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Quoted from grimsby pete

Sack them all and play the youths for the rest of the season,

At least they will put more effort in.

The only way we will stay up is that there are 2 teams worse than us,

AND

They must be really rubbish to be worse than us.

Yep that's the solution Pete - let's place all our hopes of survival in the hands of a team consisting on untested 16/17 year olds!!!!

FFS!

Quoted from petethemariner

Absolutely wrong in my opinion! Players are 'professional' and should act in a ' professional' way, they are not Sunday league players,there have been countless far better GTFC   players  than this present rabble in my 50 years of  supporting,that have received often unfair abuse that  haven't responded in this way, it doesn't make unfair abuse right, but players need to be above that sort of response, i wasn't there, but if true the players involved should face serious consequences, it is mthem that are not  performing, not the fans!

We’ll have to agree to disagree. IMO you give someone abuse, you can expect to get it back. I absolutely do not subscribe to this notion that you can sling all sorts of personal abuse at someone because they’re a professional football player.

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

Yep that's the solution Pete - let's place all our hopes of survival in the hands of a team consisting on untested 16/17 year olds!!!!

FFS!

At least they might actually care about GTFC and give 100% for the club

Be honest a 16/17 year old giving 100% is a damn sight better bet than the twits who turned out today and gave 10% (and most of that was running on and off the pitch at H/T and F/T) Todays team are not untested - they have been well tested and found to have failed abysmally

Quoted from petethemariner

Absolutely wrong in my opinion! Players are 'professional' and should act in a ' professional' way, they are not Sunday league players,there have been countless far better GTFC   players  than this present rabble in my 50 years of  supporting,that have received often unfair abuse that  haven't responded in this way, it doesn't make unfair abuse right, but players need to be above that sort of response, i wasn't there, but if true the players involved should face serious consequences, it is mthem that are not  performing, not the fans!

So because they're 'professional', that gives random Joe the right to verbally abuse them and they're supposed to stand there 'professionally' of course, and take it!!

That's ridiculous! Too many 'fans' think they have the right to say whatever they want to players nowadays because they pay their £18 entrance fee!! If they spoke to somebody in the street like that they'd get knocked out!

I went to a restaurant last week and in my opinion the chef took a little too long preparing my food, and when it eventually did come I was not happy with it at all. Could I have gone into the kitchen and called him a waste of space and told him he was not fit to wear those chefs whites? I could also have used some foul and abusive language, maybe some hand gestures to back up my displeasure and this chef would have to stand there and take it.... Because, let's remember... Hes a 'professional' chef!

I don't know what was said to make Vernon react the way he did but if it was anything like the abuse and disrespect he's received at Blundell Park over the last few months then actually I don't blame him. I'm not having that whilst warming up, he just decided to flick the male masturbator sign at our travelling support for no reason whatsoever... Anybody who thinks he did with no provocation at all needs their head testing!

Some people think they can dish out whatever abuse they want but react with such shock and outrage when they receive it back!!

FFS!

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

So because they're 'professional', that gives random Joe the right to verbally abuse them and they're supposed to stand there 'professionally' of course, and take it!!

That's ridiculous! Too many 'fans' think they have the right to say whatever they want to players nowadays because they pay their £18 entrance fee!! If they spoke to somebody in the street like that they'd get knocked out!

I went to a restaurant last week and in my opinion the chef took a little too long preparing my food, and when it eventually did come I was not happy with it at all. Could I have gone into the kitchen and called him a waste of space and told him he was not fit to wear those chefs whites? I could also have used some foul and abusive language, maybe some hand gestures to back up my displeasure and this chef would have to stand there and take it.... Because, let's remember... Hes a 'professional' chef!

I don't know what was said to make Vernon react the way he did but if it was anything like the abuse and disrespect he's received at Blundell Park over the last few months then actually I don't blame him. I'm not having that whilst warming up, he just decided to flick the male masturbator sign at our travelling support for no reason whatsoever... Anybody who thinks he did with no provocation at all needs their head testing!

Some people think they can dish out whatever abuse they want but react with such shock and outrage when they receive it back!!

FFS!

Sadly your chef analogy isn't a good one. You send crap food back and tell the waiter how poor the food is, the Chef has to cook another meal, this time to the standards expected. The players have had enough time to put right past failings.

If you give it - be prepare to get some in return. If you can`t take it in return, don`t be a p r i c k in the first place.
Easy as that.
What is upsetting is how this "team" played on the pitch. A new manager needs to be a very special person to get us out of this mess. In his contract he should be awarded a very big bonus if he keeps us from going down. Conference is a very real possibility now.

Quoted from Marinerz93

Sadly your chef analogy isn't a good one. You send crap food back and tell the waiter how poor the food is, the Chef has to cook another meal, this time to the standards expected. The players have had enough time to put right past failings.

Yes, but you go and give the chef dogs abuse, you’re probably going to get something back. Actually, you’d probably get a smack.

We all know how many male masturbators go to away matches. You think an old pro like Scott Vernon is just going to give a male masturbator sign for no reason and to disrespect every fan there? Again, grow the intercourse up and stop crying. Embarrassing.

(That isn’t aimed at you btw, just the chef bit!)

Quoted from sam gy

Player gets abuse off a load of people over a long period of time. Finally gives something back to someone and grown men can’t take it. Grow up.

I’ve no doubt that someone was probably being a male masturbator to him. You know full well he isn’t calling 800 fans that have made the trip male masturbators.

Fair play to him for standing up for himself, I’ve no doubt someone overstepped the mark for him to do that.

I wasn't at that end of the stand so didn't see or hear anything, but it's not about grown men getting upset, there were young fans there and no matter what crap they were getting he shouldn't have responded like that.

If you can't see that then shame on you.

Quoted from sam gy

Yes, but you go and give the chef dogs abuse, you’re probably going to get something back. Actually, you’d probably get a smack.

We all know how many male masturbators go to away matches. You think an old pro like Scott Vernon is just going to give a male masturbator sign for no reason and to disrespect every fan there? Again, grow the intercourse up and stop crying. Embarrassing.

(That isn’t aimed at you btw, just the chef bit!)

No you are wrong there, a good chef wouldn't  give you a 'smack' he would find out what's wrong with his food and put it right! I do not condone vindictive behaviour against any one player, I personally have never done it,Vernon isn't  the reason we are where we are, but considering he is a striker with  record of 4 goals in 50 games perhaps he should  keep his responses a bit lower key.

There are families in attendance..
"Dad, what does that mean?"