Does the Trust have the acumen to force Fenty out.

I think we are all missing the point about the £30,000 for a seat on the board,

Once Fenty starting charging the Trust for the privilege of a seat ,

The fans when they found out found another nail to bang in Fenty's coffin,

We all know the Trust are there to support the club by what means possible as well as representing the fans,

So Fenty and the board would more likely have recieved the £30,000 a year from the Trust anyway because that is what they do,

So a very big PR gaff again John.

Quoted from 1mickylyons

Swin they made a mistake albeit a big one it happens.We will get nowhere using it as a stick to continuously beat them with especially when the decision was made by those who voted for it the shares  were given away democratically. (wrongly)

I don't intend to use it as a stick to beat anyone - frankly I couldn't give a excrement either way (I am not a member of the Trust, I don't intend to join as I have always believed it to be a totally powerless (especially in the club boardroom), disjointed and chaotic organisation albeit run by genuine caring fans) but I hate to see Fenty winning by throwing his weight about, which is what happened to the large batch of shares gifted to the Trust.
The decision sadly cannot be reversed but IMO buying shares when the outcome viz a viz shifting Fenty or even getting a louder voice will not change one iota, it would be a waste of money, better that any fans inclined to contribute to shares buy them individually and in their own name

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

You don't go to a restaurant and cook the bloody food yourself do you?

We are fans - we have paid millions more into the club than Fenty, but he chose to gain complete control and run the place in his own image.

The Trust is a member-led organisation with a board of representatives. When members aren’t engaging the Trust need to do more, but when members are given the opportunity to engage but don’t, they have to expect their reps to represent them. If they aren’t, then there is the option to challenge them.

I would like to add that if Fenty leaves and sells his shares,

He should give the Trust the £250,000 worth back that he took off them.

Quoted from Ipswin

I don't intend to use it as a stick to beat anyone - frankly I couldn't give a excrement either way (I am not a member of the Trust, I don't intend to join as I have always believed it to be a totally powerless (especially in the club boardroom), disjointed and chaotic organisation albeit run by genuine caring fans) but I hate to see Fenty winning by throwing his weight about, which is what happened to the large batch of shares gifted to the Trust.
The decision sadly cannot be reversed but IMO buying shares when the outcome viz a viz shifting Fenty or even getting a louder voice will not change one iota, it would be a waste of money, better that any fans inclined to contribute to shares buy them individually and in their own name

I can see the logic in fans buying shares individually AGREED. I have said numerous times I totally disagreed with giving the shares over and made that known but you had to see what went on to believe it.Honestly unless you where there the pressure on those supporters because that`s all they are was unbelievable. If I were on the Trust board today I would certainly be looking into getting those shares back through Legal channels if needs be. I always assumed JF whatever his faults would do the right thing by the fans and by that I mean give those shares back they haven't cost him anything. Sadly I have lost all faith in the bloke.He moans about lack of football fortune and he does have a small case but FFS John what about all the avoidable potholes you have driven us into? Sell the Club John me and Swin will give you 50p each for your shares and a restricted view seat for life in the Main stand you won`t get a better deal than that.

Quoted from ska face

The Trust is a member-led organisation with a board of representatives. When members aren’t engaging the Trust need to do more, but when members are given the opportunity to engage but don’t, they have to expect their reps to represent them. If they aren’t, then there is the option to challenge them.

It’s catch 22 for me.  I don’t believe in keyboards warriors taking the easy route.  I have levelled criticism at the way the Trust represents us on the board.

But if I join the Trust to make my opinions more valid I am funding an organisation that I don’t like the current direction of.

So how do I get round this one ???

Quoted from ska face

The Trust is a member-led organisation with a board of representatives. When members aren’t engaging the Trust need to do more, but when members are given the opportunity to engage but don’t, they have to expect their reps to represent them. If they aren’t, then there is the option to challenge them.

Which would be great if paid up members got any information,membership cards etc
Personally within the Trust I would have a home branch and conduct meetings Monthly away from BP where the walls have ears.

Quoted from ska face

So that’s 10 pages on here, 20-odd pages in the “Freefall” thread, another 6 or 7 pages in the “Thoughts and Opinions” thread and not one offer from this oh-so-concerned fanbase to actually help in any tangible way. Says it all.

Plenty of people happy to suggest others do this or do that, resign from their voluntary positions or force Fenty out the door and then run the club (presumably whilst keeping their day jobs?), but nobody really offering to get stuck in themselves. How many of these suggestions have been put to the board members themselves? Attended many meetings? The open events held a few months ago?

Can only respect anyone who has taken on any of the roles or has tried to help in the past or the present versions of the Trust. Must be a nightmare with so many backseat drivers.

Further to other comments, there are many, myself included, who would gladly get more involved if we were able to make a difference. The shares vote made the trust far less relevant/important than it should have been and there is one stubborn and immovable object standing in the way of that changing.

Quoted from ska face

So that’s 10 pages on here, 20-odd pages in the “Freefall” thread, another 6 or 7 pages in the “Thoughts and Opinions” thread and not one offer from this oh-so-concerned fanbase to actually help in any tangible way. Says it all.

Plenty of people happy to suggest others do this or do that, resign from their voluntary positions or force Fenty out the door and then run the club (presumably whilst keeping their day jobs?), but nobody really offering to get stuck in themselves. How many of these suggestions have been put to the board members themselves? Attended many meetings? The open events held a few months ago?

Can only respect anyone who has taken on any of the roles or has tried to help in the past or the present versions of the Trust. Must be a nightmare with so many backseat drivers.

You'd be surprised at how many posters have offered their services to the club for free and also offered their services to the Trust if it changes direction.

This forum provides a great source of information to the club from its fanbase and also guidance on the wishes of members to the Trust.

What else can we do?

Quoted from Civvy at last

It’s catch 22 for me.  I don’t believe in keyboards warriors taking the easy route.  I have levelled criticism at the way the Trust represents us on the board.

But if I join the Trust to make my opinions more valid I am funding an organisation that I don’t like the current direction of.

So how do I get round this one ???

That's sort of how i feel. I have time to donate and a bit of money if it came to raising some cash, but i see the Trust as part of the establishment and part of the problem. They have no power and i think they need to step away from the club and fight from the outside. It has been said that there a very few Trusts that have a seat on the board of a club and that is something to be cherished, but one has to ask why they were offered that seat in the first place. Didn't the offer come in the middle of the club trying to prise away the Trusts shares?

I'm a big advocate of public (collective), rather than private ownership, and i know that is something that JF thinks is pie in the sky and could never happen. Maybe he is right, but i think it's time to give it a shot. I'd be more than willing to donate time and energy to something along those lines, but my skills are working with my hands. It would take someone with more knowledge and business acumen than i or many others possess to get something rolling. If that ground had more fan involvement in the day to day running, i would be down there sorting out the sh1tters and other maintenance tasks for free. As for finances and that sort of thing, i have no clue. I can just about manage my meagre turnover from my one man business.

The many are being controlled by the few and that no longer sits right with me. I feel totally distanced from my football club, and a crossroads has been reached by many.