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I have to add that Bax's comments make me genuinely question whether I want to keep putting money into the trust as well. Exactly what does it stand for now? Even the results of the poll came with an asterix and a caveat that seemed to say 'we're sure they don't mean it now you've sacked Slade'.
I’ve cancelled my standing order and won’t be renewing so I guess you can take from that what you will. It will be a very interesting summer let’s put it that way! |
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It sounds like you're not talking about a racehorse trainer, an accountant or a solicitor Bax. And if it's not a fish merchant, that's even more worrying.
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It wasn’t JF in fairness.
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Warned by whom? Can you share the Bax? (I don't doubt you at all as it rings true with everything else we've heard).
The way it was put to him was 'shut up! Does that narrow it down for you? |
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Something was wrong with the club before we were promoted and it’s spread like wildfire since. Why didn’t the players that got us promoted want to stay and build on it? Tait, Toto, Nolan, Arnold, Amond all left and Paul Hurst wasn’t far behind them. Why? I’ve never seen a promoted club decimate their personal so much. 2 years since that glorious day at Wembley and there’s only 1 player left of that squad. Surely that speaks of how rotten to the core the club is behind the scenes.
Since then the recruitment of both staff and players has been truly awful. To be fair to Fenty, the idea of Bignot was a decent one and most fans on here were on board with it, but the erratic, scattergun recruitment of players killed anything that Hurst had built. Countless midfielders, disjointed formations, square pegs in round holes, it was awful. Then the decision to appoint Slade added to the misery. His recruitment was even worse than Bignot’s! This squad would struggle in the league below in my opinion, and I doubt there’s much Michael Jolley can do with them to turn this around.
It’s just been a succession of disasters and whilst his best interests should never be questioned, Fenty’s footballing knowledge and decision making have almost put a curse on us. Like Bax said all we can do is pray something happens on the pitch between now and the end of the season and we can miraculously scrape enough points to preserve our league status and start again. But that toxic element has to change as well, and that starts with the man at the top. Surely surely surely he has to recognise that now, and even if there isn’t a way for him to leave the club lock stock and barrel then maybe he can retain control but completely step away and have a chief executive run the club. Even if we dodge the drop in May, we’d be certain favourites for it 12 months down the line.
Come what may in the next few months, but something at this rotten club has to change forever!
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Whoever it was it sounds tantamount to bullying. So depressingly familiar to see them get everything wrong, so easy to take every accusation they throw at others and throw it right back at them. You useless bunch.
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It sounds like you're not talking about a racehorse trainer, an accountant or a solicitor Bax. And if it's not a fish merchant, that's even more worrying.
That’s nothing to worry about compared to some of the stuff that’s gone on 😂 |
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Whoever it was it sounds tantamount to bullying. So depressingly familiar to see them get everything wrong, so easy to take every accusation they throw at others and throw it right back at them. You useless bunch.
In fairness I absolutely would not say I was bullied. At all. |
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In fairness I absolutely would not say I was bullied. At all.
Fair enough. Sad to see so many many voices hushed though, whether it's members of the Trust stepping away, or journalists being denied access or just being told to shut up. There seems little room for counter views. |
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The whole board spend their entire existence fire fighting. Too much time and energy is wasted desperately trying to put right all the things that go constantly wrong. This obsession with "toxic" fans and trying desperately to lay the blame elsewhere is just so tiresome. They can't see that the fans are the best thing about this club; the only thing about this club in fact, because a team only exists if people turn up to watch it. Sadly, i'm getting to the stage where i will no longer just keep blindly turning up and watching Groundhog Day all over again, and i'm not the only one. The four season ticket holders in my group are at this present time not renewing next season. We've all had enough of the incompetency we see, season after season. The club can blame the Fishy "minority" all they like, but much as everything else, they are totally deluded if they think the feelings and thoughts of the many are confined to just a few on here. The other three i attend with do not use this board and they all feel the same way. They have alienated everyone around them. Fans, the media, the SLO, the Trust board members, even our club mascot FFS, and somehow it is all the fault of others.
To be facing our third fight to stay in the Football League in 4 full seasons is staggering in it's ineptitude and as fans, we have no influence whatsoever on the decisions that have taken us there. JF is a nice enough guy, but he is totally deluded and spends his entire time deflecting blame away from himself and his cronies on the board. I can confirm what Bax said about his opinion of Operation Promotion because i got the same impression when i met with him. It may well have put pressure on the club, but it worked didn't it? Maybe now is the time to apply some more pressure, because i can't see me carrying on turning up to BP totally reliant on a board that has produced nothing but relegation after relegation and the three worst winless runs in our history. How have we as a set of fans allowed one man and a couple of million quid ruin what has been such a big part of our lives? We need to take back our club somehow, some way. If it meant ripping it up and starting again from scratch, then that is more desirable to me than this constant inertia we now suffer. If there are not big changes soon, the whole club will implode.
Great insight Ginny and alarmingly accurate. Bit in bold - As much as I hate to admit it and will deny it this club is in danger of dying. I think it's inevitable that we will drop into non league and the current culture of the club at the moment would indicate that we could drop again. In reality John and the other members of the gang of 4 are not of the caliber required to "lead" an organisation with so many stake holders, lead being the main word as leadership from the board has been missing for years. They are like many of the optics professionals I work with in that they believe they are good at everything but can only back that up with a little knowledge so in reality they become quite dangerous. We can talk all we like about "ways forward" etc.. but the directors and key decision makers in GTFC have been operating in bunkers and silos for too long know and have a strategy of defend you position at all costs. We are in a situation of trench warfare akin to the Western Front in WW1. The only way to move them out in reality s administration which would be a disaster as the club in whatever form may never come out of the other side. What was very alarming was the comment at the MJ press conference from Philip Day about getting back into league 1 and then ultimately taking "our place" back in the championship. We are in a relegation fight FFS and deluded comments like that don't help. All I hope is that when we go down MJ has enough talent to make us competitive in what due to only 2 promotion places is possibly the hardest pro (kind of league to get out of |
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