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marinerjase
March 18, 2018, 4:53pm
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Given that the Trust chair has past association with the club- take it as a given he’s answerable and accountable to one person, and not the members who work hard to raise funds.

Trust won’t work until they be rid of ANY association with the club. Shouldn’t be the case - isn’t with other clubs - but ours is unique because of the fella pulling all the strings. If that last fans forum didn’t show everything then some will never see.


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Gaffer58
March 18, 2018, 4:54pm
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With all these comments regarding the trust, I would assume some trust board members read the Fishy, so gentlemen here is your chance to put your/the trusts side of the argument, unless you have to check with Mr Fenty first.
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March 18, 2018, 4:54pm
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Quoted from davmariner


Would you be interested in starting a new Trust?


The Trust That Isn't The Trust Trust?
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I would be interested to see the opinion of Barralad on Bax's revelations as I believe he is a member of the trust board.
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March 18, 2018, 5:00pm

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Quoted from ginnywings
I think the only course of action for the Trust is to now step away from the board and fight from the outside. It's clear that although they have a vote on the board and may well vote against the prevailing view of the other four, they will always be outvoted. The board have entrenched themselves into a western version of the Politburo and are surrounded by people who toe the party line. Any dissent and you are out on your ear.


This has got to be the way to go.


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KingstonMariner
March 18, 2018, 5:05pm
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Very interesting, telling and concerning stuff on this thread from bax. Thanks for coming back on here.

Sounds like the Trust is in a right mess. Maybe there should be a voting system for the whole membership to vote/appoint people into Trust Board positions. Equally vote them off. How can a supporters trust be run by people who aren't willing to act on the wishes of the supporters they're there to represent?

Far be it for me to tell you how to spend your time bax but I'd have loved you to stay on with the Trust and out these people and get them away from the MT. Why do you say it will be an interesting summer by the way?

There is a vote by members on who is on the Trust board. Very rarely are there more candidates than places or at least not many so there isn’t really a debate over direction.


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March 18, 2018, 5:06pm
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Having started the thread in the vain hope that someone might come up with a positive or two, I find myself even more fed up with the club than I was a few hours ago.

Bax has confirmed many of my worst fears about how the club is run and, frankly, I find it incredible that the club force someone like him out rather than engaging with a bright mind. Instead, they encircle themselves with groups of nodding heads and hope that 'football fortune' is just around the corner.

We go round in circles saying the same old thing but, I'm beginning to feel that this regime may unravel and hope that there may be a semblance of some pieces of a football club to put back together when it does.
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March 18, 2018, 5:07pm

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Thanks Bax for your involvement,but this just confirms my view that passion and innovation will be stifled by self interest at this club.


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March 18, 2018, 5:09pm
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Quoted from KingstonMariner

There is a vote by members on who is on the Trust board. Very rarely are there more candidates than places or at least not many so there isn’t really a debate over direction.


Is that right? A vote by other Trust Board members maybe, but I can't remember (as a mere trust member) being asked go vote on people joining the MT board.


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March 18, 2018, 5:11pm
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Well as other will know I have never really been a massive fan of the trust and I have on occasions been involved in some cross words with some people on the trust board but Bax's recent comments I think only support my view that the trust do not represent the fans has much as it should, when Bax resigned as the chairman I did express my concerns over Alan Rutter's role as interim chairman as he has been at fans forums expressing his support at the checkatrade trophy and expressing his opinion that Fenty is doing an excellent job, therefore I believe him to be a yes man, just like Terry Rudrum is and I fear Jon Wood is, amongst others. And that I think ties in with Bax's comment that there are certain people on the trust board who are more concerned about themselves and their opinions rather than the opinions of supporters.

Yes I know everyone is entitled to opinions, but if members of the trust board are making decisions based on their personal opinion rather than the opinion of supporters then that defeats the point of having a supports trust.

I do think we as fans should be entitled to vote in and out the trust board.


The solution is not to ditch the Trust but to find people who are not prepared to be yes men and unwilling to rock the boat.

For my money the Trust has always been too conservative (small C). The whole Fenty share gift situation being a classic illustration. Sadly too many members thought the same way as the Trust board at the time did.


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