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Club statement on the Port Vale game https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/2018/march/club-statement/"Access to the Mariners Trust Bar in the Young’s Stand has changed for supporters sitting in the Young’s Lower Stand." Does this mean we get in a different way, or only certain people are allowed in? Can anyone shed any light? |
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All of which would have been prevented by having half a dozen coppers inside the ground. !!!! |
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A response to a problem that wouldn't of occured if the club had forked out for the police presence that is required when playing against a side with a known element that Vale have.
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Brain dead morons spoil it for everyone once again. Does have the ring of closing the stable door about it.
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Why not just exit all away fans on to Harrington street?
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Why not just exit all away fans on to Harrington street?
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1 "All public bars will not open during the second half of any fixture." A crafty way of forcing us to watch the second half |
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The biggest issue with the problems against port vale was the club not paying to have police in the ground. This is despite the obvious intelligence held by the police who had increased their presence in the area during the build up to the game.
The statement from the club makes no reference to this and while I accept that football should be free from this issues I also know that it isn’t and failure to take the necessary steps leads to scenes like the ones we saw.
The blaming of fans and the suggestion that it was alcohol fuelled shows a basic lack of understanding of the problems encountered on that day and those that will be encountered in the future. Alcohol may have had a small influence on the events but it was not the main issue. The issue was that a certain element from port vale travelled and were not correctly policed once inside the ground that our risk element were also not effectively controlled. Disorder would have occurred if alcohol was not sold in the ground.
It is easy to blame th supporters. To suggest that they are mindless thugs who need to be treated as such but it’s not the case. A small number of the crowd on that particular day were inent on causing disorder in the ground. The way to combat this would be be either to have police in the ground or to have the right number of correctly trained stewards in the ground. Neither of which happened and allowed the disorder to take place.
Punishing all fans is just another example of how out of touch those who run our football club are.
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The biggest issue with the problems against port vale was the club not paying to have police in the ground. This is despite the obvious intelligence held by the police who had increased their presence in the area during the build up to the game.
The statement from the club makes no reference to this and while I accept that football should be free from this issues I also know that it isn’t and failure to take the necessary steps leads to scenes like the ones we saw.
The blaming of fans and the suggestion that it was alcohol fuelled shows a basic lack of understanding of the problems encountered on that day and those that will be encountered in the future. Alcohol may have had a small influence on the events but it was not the main issue. The issue was that a certain element from port vale travelled and were not correctly policed once inside the ground that our risk element were also not effectively controlled. Disorder would have occurred if alcohol was not sold in the ground.
It is easy to blame th supporters. To suggest that they are mindless thugs who need to be treated as such but it’s not the case. A small number of the crowd on that particular day were inent on causing disorder in the ground. The way to combat this would be be either to have police in the ground or to have the right number of correctly trained stewards in the ground. Neither of which happened and allowed the disorder to take place.
Punishing all fans is just another example of how out of touch those who run our football club are.
Exactly. The actions of a few idiots and a complete failure in stadium management has been brushed aside and blamed on booze. A couple of coppers between the two sets of fans would’ve stopped that. Another example of those at the club not taking any responsiblty for their failures and the masses being punished for it. |
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"We are disappointed that the actions of a small number of Port Vale, Grimsby Town and other Football Club’s supporters have inconvenienced many of our honest, well-behaved and law-abiding supporters."
Accept the club was at fault for not protecting paying customers..
Accept club is in the dark ages if they think football violence is purely alcohol driven..
Review club policy on stewarding and liaising with police prior to home matches..
Police in the ground for the half dozen or so "high risk" games per season..
Visiting supporters entry and exit via Harrington Street only..
No need to inconvenience honest, well-behaved and law-abiding supporters..
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