is the only course of action which will affect fenty and the board. I did suggest before that there should be a petition from season ticket holders which will say that they would only renew season tickets if the board stepped down
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And let's be honest although it would hurt the team and give jolley even more problem s we all know that it is the this course of action which will affect fenty and the board. I did suggest before that there should be a petition from season ticket holders which will say that they would only renew season tickets if the board stepped down


Good idea.
More the merrier.



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And let's be honest although it would hurt the team and give jolley even more problem s we all know that it is the only course of action which will affect fenty and the board. I did suggest before that there should be a petition from season ticket holders which will say that they would only renew season tickets if the board stepped down


Bring it on - put my name ( I buy 3 season tickets) at the top of the list.
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I can see exactly what's in front.
Like other posters have stated including myself the only way JF will leave if people vote with their feet and demonstrate.
Unfortunately I can't see that happening enough to influence his departure.
500 really???
How many St's were sold last time we dropped down?


That was then.
Because Fenty is taking us that way again he will not be forgiven and people are just drunk off with everything that has gone on with our club over the Fenty years.

No way will I buy a ST next season(same with all the gang I go with) league or non league if Fentys still there or has any say in what goes on at BP.

If we go down I will watch my non league footy elsewhere.
I will buy a ST at Clee Town £100
I would rather watch local lads giving it there all rather than wages thief journeyman at BP.

This is what Fenty has done to a bloke who has supported Town since 1969


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Bring it on - put my name ( I buy 3 season tickets) at the top of the list.


Get it started then.you'd have to arrange for someone to be in theblundell park hotel for example to start taking names addresses and season ticket numbers or an address to which they could send their details and signature.publicise here,Facebook twitter instagram cod almighty Grimsby telegraph website et c
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That was then.
Because Fenty is taking us that way again he will not be forgiven and people are just drunk off with everything that has gone on with our club over the Fenty years.

No way will I buy a ST next season(same with all the gang I go with) league or non league if Fentys still there or has any say in what goes on at BP.

If we go down I will watch my non league footy elsewhere.
I will buy a ST at Clee Town £100
I would rather watch local lads giving it there all rather than wages thief journeyman at BP.

This is what Fenty has done to a bloke who has supported Town since 1969


Respect your point of view,good explanation.




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Get it started then.you'd have to arrange for someone to be in theblundell park hotel for example to start taking names addresses and season ticket numbers or an address to which they could send their details and signature.publicise here,Facebook twitter instagram cod almighty Grimsby telegraph website et c


If we can get something going I will do the Cons Club.
I know most in there won't be buying a ST next season.


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Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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If we can get something going I will do the Cons Club.
I know most in there won't be buying a ST next season.


Don't wait for anyone else.get doing it on Saturday.if anyone on here wants to sign the petition they can pm you.you give them your address and they drop you a letter or email with their details confirming that they won't be renewing
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May I suggest a peaceful protest ?

Buy a seat in front of Fenty and wave a big flag to obscure his view,

If he tries to deconstruct it then you may forget about being peaceful.


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The problem is that even though I can see ST sales plummeting down to around 1k if we go down, the loss in income will have less of an impact due to the EFL parachute payment and still provide JF with one of the largest budgets to play with in the Conference.He'll plough on regardless unless there's active demonstrations that really hit home. He really didn't like "Fenty Out" being painted at Ramsdens did he? Protests and demonstrations of course will be diluted if our fate is decided on the last day at FGR due to the away end capacity. Our fate sealed in our last home game versus Notts County could be the tinder box when things really get nasty.

How do you get through to someone who is surrounded by sycophants? How do you get through to someone who is on record as calling the fans ordinary people? Does that mean he thinks he's extraordinary? As Bax stated earlier in this thread, because fans are still going to support the team, he thinks they're supporting him and the board. If a post on here criticising him only gets thirty ticks, he thinks that is the extent of the support for him to go. We hear the vocal minority line time and time again. I've never known someone so arrogant about something he's no good at, and it's a crying shame because he's selfishly manufactured a position where he's got my club by the short and curlies. Not because it's fair and equitable, he did it because he could.

If it all goes titts up, it will have to be something spectacular to unsettle him in his ivory tower and it will need everyone to get involved in some way..


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The problem is that even though I can see ST sales plummeting down to around 1k if we go down, the loss in income will have less of an impact due to the EFL parachute payment and still provide JF with one of the largest budgets to play with in the Conference.He'll plough on regardless unless there's active demonstrations that really hit home. He really didn't like "Fenty Out" being painted at Ramsdens did he? Protests and demonstrations of course will be diluted if our fate is decided on the last day at FGR due to the away end capacity. Our fate sealed in our last home game versus Notts County could be the tinder box when things really get nasty.

How do you get through to someone who is surrounded by sycophants? How do you get through to someone who is on record as calling the fans ordinary people? Does that mean he thinks he's extraordinary? As Bax stated earlier in this thread, because fans are still going to support the team, he thinks they're supporting him and the board. If a post on here criticising him only gets thirty ticks, he thinks that is the extent of the support for him to go. We hear the vocal minority line time and time again. I've never known someone so arrogant about something he's no good at, and it's a crying shame because he's selfishly manufactured a position where he's got my club by the short and curlies. Not because it's fair and equitable, he did it because he could.

If it all goes titts up, it will have to be something spectacular to unsettle him in his ivory tower and it will need everyone to get involved in some way..

#supporttheteamnottheregime



To  be honest Bigdog, I've got a feeling the tinder box will be earlier if we lose to Chesterfield next week and things at BP might get ugly.  

People have just had enough of his tenure and if the feeling on this board is an accurate gauge then losing next week could see all of Fenty's decisions coming home to roost.
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My proposal would be that John Fenty accept he's made an almighty clusterfuck (good choice of word whoever suggested it yesterday) and walks away. If he had any dignity he'd accept that he's not getting the money back for his loans and that ultimately he has cost the club far more over the years anyway so why should he? He claims he loves the club but if he really did he'd forget about his money because it's been dragging the club down for well over a decade now and sometimes you have to bite the bullet, accept you've made mistakes and pay the price.

We don't know who is out there who might be interested in running the club but I'd take a board of enthusiastic amateurs any day over a board of dinosaurs who have proven unequivocally that they are unable and unfit to run this once great football club. One thing is for sure and that is that nobody wants to work with Fenty and nobody can whilst he's holding all the cards. And nobody is willing to pay back Fenty's loans for a club that he has mismanaged for 14 years so that it's in the worst shape it has ever been in.

Like I said the other day, this is all hypothetical because for somebody to walk away like Fenty should would require them to have some humility and dignity. Instead he's a control freak who has a narcissistic personality disorder. The only way we'll get rid of him is to stay away from matches and sadly that will also damage the club further. Keep supporting the team this season as they need us but long term we need a regime change because it cannot go on like this any longer.


Even if he were to go, I think the requirement for his loans to be repaid in the future would be a massive burden for a future owner to carry. Either way we’d be stuck with Fenty unless we can find a way to make him just want to cut ties completely. If fans are able to put significant pressure on him during the summer then I think he’d walk away.

Why should he be given his money back in the event that another owner steers us to ‘footballing fortune’ on the back of his recklessness and incompetence.


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Add me and three others to the list of season ticket abstainers. We showed with OP, that once the fans take a idea on board, it flies.
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Add me and three others to the list of season ticket abstainers. We showed with OP, that once the fans take a idea on board, it flies.


Me too, down to skinflint Fenty



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Actually the majority of supporters who attend do support the board-if they don't why haven't they taken direct action ie not renewing ST's,reduction in away support etc,demonstrations etc.


You've got to be flipping joking mate. I don't go that often and keep my opinions to myself in the ground, but the number of complete strangers who hate Fenty is overwhelming.


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Is there a buyer for the club in the wings who can do a better job that i don't know about? I believe the owner has had some serious errors of judgement in his selection of the last manager but if resigns where does a replacement come from?


we don't need a buyer. Just someone who can run a football club. If he loved GTFC like he claims, JF would intercourse off and allow someone else to run the club without him having to sell up.

He's copulated the club up twice over and should do the decent thing if he really loved GTFC rather than being in love with his own self image.


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In short, in time honoured Boating Lake fashion.....intercourse off Fenty, your time is up.


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