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MuddyWaters
March 18, 2018, 11:45am
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Even when we beat 10 man Forest Green (which seems like an eternity ago), we looked like a team with no gumption, limited ability and no purpose. Every week, we build ourselves up, what can we change, is there a new formation etc. And yet, every week, there is a crushing inevitability to the outcome.

I honestly felt on the 15th May 2016, the happiest that I've ever felt at a football game, in tears that our club had regained its' league status and ecstatic at the thought that our non-league days were behind us.

Why thefuck are we in this state?
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March 18, 2018, 11:47am
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Even when we beat 10 man Forest Green (which seems like an eternity ago), we looked like a team with no gumption, limited ability and no purpose. Every week, we build ourselves up, what can we change, is there a new formation etc. And yet, every week, there is a crushing inevitability to the outcome.

I honestly felt on the 15th May 2016, the happiest that I've ever felt at a football game, in tears that our club had regained its' league status and ecstatic at the thought that our non-league days were behind us.

Why thefuck are we in this state?


You and I both know the answer to that one, the question is really how do we get rid of him?
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March 18, 2018, 11:52am

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Even when we beat 10 man Forest Green (which seems like an eternity ago), we looked like a team with no gumption, limited ability and no purpose. Every week, we build ourselves up, what can we change, is there a new formation etc. And yet, every week, there is a crushing inevitability to the outcome.

I honestly felt on the 15th May 2016, the happiest that I've ever felt at a football game, in tears that our club had regained its' league status and ecstatic at the thought that our non-league days were behind us.

Why thefuck are we in this state?


A very simple answer to that
John Fenty


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
GOD
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March 18, 2018, 11:56am

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Even when we beat 10 man Forest Green (which seems like an eternity ago), we looked like a team with no gumption, limited ability and no purpose. Every week, we build ourselves up, what can we change, is there a new formation etc. And yet, every week, there is a crushing inevitability to the outcome.

I honestly felt on the 15th May 2016, the happiest that I've ever felt at a football game, in tears that our club had regained its' league status and ecstatic at the thought that our non-league days were behind us.

Why thefuck are we in this state?


What really p1sses me off is that clearly the likes of Fenty, Marley and Day don't run their own businesses with such a poor level of investment, management, strategy, governance and regard for key stake holders. So why do they think that they can get away with operating like that with something that means so much to so many.      


"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style  
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Because not only have we not learned a single lesson from 2010, we’ve made exactly the same mistakes. Exactly the same.

Bloated squad full of journeymen and loanees, a manager he should never have appointed in the first place and then sacked far too late.

We haven’t so much managed to sleepwalk into relegation but been in Freefall and it’s all been so utterly predictable and preventative. Instead of leading and taking action the club is too busy policing social media and stalking the fishy dishing out warnings for stuff they don’t like. In fairness the entire board is culpable. All of them.

JF told me personally Operation Promotion was the worst thing that ever happened because of the pressure it put the club under.

That will be nothing to the pressure if he takes us down again. And there’s no blaming the fans for this one John.
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Because not only have we not learned a single lesson from 2010, we’ve made exactly the same mistakes. Exactly the same.

Bloated squad full of journeymen and loanees, a manager he should never have appointed in the first place and then sacked far too late.

We haven’t so much managed to sleepwalk into relegation but been in Freefall and it’s all been so utterly predictable and preventative. Instead of leading and taking action the club is too busy policing social media and stalking the fishy dishing out warnings for stuff they don’t like. In fairness the entire board is culpable. All of them.

JF told me personally Operation Promotion was the worst thing that ever happened because of the pressure it put the club under.

That will be nothing to the pressure if he takes us down again. And there’s no blaming the fans for this one John.


Good to hear from you Bax (and a very good post!)

So, as the fans organised Operation Promotion, that's the fans' fault too? You really couldn't make it up.
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March 18, 2018, 12:07pm

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If we did go down and John ftenty stayed on I wonder what the season ticket sales would be for the 2018-2019 season and how many fans would stay away in protest.


Grimsby and proud!
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You and I both know the answer to that one, the question is really how do we get rid of him?


The real question for me at the moment is; how can we get out of this mess?
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Because not only have we not learned a single lesson from 2010, we’ve made exactly the same mistakes. Exactly the same.

Bloated squad full of journeymen and loanees, a manager he should never have appointed in the first place and then sacked far too late.

We haven’t so much managed to sleepwalk into relegation but been in Freefall and it’s all been so utterly predictable and preventative. Instead of leading and taking action the club is too busy policing social media and stalking the fishy dishing out warnings for stuff they don’t like. In fairness the entire board is culpable. All of them.

JF told me personally Operation Promotion was the worst thing that ever happened because of the pressure it put the club under.

That will be nothing to the pressure if he takes us down again. And there’s no blaming the fans for this one John.


So so true.

This whole club lacks leadership and charisma. This obsession with policing social media is pathetic when they should have been focussing on day to day improvement of the club. Working on engagement and inclusion. Gradually improving the club in small steps, having a plan yet they led by Fenty have killed GTFC.

I for one really hope he writes off his loans, he has had plenty of freebies in return and cost the club more money many times over with his alienation of fans and potential allies, plus his ridiculous and bigoted decision making.

We need to try and support the players, however bad they are but we need to make Fenty reign untenable. Whatever division we are in next season major change has to happen
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March 18, 2018, 12:41pm
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Old Codger speaks for thousands I think
Great post
I will admit I used to think JF took unfair stick - but not now
Same mistakes repeated over and over

Slade appt was dreadful in every sense - couldn't wait to get his 'mate' back at the club

Wembley 2016 was one of the vest days ever as a GTFC fan - we had everything to look forward to

And here you have to praise Lincoln - they kept the nucleus of their team; winning habit, togetherness, key players etc

I was very fortunate yesterday to be sat behind Dave Gilbert - had a really good chat with him

He dismssed the Buckley days as "the game's changed" (possibly cos he might have been a bit embarrassed) but it hasn't changed that much as it?

Pass the ball, keep the ball, move into space.... goal threat

I won;t single out what he said about who - but his assessment was 100% what we have been saying on here about the squad etc

I feel for Jolley - I hope he;s not judged by the squad he has inherited. Amy young lad would want to get a foothold in the game and I genuinely believe he will try 24/7 to turn this around

Given the chance he could do well next season - wherever we are

From Bragate to Slade to Matt Dean hatchet job to Checkatrade comment to crap club infrastructure to disconnect with fans to awful PR...and the list goes on... we are in a very bad place on and off the pitch

How HAS it come to this but more importantly how has it been allowed to come to this?

From the top....




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