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Its actually just occurred to me what this message could be about....
prospective manager coming to the game on Saturday maybe.....3000 semi happy fans vs 3000 angry fans , which one might help persuade a target this is the club to come to ?
just a thought.
Good theory. Though JF did say to direct our anger at the board so that's not terribly positive either.
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John Fenty doesn't know when to talk, and when not to talk.
It's not always about the content of what he says, but how he says it.
He desperately needs someone advising him on PR issues because he's making a right hash of everything.
He needs to be honest with himself - he should know that the fans don't trust or believe in the board, so when the board has something to say, the fans simply aren't going to buy into it.
Rallying cries are best done by one of the few players that the fans are still on good terms with (e.g. McKeown).
Saying there will be no more statements and then making a statement the very next day don't help. Saying you back the manager and then sacking him the next day (Newell) don't help either.
Basically, if you keep doing this stuff over time you'll lose trust (where have we heard that line before?).
Trust in Fenty and the board is at an all time low. That's only one part of the reason why no one likes these video statements. The other reason is that the content of them is rubbish too.
Fenty can plead with the fans all he likes but he seems to forget that, unlike the players (who get paid to be at Blundell Park on match day), we have to pay to be there.
The money we give to the club that gets us our match tickets goes to the players. It's an interesting dynamic. That's why I believe players like Scott Vernon - a professional footballer, let's not forget, really needs to be professional and rise above the vitriol.
Easier said than done, I know, but his actions (no matter what the provocation) has created yet another discussion point that highlights what an utter mess we are in.
Fenty's failed to deal with it appropriately. Players are role models and one of them has let the team down. Fenty owes nothing to Vernon - he's already got a nice two-year contract out of us.
Fenty can ask us to behave, tow the line or whatever, but until he changes his ways it'll continue to fall on deaf ears because absolutely no one has any confidence in him or the board.
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John Fenty doesn't know when to talk, and when not to talk.
It's not always about the content of what he says, but how he says it.
He desperately needs someone advising him on PR issues because he's making a right hash of everything.
He needs to be honest with himself - he should know that the fans don't trust or believe in the board, so when the board has something to say, the fans simply aren't going to buy into it.
Rallying cries are best done by one of the few players that the fans are still on good terms with (e.g. McKeown).
Saying there will be no more statements and then making a statement the very next day don't help. Saying you back the manager and then sacking him the next day (Newell) don't help either.
Basically, if you keep doing this stuff over time you'll lose trust (where have we heard that line before?).
Trust in Fenty and the board is at an all time low. That's only one part of the reason why no one likes these video statements. The other reason is that the content of them is rubbish too.
Fenty can plead with the fans all he likes but he seems to forget that, unlike the players (who get paid to be at Blundell Park on match day), we have to pay to be there.
The money we give to the club that gets us our match tickets goes to the players. It's an interesting dynamic. That's why I believe players like Scott Vernon - a professional footballer, let's not forget, really needs to be professional and rise above the vitriol.
Easier said than done, I know, but his actions (no matter what the provocation) has created yet another discussion point that highlights what an utter mess we are in.
Fenty's failed to deal with it appropriately. Players are role models and one of them has let the team down. Fenty owes nothing to Vernon - he's already got a nice two-year contract out of us.
Fenty can ask us to behave, tow the line or whatever, but until he changes his ways it'll continue to fall on deaf ears because absolutely no one has any confidence in him or the board.
Can’t you approach him and give him some guidance you clearly understand this subject
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I dont think for one minute JF meant no more statements period he probably meant no more statements on that particular scenario maybe.
I think JF has been forced to come out with additional statements based on fan protest, player abuse, media. Im sure JF loves a quality statement he's a politician after all 😉
I know onething i dont care how many statements the club come out with im more concerned about other things like 3pts please. 🤗
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Good theory. Though JF did say to direct our anger at the board so that's not terribly positive either.
direct anger at him or the board but away from BP he said
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I watched it, but it wasn't directed at me, because i turn up, game in game out and support the team. I've never booed, jeered, shouted at players or management, ever. What i would like to see is the team getting behind the fans for once, by erm......actually being any good. Most people set off to the game in the hope that it will be a good game of football, some exciting stuff will happen, some goals will be scored and hopefully their team will prevail now and again. They don't set off to the game with the express intention of booing and jeering their own players, management and board of directors. Even the gobsh1tes who can't help themselves will be mostly muted if they don't have too much to complain about.
Unfortunately, game after game, season after season of poor to mediocre fare, on and off the pitch, takes it's toll eventually and even the most patient of fans lose their cool. It's not unique to GTFC and no amount of pleading will change that. Only performances, goals and excitement will.
More action, less talk please.
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I agree with that Ginny
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All this baloney at the end of the day just win a game you will be surprised how many fans we appreciate that and warm to the players.
People don't pay hard earned cash just to see us lose we ALL want to see us win a friggin match and break this cycle.
This "them and us" culture is what is destroying our club.
The players do feel the toxic atmosphere but I hope they realize the fans are the lifeline of this club WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING.
I have no axe whatsoever to grind with any GTFC player believe it or not John and certainly don't need reminding about supporting them.
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I watched it, but it wasn't directed at me, because i turn up, game in game out and support the team. I've never booed, jeered, shouted at players or management, ever. What i would like to see is the team getting behind the fans for once, by erm......actually being any good. Most people set off to the game in the hope that it will be a good game of football, some exciting stuff will happen, some goals will be scored and hopefully their team will prevail now and again. They don't set off to the game with the express intention of booing and jeering their own players, management and board of directors. Even the gobsh1tes who can't help themselves will be mostly muted if they don't have too much to complain about.
Unfortunately, game after game, season after season of poor to mediocre fare, on and off the pitch, takes it's toll eventually and even the most patient of fans lose their cool. It's not unique to GTFC and no amount of pleading will change that. Only performances, goals and excitement will.
More action, less talk please.
You've hit the nail on the head. I used to be excited about going to the match. Really looked forward to it during the week. Not anymore. I can't "make" myself enjoy the game, the performance. I can't pretend I'm watching a good game of football, if I ain't. Just like I can't pretend the club I care about is being run by a progressive, professional group of men, who have the supporters interests at heart. Because to believe so would mean I am a deluded fool. If I'm angry with what I am seeing, then I'm angry. Why pretend to be otherwise. Speaks volumes that Fenty is now trying to control the behaviour of the fans. This whole sorry saga has gone too far. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is sick to the bone of his mishandling of everything GTFC. He just needs to go.
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I watched it, but it wasn't directed at me, because i turn up, game in game out and support the team. I've never booed, jeered, shouted at players or management, ever. What i would like to see is the team getting behind the fans for once, by erm......actually being any good. Most people set off to the game in the hope that it will be a good game of football, some exciting stuff will happen, some goals will be scored and hopefully their team will prevail now and again. They don't set off to the game with the express intention of booing and jeering their own players, management and board of directors. Even the gobsh1tes who can't help themselves will be mostly muted if they don't have too much to complain about.
Unfortunately, game after game, season after season of poor to mediocre fare, on and off the pitch, takes it's toll eventually and even the most patient of fans lose their cool. It's not unique to GTFC and no amount of pleading will change that. Only performances, goals and excitement will.
More action, less talk please.
This, absolutely.
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