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Civvy at last
March 19, 2018, 10:25am

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I just find it strange that the Trust pays for a seat at a table where their views are superfluous.


Which may well be why resignations are so regular.  Once they realise just how superfluous their views are.
Once JF can add another nodding donkey to the table (even at the expense of genuine Trust members), all will be happy at Fenty Towers


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I jokingly remarked  'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football'
'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied
That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked

She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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March 19, 2018, 10:31am
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Being perfectly honest I have not paid enough attention to the Trust or their ways of working. However I think most people could have told them trying to work WITH Fenty is a complete no no, and I am surprised more people involved in the Trust didn't realise this straight away.

The only way for it to have any influence is to be a voice of the fans outside of the boardroom and work for the fans as being inside the boardroom is only working for Fenty.

The Trust should be working on a strategy of ways to help remove Fenty once the season is ended.
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March 19, 2018, 10:42am
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I can't speak for Bax, but I think the Trust became that sort of vehicle when MP handed them the chance to have a rep on the board.  To some people that is a power thrill.  The fact that it's had 4 chairs in a couple of years tells me that they couldn't work with the club and so resigned.  I do think you have a point about them being on a hiding to nothing, but I put that down to the clubs' (ie JF) stance.
They have proved what they are capable of with operation Promotion and the success of the bars.  If you want to put that as relatively small then I think you over estimate the size of GTFC at this moment in time.  Just think what they could achieve if they weren't operating with two hands and one leg tied behind their back.  


The Trust have been a breath of fresh air the past few Seasons BUT the wheels seemed to come off in terms of momentum after Wembley and since then they also appear to have gone backwards? The Trust are at a crossroads the position of the current board is untenable and the Trust must decide whether to support the current regime or lead the way in getting rid and taking the Club forward.
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March 19, 2018, 10:47am
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Just caught up with this thread and it's pretty damning, it almost consolidates our worst fears on how the club is really run. Let's get this season out the way and hope we retain our EFL status then is the time for huge changes, things cannot afford to continue in the same way or the club won't last much longer
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March 19, 2018, 10:53am
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The Trust have been a breath of fresh air the past few Seasons BUT the wheels seemed to come off in terms of momentum after Wembley and since then they also appear to have gone backwards? The Trust are at a crossroads the position of the current board is untenable and the Trust must decide whether to support the current regime or lead the way in getting rid and taking the Club forward.


To be honest, if I had been in Bax and the Trust's position and I'd been told by the major shareholder that the Trust's greatest achievement (Operation Promotion) was the worst thing that had happened to the club then I'm not sure I would know what direction to take.

Certainly, it's a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. If the Club didn't like the (alleged) pressure, then they could have said so at the time but then, like anything else, JF isn't going to turn 110k down.
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March 19, 2018, 11:01am

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In my view the Trust has prostituted itself just for privilege of sitting at the top table with the big boys, and are satisfied with whatever crumbs our great leader deigns to throw their way


Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
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It's a classic case of keep your friends close and your enemies closer. As soon as the Trust were handed those shares, and therefore a new power block was formed at the club, it was quickly assimilated into the organisation. The board view the money handed over by the Trust as belonging to the club anyway and just a token gesture. In effect, they allow the Trust to run the bars for them, and view any profits as money that the club would have received, with or without the Trust involvement. They don't take them seriously at all because they are no threat to them. They need to get out and become a pressure group for change.

At the end of this season, my time with GTFC is done unless there is a big shake up and everyone i know feels the same way. There is definitely a sea change happening among the fans.
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March 19, 2018, 11:30am
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Personally speaking I owe Mariners Trust rather a lot. In the 5 years I spent on the board I grew from just being there for something to do while I learnt to walk again after being paralysed from the waist down to somebody who works in the football industry with lots of scope to develop rather quickly. Are things like Harry the Haddock and Op Pro in my portfolio? of course they are. I am extremely proud of what The Trust has done over the course of it's reformation.

I learnt so much from so many of my colleagues on the board from professionalism to insights into marketing and other industries that all serve me very well now.

So in that respect I think the Trust benefits from people with time to spare and skills that are useful and in return

I haven't read the findings of the questionaire but I hope the current board find it useful and act accordlingly.
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March 19, 2018, 11:32am
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In my view the Trust has prostituted itself just for privilege of sitting at the top table with the big boys, and are satisfied with whatever crumbs our great leader deigns to throw their way


The seat on the board taken at face value was a really good thing.In hindsight it appears to have been a Fenty/Board masterstroke it has strengthened the grip via shares ,OP and the ability to deflect any blame pointing out well the voice of the supporters agreed? I am alarmed at the lack of action and noise and it`s certainly quietened down even more of late when the noise should be like the Lincoln siren.Unless things change I will not renew my Trust membership and I have no plans to visit Blundell Park whilst the current board are in  place unless they come out and have a massive change of strategy.As a long time supporter I fully understand at times they need to make decisions like selling Bogle I am not going to like but I can see the logic in what they do. I don`t like or see the logic in not giving Amond,Toto etc 2 year deals replacing Pearson with an older slower player Clarke on more money.Worst of all selling or letting go players mid season who all the fans agreed where our threat players one to a direct rival and bringing in the type of player/players that relegated us last time.Unforgiveable.
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It's a classic case of keep your friends close and your enemies closer. As soon as the Trust were handed those shares, and therefore a new power block was formed at the club, it was quickly assimilated into the organisation. The board view the money handed over by the Trust as belonging to the club anyway and just a token gesture. In effect, they allow the Trust to run the bars for them, and view any profits as money that the club would have received, with or without the Trust involvement. They don't take them seriously at all because they are no threat to them. They need to get out and become a pressure group for change.

At the end of this season, my time with GTFC is done unless there is a big shake up and everyone i know feels the same way. There is definitely a sea change happening among the fans.


This 100%
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