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I appreciate many of us are feeling somewhat deflated and disempowered and dejected at the moment. However, I thought I'd start a thread asking what we might do as individual and collective supporters over the final few games of the season, to ensure that the support for the team is as vocal and visible as possible, and to ensure we do all WE can to help the team avoid relegation. Can we re-channel the energies of OP? Can someone orchestrate the crowd? Can we theme match days? Can we pressure the club to entice a larger crowd, etc. etc.
Over to you Fishy posters to come up with your 'cunning plans'.
This is not a post about changing the board etc. - that's no doubt for another thread/future course of action/later date. UTM!
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Child free places would be a good start as well as entry for adults priced at £10, I’m sure the season ticket holders could understand this given the circumstances, we need Blundell Park packed to the rafters for the remaining home games.
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Blindfold Stevenage keeper.? Would still need shots on target thou.
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Blindfold Stevenage keeper.? Would still need shots on target thou.
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Good Friday should be a good crowd anyway,
The last 3 homes games should be £5 adults and £1 kids,
It will cost the club a bit ,
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Not as much as being non league next season,
That should see 6,000+ gates to cheer us on.
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Yes, half-price admission to the last three home games. Pack the ground out and back the team vocally from the first whistle
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Open McMenemy's, a big quiz or kareoke. A player on each table, the players should mingle with the fans... They need to see what this club means to us all and buy into that.
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Should food poison the opposing teams when they visit BP... they all get the runs and play their reserves (If they can get them up to Cleethorpes on time)
However we'd still probably lose
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We all know that the Town fans are an untapped source at the club and that's through the clubs own incompetence. Town generally get behind the team and anything to help the club however, as recent seasons have proved Fenty blames the fans the last time went down and is holding a grudge against us for OP Promotion, we can't win, we back the team until we can't shout any more only to be let down time and time again, the onus is on the players they are the only ones who can save this club, question is do they want to be hero's at the end of the season or complete and utter flipping losers.
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Involve the crowd before or at half time like they used to do. A crossbar challenge or spinning penalties.. It wont make the crowd but it will be something to laugh at
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If the Beast from the East arrives again this Friday, don't volunteer to clear the pitch of snow.
This could enable Michael Jolley to have extra time with his inherited players to assess them, mindset them, (in to believing the team can win), get them fitter (especially some of the oldies) and pick a winning team.
This is in contrast to the Carlisle away game, where the Carlisle fans turned up to clear the pitch - believing 3 points were in the bag. (and they were).
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That might work if the pitch wasn't cleared until about August
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Was expecting to see some kind of offer today for the Good Friday game. Only four days away now, so a bit late if they are thinking of doing something. Has everyone given up?
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We could try distracting their players by show them our bras
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Was expecting to see some kind of offer today for the Good Friday game. Only four days away now, so a bit late if they are thinking of doing something. Has everyone given up?
I got my tickets BOGOF with the Vale ones. Surely I’m not the only one 🤔
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Half price tickets, what half-wit thought of that, we don't want to devalue the product 😲
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BOGOF tickets have already been offered for this game ginny. But, it was so easy to seat my two free tickets directly in front of us, in the middle of the Lower that it appears not many have been taken.
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Ah, yes, forgot about those.
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Was expecting to see some kind of offer today for the Good Friday game. Only four days away now, so a bit late if they are thinking of doing something. Has everyone given up?
I remember last time we went down I was willing, cajoling the players to keep us up. Cheering every attack and going mad every time we scored or the rivals for the drop messed up. All I am doing this year is moaning on here more; it drains you in a way, the sure knowledge that we will always be in a mess till we get new owners, and even then it might be too late for the club as a whole. I still use my season ticket but the passion has gone, at least for now. A relationship without passion is just a friendship and that is what the club and I are - just friends and not my all consuming passion. Gallows humour from the fans seem to suggest they know whats coming; there doesn't seem to be the will to survive that there should be. Chesterfield have got the bit between their teeth after yesterday and will move heaven and earth to get out of it - can we match them? I really feel for Jolley coming into this, but he has got to get them fired up for Fridays match which we must win. Things could look much better with just a win, and perhaps the fight to stay up will return.
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I honestly think all these ideas are too late (getting the players to see what it means to us), or possibly counter-productive (packing the Park).
Anyone who hasn't been for a long while, or at all, will be disappointed if they're tempted back by cheap tickets. The atmosphere could quickly become worse. Better to have a few committed souls.
Or maybe I'm just feeling negative and jaded with the whole thing.
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I remember last time we went down I was willing, cajoling the players to keep us up. Cheering every attack and going mad every time we scored or the rivals for the drop messed up.
All I am doing this year is moaning on here more; it drains you in a way, the sure knowledge that we will always be in a mess till we get new owners, and even then it might be too late for the club as a whole.
I still use my season ticket but the passion has gone, at least for now. A relationship without passion is just a friendship and that is what the club and I are - just friends and not my all consuming passion.
Gallows humour from the fans seem to suggest they know whats coming; there doesn't seem to be the will to survive that there should be. Chesterfield have got the bit between their teeth after yesterday and will move heaven and earth to get out of it - can we match them?
I really feel for Jolley coming into this, but he has got to get them fired up for Fridays match which we must win. Things could look much better with just a win, and perhaps the fight to stay up will return.
similar feelings....i think the fans are resigned to it....we have known since mid December that we were heading only one way yet the board refused to accept it....JF waived his self declared 6 game rule to give his mate a chance...he leads the board..they followed suit and any glimmer of hope we had was gone in January. While no supporter wants us to get relegated i think people are coming almost to accept it as they think it would be the end of JF....personally i think he would see non league as a way of potentially increasing profit ( in his head we would be a top 5 side, more likely to get a run in the trophy, pay players less ) and maybe pay off some of his loans as a result.
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similar feelings....i think the fans are resigned to it....we have known since mid December that we were heading only one way yet the board refused to accept it....JF waived his self declared 6 game rule to give his mate a chance...he leads the board..they followed suit and any glimmer of hope we had was gone in January. While no supporter wants us to get relegated i think people are coming almost to accept it as they think it would be the end of JF....personally i think he would see non league as a way of potentially increasing profit ( in his head we would be a top 5 side, more likely to get a run in the trophy, pay players less ) and maybe pay off some of his loans as a result.
I can't see that myself, if town were to loose 1500 season ticket holders, that's over 500k lost, with the commercial department struggling to sell the club, i can only believe we would have a decreasing budget; Therefore attracting further poor quality players, a spiral of failure, possibly emulating York or Stockport Or Darlington, No profit in relegation, and parachute payments lost paying the current crop of shite.
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A quick summary of some of the suggestions - are any of them worth acting upon - fans, club, trust?
Crowd size • Aim for 6000+ gates Attendance pricing for last 3 games • Child free places • Entry for adults priced at £10 (or less) • OR last 3 homes games should be £5 adults and £1 kids • OR half-price admission to the last three home games • OR buy one get one free for a friend Vocal support • Be as vocal as possible from the first whistle (and before) • Have ‘song leaders’ in each stand leading the singing Building player-fan rapport and awareness of the fans passion • Make the players aware that they could be heroes in the eyes of about 25,000 + fans (guesstimate total fans including those who don’t attend) • Open McMenemy's, a big quiz or karaoke. A player on each table, the players should mingle with the fans... They need to see what this club means to us all and buy into that. • Opportunities to show the passion of the fans Pre-match and half time • Involve the crowd before or at half time like they used to do. Crossbar challenge, spinning penalties etc... • Let the manager know we’re behind him Cheating!/distraction • Blindfold the Stevenage Keeper!?! • Food poisoning!?! • Show them our bras OK, so we can’t resort to all of these (except the bras) but can we make things more intimidating and uncomfortable for the visiting team/players?
I must admit, perhaps the most striking response was the feeling of resignation. I hope it's too early for this and that we might be able to do something, anything, to give the team even a 1% lift. UTM!
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A quick summary of some of the suggestions - are any of them worth acting upon - fans, club, trust?
Crowd size • Aim for 6000+ gates Attendance pricing for last 3 games • Child free places • Entry for adults priced at £10 (or less) • OR last 3 homes games should be £5 adults and £1 kids • OR half-price admission to the last three home games • OR buy one get one free for a friend Vocal support • Be as vocal as possible from the first whistle (and before) • Have ‘song leaders’ in each stand leading the singing Building player-fan rapport and awareness of the fans passion • Make the players aware that they could be heroes in the eyes of about 25,000 + fans (guesstimate total fans including those who don’t attend) • Open McMenemy's, a big quiz or karaoke. A player on each table, the players should mingle with the fans... They need to see what this club means to us all and buy into that. • Opportunities to show the passion of the fans Pre-match and half time • Involve the crowd before or at half time like they used to do. Crossbar challenge, spinning penalties etc... • Let the manager know we’re behind him Cheating!/distraction • Blindfold the Stevenage Keeper!?! • Food poisoning!?! • Show them our bras OK, so we can’t resort to all of these (except the bras) but can we make things more intimidating and uncomfortable for the visiting team/players?
I must admit, perhaps the most striking response was the feeling of resignation. I hope it's too early for this and that we might be able to do something, anything, to give the team even a 1% lift. UTM!
If you think I am going to show the opposition my wifes bras for a 1% lift you have another thing coming. Mind you come to think of it she gets a 100% lift from them so perhaps not such a bad idea after all.
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A quick summary of some of the suggestions - are any of them worth acting upon - fans, club, trust?
Crowd size • Aim for 6000+ gates Lets advertise we are playing Man Utd and you might get that Attendance pricing for last 3 games • Child free places • Entry for adults priced at £10 (or less) • OR last 3 homes games should be £5 adults and £1 kids • OR half-price admission to the last three home games • OR buy one get one free for a friend Vocal support • Be as vocal as possible from the first whistle (and before) • Have ‘song leaders’ in each stand leading the singing Building player-fan rapport and awareness of the fans passion • Make the players aware that they could be heroes in the eyes of about 25,000 + fans (guesstimate total fans including those who don’t attend) Too late for that...the players have had nigh on 40 games to set an impression • Open McMenemy's, a big quiz or karaoke. A player on each table, the players should mingle with the fans... They need to see what this club means to us all and buy into that. Again too late in the day....one for next pre season though with the next batch of players • Opportunities to show the passion of the fans Pre-match and half time • Involve the crowd before or at half time like they used to do. Crossbar challenge, spinning penalties etc... Winner gets to start against Chesterfield • Let the manager know we’re behind him Cheating!/distraction • Blindfold the Stevenage Keeper!?! • Food poisoning!?! • Show them our bras OK, so we can’t resort to all of these (except the bras) but can we make things more intimidating and uncomfortable for the visiting team/players?
I must admit, perhaps the most striking response was the feeling of resignation. I hope it's too early for this and that we might be able to do something, anything, to give the team even a 1% lift. Just another 88% to find then to get them anywhere near good enough UTM!
Maybe we should follow the example of Barnstoneworth who on a terrible run recalled former greats MacIntyre, Treadmore and Davitt.
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If you think I am going to show the opposition my wifes bras for a 1% lift you have another thing coming. Mind you come to think of it she gets a 100% lift from them so perhaps not such a bad idea after all.
Oh no, not another reply about things going t*ts up
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Maybe we should follow the example of Barnstoneworth who on a terrible run recalled former greats MacIntyre, Treadmore and Davitt.
I fear if we are relegated, the Foggen Scrap company will take over and name the new site of its crushing mill on BP after the club - the Mariners Crushing Mill - how apt?!
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How can we help? Not berating and insulting our players would help.
I understand there are frustrations, but at the end of Saturdays game, there were a small group (and I hasten to add it was a small group at least) who went down the front to hurl abuse and make gestures at the players who came over to applaud the fans.
I'm not sure how many more times it needs to be said. The players are well aware of the position the club are in, and that they really need to start landing some results. And I won't even make the defense that we have an awesome team - it's clear that it's really not a great squad, for whatever reason.
But it's now become a psychological battle and positivity is a valuable weapon which will help make or break the next few games.
Screaming abuse at them, making obscene hand gestures achieves precisely NOTHING and only serves to help expedite our nosedive back into non-league. Not sure why that's so flipping hard to get through to some people.
Yeah - we're all frustrated. But this is the very definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face. You're making it worse. Stop it. I also want to reiterate here that I'm not "blaming the fans" for the terrible situation on the pitch; I'm not... I'm blaming a small subset for not helping!
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Sadly, you're wasting your breath chicane. There will always be a small element that hurl abuse at all and sundry. It does nothing but it won't stop them.
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Child free places would be a good start as well as entry for adults priced at £10, I’m sure the season ticket holders could understand this given the circumstances, we need Blundell Park packed to the rafters for the remaining home games.
This would get my backing Chris Anything that puts bums on seats to give the team more support has to be worthwhile I accept that the club could potentially lose some revenue by doing it but the finances here might need to take a back seat if the club want the fans to "pack the park" UTM
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I have to agree that shouting abuse at the players does not work,
If they are giving their all that should be good enough for us,
BUT
If they are not trying that's a different matter,
By my limited experience of seeing them play this season and comments on here every week,
The players are trying but are just not good enough,
That does not mean we will never win a game again,
A good manager can get a set of average players and turn them into a above average team,
I think Jolley will prove he is a good manager and improve our team to get the points needed to stay up,
We have to start winning this weekend though,
You never know we might win one then the 2nd and 3rd wins come straight away,
Wouldn't that be good ?
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Honestly, we as fans have done all we can. We've raised an incredible 110k in a short space of time. We've sold out away ends all over the country, albeit our traveling numbers are down after the hoofball Slade inflicted on us.
We put our trust in the board who signed players late again, resulting in saved wages but shite players nobody else wanted, we trusted the board who got rid of Bogle, Clements, Osborne, Pearson, Jones, Amond and the rest.
It's all down to the players that remain now, we can do no more but continue to support them in numbers and vociferously.
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"What can we do to help ?"
Personally I'll be trying to blow the ball into the Stevenage net on Friday........trouble is I'm on the very back row of the Upper.
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Dear Fishy folk,
Thank you for all the comments, views and opinions. Whilst I don’t agree with some of you completely, I respect your opinions and believe it’s the diversity of such a community that gives it its energy and vibrancy. From those paraphrasing Dad’s Army’s Private James Frazer believing that as a club ‘we’re doomed’, on the one hand, to the eternal optimists on the other, not to mention the hopeful pragmatists in between suggesting that “Life is not always a matter of holding good cards, but sometimes, playing a poor hand well.”, - to quote Jack London. I’m sure whatever happens for the rest of the season, it is this spirit, passion and energy that will save our club over the longer term, despite how bleak things may seem currently.
I hope we will let the manager know we’re behind him as we walk out on Friday (“Jolley, Jolley, Jolley, Jolleeey, I’m beginning of you please, just save The Town” – sorry - insert your own Stevenage bra reference here),, and also support the players from the kick-off to final whistle with choruses of ‘sing when we’re fishing’, ‘we are town’, ‘mariners, mariners’ etc. etc., as well as doing our best to panic their dodgy keeper. Anything, anything at all that we can do.
Apologies for my ramblings, some go quiet, some get angry, I just ramble… AND HOPE! All the best, fellow Mariners! UTFM!
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We lack goals so maybe focusing on one of the strikers would help. Cheers them every time they get the ball, sing their name as much as possible, maximum encouragement. It could give them the extra % they need to score ( didn't want to specify what % that is). The hardest bit would be to make it not sound patronising.
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Funny how all these positive suggestions re coming from new posters. Where were you before?
Seems to me like the comments you get on the RT or Russia Insider websites.
Positivity is all well and good but you should have been having a go at 'the powers that be' months ago before we got to this stage. A bit of cheerleading now is going to make feck all difference. Letting another 1000 in at BP cheaply will not lift the players. We've been this way in 2009 and 2010 for all the decking good it did.
I'm not saying abuse the squad by any means.
Besides we all know that the fan copulated things up in the first place what with their Operation Promotion and crazy schemes like that.
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Funny how all these positive suggestions re coming from new posters. Where were you before?
Seems to me like the comments you get on the RT or Russia Insider websites.
Positivity is all well and good but you should have been having a go at 'the powers that be' months ago before we got to this stage. A bit of cheerleading now is going to make feck all difference. Letting another 1000 in at BP cheaply will not lift the players. We've been this way in 2009 and 2010 for all the decking good it did.
I'm not saying abuse the squad by any means.
Besides we all know that the fan copulated things up in the first place what with their Operation Promotion and crazy schemes like that.
Thanks so much Kingston I'll take my 'new', non critical of the board, Russian leaning views away and next time I'll start a post trying to find a problem for a solution. Seriously though, I appreciate where you're coming from
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"What can we do to help ?"
Personally I'll be trying to blow the ball into the Stevenage net on Friday........trouble is I'm on the very back row of the Upper.
That's going to take a big puff.....
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Was it before or after the Coventry game that town had a motivational speaker and were spending the day at an army camp?? Clutching onto straws here!
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Thanks so much Kingston I'll take my 'new', non critical of the board, Russian leaning views away and next time I'll start a post trying to find a problem for a solution. Seriously though, I appreciate where you're coming from
If there are stories after Friday about an exile and his daughter being found ill on a town centre bench after being infected with Fentichek you'll know I've got my comeuppance.
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