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Grim74
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Anybody else agree with Corbyn? I think he has a point there's still no actual proof that i'm aware of that the hit was carried out by the Kremlin.


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The theory is the nerve agent was made in Russia so if they were not directly involved they did not keep a tight security on it,

So either they were involved or they allowed a 3rd party to tale some out of the country .

It could only have come from one place in Russia.

So they say.


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Something about all this doesn't add up. Why would the Russians choose a method of execution that draws such attention?


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Something about all this doesn't add up. Why would the Russians choose a method of execution that draws such attention?


I agree so it looks like they sold some to a 3rd party or some was stolen from them


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Another related to this,

A man spoke to the TV reporter and said he was in the area at the time,

He was told to use a baby wipe on his phone in case there was any traces of it on his person,

He said , " a baby wipe it's a bloody nerve agent " !!!!!!!!!!!!!  


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Something about all this doesn't add up. Why would the Russians choose a method of execution that draws such attention?


That's what I'm thinking,  he lived alone with no security, it wouldn't of taken much to assassinate him at home and make it look like an accident.

Why would they want to make it so obvious it was them it just doesn't make sense, unless it is a rogue 3rd party trying to stitch Putin up he does have a lot of enemy's.


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Something is very wrong with this and Corbyn seems to be one of the few asking for a more measured and sensible route.  The Labour right who were so sure that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction that could reach us in 45 minutes are shouting against Corbyn yet again. That war has lasted 18 years and counting. The Tories quite happy to rush in and bomb Syria and Libya and look how we'll that's turning out. Would the intelligence industry lie to us again.
The tories have got £800,000 in donations from Putins mates, what are they paying for?
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It's one of those things which will never be proven until whoever actually did it admits it. And that will probably never happen.

The Litvinenko assassination last decade was undoubtedly the Russians because you need a specialised reactor to produce the polonium. These nerve agents, however, can be produced by anyone with the right sort of lab and right sort of knowledge. I don't doubt we could have produced it ourselves - or the French, Yanks, Chinese and several others. But why?

I'd say it was most probably the Russians. I've seen comment that it might be to whip up more Russian nationalism before the elections to help Putin, but he's surely got the election sown up already? Seems very odd to me, but then a lot of what the Russians do is confusing as they really don't seem to think like us.

Probably not the best choice for Corbyn to stick to his guns and point out the obvious regardless of the pile-on from the Tories and their media which will ensure. That said, I bet the Tories are probably pissing themselves laughing at how many of the Blairites have taken the slightest opportunity to put the boot in on Corbyn. If the roles were reversed, the Tories would toe the line because they know all about putting party first.
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Bit premature to be booting Russian spies, sorry diplomats, out of the country. I'd expect more proof. It wouldn't surprise me if it was the Russkies, but you need proof for this sort of thing as the consequences of an escalation are pretty serious.

If it's not officially sanctioned, it might have been a case of 'who would rid me of this troublesome priest' like Henry II and Thomas a Becket. There probably won't be any tears shed, and maybe even a few smirks and quiet chuckles at the daily gathering round the samovar at Vlad Towers.


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Heard a good point made today from a commentator on RT news who mentioned that the nerve agent in question used in Salisbury was developed in the 1980's by Soviet Russia. But then look at what happened last year when Kim Wong-un was accused of having his half brother assassinated at Kuala Lumpur airport, he was murdered with a chemical nerve agent VX which was developed by the British in the 1950s! So by Theresa's May logic should we of been suspects?


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