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I don't see the point in buying shares (using whatever the Trust can access cash-wise) when it gave away a huge slice of (free) shares that it can never hope to replace.
Swin they made a mistake albeit a big one it happens.We will get nowhere using it as a stick to continuously beat them with especially when the decision was made by those who voted for it the shares were given away democratically. (wrongly)
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So that’s 10 pages on here, 20-odd pages in the “Freefall” thread, another 6 or 7 pages in the “Thoughts and Opinions” thread and not one offer from this oh-so-concerned fanbase to actually help in any tangible way. Says it all.
Plenty of people happy to suggest others do this or do that, resign from their voluntary positions or force Fenty out the door and then run the club (presumably whilst keeping their day jobs?), but nobody really offering to get stuck in themselves. How many of these suggestions have been put to the board members themselves? Attended many meetings? The open events held a few months ago?
Can only respect anyone who has taken on any of the roles or has tried to help in the past or the present versions of the Trust. Must be a nightmare with so many backseat drivers.
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It was mentioned in another post that the trust pays 45000 PA to the club. The extra 16000 is rent, electricity etc. If that is ths case they should keep all the profits. The trust said it would act on the survey and the overwhelming response was no to paying the club 30000. The last comment was that it would consider the results. Getting cold feet already?
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So that’s 10 pages on here, 20-odd pages in the “Freefall” thread, another 6 or 7 pages in the “Thoughts and Opinions” thread and not one offer from this oh-so-concerned fanbase to actually help in any tangible way. Says it all.
Plenty of people happy to suggest others do this or do that, resign from their voluntary positions or force Fenty out the door and then run the club (presumably whilst keeping their day jobs?), but nobody really offering to get stuck in themselves. How many of these suggestions have been put to the board members themselves? Attended many meetings? The open events held a few months ago?
Can only respect anyone who has taken on any of the roles or has tried to help in the past or the present versions of the Trust. Must be a nightmare with so many backseat drivers.
At least the posters have made their views public. All we have had from trust speakers are innuendo because they are keeping their feelings private. Not one of them is capable of offering any more than Fenty gives at the moment
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It's like when JF was asked about the catering facilities at the Fans Forum. He basically said that it was an outside contract so the club had no say on the standard of the food. So, no checks and balances about the food quality before handing out the contracts. It is the club's responsibility to the paying customer when they're handing out contracts to ensure that part of the matchday experience is a great one. Fish finger sandwiches, Lincolnshire sausages and properly brewed tea and coffee anyone? But no, sod the fans, take the money and pass the buck..
The toilet facilities a little different. It could be claimed by JF that there's no need to spend any more money on BP as the new stadium's round the corner. Well, what new stadium for a start. And on top of that, add the toilet facilities to the poor catering at half time and Town losing yet again, a fan might well be pointing percy and looking around and thinking, "this is disgusting". The toilet facilities won't be a prime reason for fans to decide not to attend but may form part of a larger grim view of the matchday experience. JF could then add that if money is spent on BP there would be less money for the playing budget and it could be countered with the fact that he's not attracted outside investment for years and if he had there would be the cash to do both.
Catering and toilets are two very simple problems to sort out, they've been ignored and all filter back to whose ultimate responsibility it is to deliver. It may seem petty of me to have a go about these two subjects when greater problems abound, but these two examples are symptomatic of how the football club is run..
Your raise perfectly valid points. For a long time I have taken issue with the way BP is run - the ground and facilities therein. It is simply unacceptable not to improve the facilities or improve any fabric of the stadium because he hoped to move into a shiny new stadium. It is unacceptable that the non chairman thinks it is good that he saves a few quid patching everything up. One thing that gets my goat is the front facade of the stadium. Grimy, dirty and a small example of what lies inside. What would it cost for a cherry picker and a good wash to give a better first impression? Small things as you say, but when everything else is c**p they are the icing on the cake.
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So that’s 10 pages on here, 20-odd pages in the “Freefall” thread, another 6 or 7 pages in the “Thoughts and Opinions” thread and not one offer from this oh-so-concerned fanbase to actually help in any tangible way. Says it all.
Plenty of people happy to suggest others do this or do that, resign from their voluntary positions or force Fenty out the door and then run the club (presumably whilst keeping their day jobs?), but nobody really offering to get stuck in themselves. How many of these suggestions have been put to the board members themselves? Attended many meetings? The open events held a few months ago?
Can only respect anyone who has taken on any of the roles or has tried to help in the past or the present versions of the Trust. Must be a nightmare with so many backseat drivers.
People have offered publicly and privately
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It was mentioned in another post that the trust pays 45000 PA to the club. The extra 16000 is rent, electricity etc. If that is ths case they should keep all the p [b]The trust said it would act on the survey and the overwhelming response was no to paying the club 30000. The last comment was that it would consider the results. Getting cold feet already?
They said, IIRC, that they’d put an action plan together and would need to canvass members on the important issues.
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So that’s 10 pages on here, 20-odd pages in the “Freefall” thread, another 6 or 7 pages in the “Thoughts and Opinions” thread and not one offer from this oh-so-concerned fanbase to actually help in any tangible way. Says it all.
Plenty of people happy to suggest others do this or do that, resign from their voluntary positions or force Fenty out the door and then run the club (presumably whilst keeping their day jobs?), but nobody really offering to get stuck in themselves. How many of these suggestions have been put to the board members themselves? Attended many meetings? The open events held a few months ago?
Can only respect anyone who has taken on any of the roles or has tried to help in the past or the present versions of the Trust. Must be a nightmare with so many backseat drivers.
You don't go to a restaurant and cook the bloody food yourself do you? We are fans - we have paid millions more into the club than Fenty, but he chose to gain complete control and run the place in his own image.
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Your raise perfectly valid points. For a long time I have taken issue with the way BP is run - the ground and facilities therein.
It is simply unacceptable not to improve the facilities or improve any fabric of the stadium because he hoped to move into a shiny new stadium. It is unacceptable that the non chairman thinks it is good that he saves a few quid patching everything up.
One thing that gets my goat is the front facade of the stadium. Grimy, dirty and a small example of what lies inside. What would it cost for a cherry picker and a good wash to give a better first impression?
Small things as you say, but when everything else is c**p they are the icing on the cake.
Quite right a very good and not very expensive Olive branch would be to sort out the Pontoon LH side to retain the vocal support.As others have said the catering and toilets should be a MUST DO exercise to sort and make better.
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People have offered publicly and privately
Apologies to those who have offered their services - good on you, certainly more than I’ve ever done!
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