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Jarmo.Is.God
February 19, 2018, 3:27pm

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Telegraph seem to think it will be Wilko or Askey.

Lets hope Askey gets his chance.

His post match interview over the weekend was something that really got my attention:

They’re a great group of lads and it’s great to work with them. They’re all good characters and that’s what I’ve always tried to do at Macclesfield, get decent lads who work hard and want to do well. Despite what’s going on off the field, they’ve stuck together, there’s no moaning and they just want to achieve something as a group. Their aim is to go and play in League football.
We have got good players, who can play at a higher level and it’s full credit to them for the way they’ve conducted themselves all season.

i know a few that would fit in that category or decent lads who work hard and want to do well:
Macca
Pearson
Disley
Etc....

They are 4 points top, with a game in hand, and probably have a bottom 6 budget in that league.

So for me, it would be a very good appointment, as long as he can work hard with the crap we currently have, and keep us up
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Reading their article it doesn’t seem that the Wilko or Askey choice is based on anything other than bookie’s odds or the odds being suspended. Top quality journalism as per.


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Reading their article it doesn’t seem that the Wilko or Askey choice is based on anything other than bookie’s odds or the odds being suspended. Top quality journalism as per.


Yes its really really poor they cannot dig some information out. I get the impression they are not that bothered to be honest.
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Neither of these choices are inspiring - I'd love to hear that we have gone for someone like Sami Hyppia, or even Teddy Sheringham - guys that have 'recently' played at a higher level, have contacts in the game, have managed on a budget, and can inspire some pretty dejected players.

The recipe for survival this season is simply to inject some enthusiasm into the squad, they need to know that they are playing for their careers - being associated with a 12 game (or more) winless streak will not help them find a new club in the summer. Stepping up and showing some heart, which will bring "footballing luck" will.


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Quoted from Will Haddock
Neither of these choices are inspiring - I'd love to hear that we have gone for someone like Sami Hyppia, or even Teddy Sheringham - guys that have 'recently' played at a higher level, have contacts in the game, have managed on a budget, and can inspire some pretty dejected players.

The recipe for survival this season is simply to inject some enthusiasm into the squad, they need to know that they are playing for their careers - being associated with a 12 game (or more) winless streak will not help them find a new club in the summer. Stepping up and showing some heart, which will bring "footballing luck" will.


This has got to be wind up surely? Hyypia has no knowledge of the English lower leagues and hasn't managed a team for nearly two years. If that wasn't enough, there is no chance of us getting a manager who was in charge of Bayer Leverkusen for two years  .

As for Sheringham, he was an abject failure at Stevenage two seasons ago, why would he be any better here? Why would he be better than Askey who has a decent record on a shoestring budget? What an utterly bizarre suggestion.
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This has got to be wind up surely? Hyypia has no knowledge of the English lower leagues and hasn't managed a team for nearly two years. If that wasn't enough, there is no chance of us getting a manager who was in charge of Bayer Leverkusen for two years  .

As for Sheringham, he was an abject failure at Stevenage two seasons ago, why would he be any better here? Why would he be better than Askey who has a decent record on a shoestring budget? What an utterly bizarre suggestion.


Yeah, but we could play Sheringham up front to increase our firepower.
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Yeah, but we could play Sheringham up front to increase our firepower.


Would definitely be our quickest forward.
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flipping god help us if this is the choice


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Tbh I wouldn't mind Askey.
Always thought our games against Macclesfield were a good advert for the conference and with a bigger budget to play with, I'd be more than happy...


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flipping god help us if this is the choice


Tbf you wouldn't be happy if it was between Mourinho & Guardiola!
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My initial reaction is neither of them tbh.

Even taking the result on Saturday aside Wilko simply does not inspire me at all. Askey is doing alright at Macc this season but apart form that has achieved nothing of note.

When Slade was thankfully relieved of his duties there were a number of names being mentioned  McCall...Brown....

I cannot help but feel we are going for the cheaper options AGAIN. i fully appreciate at our level there will be budget constraints but when will Fenty finally wake up and realise consistently going for the cheaper (=unproven) option usually ends badly. We have gone for cheaper (inferior) players and as the say you get what you pay for. We need an experienced manager with some kind of track record to get much more out of this group. Wilko is not that guy....is Askey??

Town simply must survive this season. We are in free-fall right now.  As of now we ARE the worst team in the league. We have struggled to score all season and now our ageing defence is conceding goals with increasing regularity. Another relegation is something I am not sure we will recover from. And then Fenty your benign loans will be flipping worthless.
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Tbf you wouldn't be happy if it was between Mourinho & Guardiola!


Well according to you the choice between Wilko & the other bloke is a good one.
Is it you who has been advising Fenty on his disastrous managerial appointments???


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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If it is a choice between Paul Wilkinson and John Askey, I choose the latter every time. Considering the financial constraints that it has become clear he is working under at Macclesfield, he has done an excellent job there. For as long as the present regime is in place, our manager will have to work under tight budgetary restrictions. I suspect Askey has more chance of doing that, and building a competitive side in the process, than any of the higher profile candidates that have been mentioned. Wilkinson had a public job interview on Saturday and, in my opinion, he failed badly.
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Why is Askey a cheap option?

Because he manages the league below?

Slade was probably our highest paid manager in a long time, look how that went.

There is no such thing as a cheap option
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If it is Askey, won't the answer to the question be both of them, rather than either/or? Wilko will probably keep his assistant job won't he? He does have a lot of experience and contacts at a higher level.
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Wilko will probably keep his assistant job won't he?  


I hope not!


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Well according to you the choice between Wilko & the other bloke is a good one.
Is it you who has been advising Fenty on his disastrous managerial appointments???


Please point out where I have suggested the choice between 'Wilko & the other bloke' is a good one?

If you are going to have a go at least gets your facts right!
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I hope Wilko doesn't get the job because I think he has been part of the problem. I'm sure he will have had some input into team selection and he has also been involved with some of the recruitment. IMO he needs to go and we need a manager who picks his own assistant. We need a manager and assistant pairing who understand each other and have a common view on tactics/ player selection. AB's pairing with Arthur Mann is a perfect example and probably no coincidence that when Mann retired from football AB seemed to lose his effectiveness and direction.


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Where is the "neither" option?


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The more I think about it the more I would like Uwe Rosler. Not sure he would come but has a decent record and experience. Lost 6 on the bounce at Fleetwood but his overall record is very good
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Quoted from Will Haddock
Neither of these choices are inspiring - I'd love to hear that we have gone for someone like Sami Hyppia, or even Teddy Sheringham - guys that have 'recently' played at a higher level, have contacts in the game, have managed on a budget, and can inspire some pretty dejected players.

The recipe for survival this season is simply to inject some enthusiasm into the squad, they need to know that they are playing for their careers - being associated with a 12 game (or more) winless streak will not help them find a new club in the summer. Stepping up and showing some heart, which will bring "footballing luck" will.


Why do people incessantly think that just because you were a success in the Premier League as a player instantly makes you a successful manager. Management skills take years to develop and in our current situation we need someone to hit the floor running so that they can turn round our current poor form. For me Stuart McCall would be the best option but now seems out of the question. From looking at the names that have been doing the rounds I'm not sure who can save us!!      


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