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HertsGTFC
March 18, 2018, 4:20pm

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Well, in the first place, I don't see the board paying anyone six figures, and secondly, I don't see anyone of the calibre required to work for the individuals on the board.


I don't disagree.


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March 18, 2018, 4:24pm
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It is simply untenable for someone with such a poor record over such a long time to hold all the aces.It is about to get a whole lot worse over the next few weeks as once again we slip out of the football league with hardly a wimper.

Many years I have been railing against Fenty in private and on here, often swimming against the tide but there are fewer and fewer Fenty supporters now. I based my antipathy on what I could see as a fan, a little bit from some contact with him in business, and a lot from genuine people who deal with him close up. I see Bax (formerly) of the Trust is alluding to the same things.

He is a disaster area, completely unsuited to his role apart from his money in the early days, which we were grateful for at the time, but that limited input all those years ago has allowed him unfettered control of a great club and he has just made things worse, very much worse over time.

Despite my 58 years of going to BP I am almost not bothered about what happens to the actual team anymore, as I know as long as we stay in his vice like grip we will be going absolutely nowhere. Sad days are these.


Agree with this LCL - even with 'fruit loop' Marcus 12 months ago, things were bearable. How can things have gone so catastrophically wrong in such a short space of time? This last year has been a spectacular disaster, even by Fenty's standards.
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bax
March 18, 2018, 4:25pm
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Bax left the Trust as he opposed its direction. Apologies for speaking on his behalf if incorrect but it sounds to me like he has serious issues with the way the club is run so is it the case that the rest of the Trust board don't? If Mr Fenty thinks the money donated by lots of people with not a lot to give was a terrible thing then he can plough on trying to claw back his £2million without any contribution from me including the £30k a year he squeezes from the Trust. I don't want to pay money towards that any longer. He clearly holds our fan base in contempt along with his fellow board members so they'll be relieved  to have one less fan putting any pressure on.


The current direction of the Trust is to support the club's board come what may and discredit anyone who threatens the place on said board. I believe the fans and Trust members should make a decision of that magnitude. It's unsustainable for the Trust to continue to pay £46k a year for a place on the board (yes, that's what was handed over last year) and it will go bust if it continues as it is.

The survey results clearly show fans don't want the place on the board and they don't want to pay £30k a year for the privilege.

Unfortunately there are senior people on the Trust board who believe the place on the club board is more important than anything else. As long as the Trust continues to have the club's board contribute to the writing of its statements and fails to listen to its members as it has with the survey, it will continue to be irrelevant.

I have been as big a supporter of the Trust as anyone and I've spent a hugely enjoyable five years involved with it. But it's no longer fit for purpose and, in my opinion, doesn't listen to or represent the fans anymore.

The irony is there are some fantastic people involved on the Trust board who either don't know what's going on in front of them (or behind the scenes) or are being blindly led by people putting self interest above everything else.
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Tommy
March 18, 2018, 4:26pm
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Very interesting, telling and concerning stuff on this thread from bax. Thanks for coming back on here.

Sounds like the Trust is in a right mess. Maybe there should be a voting system for the whole membership to vote/appoint people into Trust Board positions. Equally vote them off. How can a supporters trust be run by people who aren't willing to act on the wishes of the supporters they're there to represent?

Far be it for me to tell you how to spend your time bax but I'd have loved you to stay on with the Trust and out these people and get them away from the MT. Why do you say it will be an interesting summer by the way?


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March 18, 2018, 4:31pm
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Whilst we're doing a Q and A I wondered what the 'nothing to worry about compared to some of the things that have gone on' referred to?
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March 18, 2018, 4:32pm

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Can't the Trust come out publicly and distance themselves from the current regime?

Can they be a catalyst to force change, perhaps through a mass boycott of games/ season ticket sales?

I could see the logic of trying to work with Fenty from within to minimise the damage he does, but it hasn't and never will work.


Is there the appetite for this amongst the Trust board?

We talk about Fenty’s Yes men on the GTFC but I think he’s now managed to get one on the Trust board too unfortunately.

Personally I’d like to see the Trust off the board and do whatever is necessary to rid the club of Fenty - which is what I put on the survey.

I’m fairly certain that in the survey results it was pretty unanimous that the Trust should stop paying the club 30k per year so I’d like to see that implemented and that may bring about an issue between Fenty and the Trust that hopefully results in a Trust vote that ends with the Trust coming off the board and applying as much pressure on Fenty as possible.
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March 18, 2018, 4:34pm
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Quoted from Rodley Mariner
Whilst we're doing a Q and A I wondered what the 'nothing to worry about compared to some of the things that have gone on' referred to?


Ask for an update on how they plan to pay the £46k based on reduced income from memberships and reduced income from the bars with zero income over the summer months. And if we get relegated...
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March 18, 2018, 4:34pm
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Very interesting, telling and concerning stuff on this thread from bax. Thanks for coming back on here.

Sounds like the Trust is in a right mess. Maybe there should be a voting system for the whole membership to vote/appoint people into Trust Board positions. Equally vote them off. How can a supporters trust be run by people who aren't willing to act on the wishes of the supporters they're there to represent?

Far be it for me to tell you how to spend your time bax but I'd have loved you to stay on with the Trust and out these people and get them away from the MT. Why do you say it will be an interesting summer by the way?


Absolutely right Tommy. It seems that there is very little 'independence' on the Trust board and significantly less now that Bax has gone. This, in itself, is very concerning but, together with what he has posted today, is extremely alarming. Total control seems to be the 'goal' of the GTFC board, let's hope it's a goal they are never allowed to achieve.
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March 18, 2018, 4:35pm
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Sounds like Bax has got a lot on his chest and wants to get rid of it.

Unless Fenty as links to the KGB I would rather he hung on until seasons end only because it would be fair to Mike Jolley who has enough on his plate right now.
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March 18, 2018, 4:35pm

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I've suspected for a while that the Trust have just turned into club yes men, and i am no longer willing to support them either. The club will get no more money from me beyond this season, and neither will the Trust. I've done the dutiful supporter bit for too long now and enough is enough.
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