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1mickylyons
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Is being the Manager of GTFC a good job?

Well there are only 92 jobs available and nearly half of those are often given to overseas coaches so there are around 50 jobs available as and when they arise to prospective Manager`s.We then have a merry go round of ex Manager`s who at some point may have done well and these tend to get hired first and foremost.A lot of Clubs seem to appoint internally and a few give a go to up and coming or new start Manager`s so where do Town fit in?

2017-18 Slade 2 Experienced Manager and previous Grimsby Manager hired to steady the ship took over a midtable side with a huge squad and arguably made it worse sacked after 12 Months

2016-17 Marcus Bignot An exciting prospect who had done well on a shoestring at Solihull brought in to take over a Play Off chasing side with a remit to stay up.Sold the star striker for good money and set about building a squad for the following Season.Took his eye off the league table and some alarming performances started to spring up amidst tales of player unrest.Let go after 6 Months

2011-16 Paul Hurst originally turned up with his mate Shouty then went it alone .Consistantly got the Club into Play Offs and was unlucky not to gain Promotion a year earlier when he was robbed by a customary Refereeing gaffe in the Play Off Final.Had a fractious relationship with sections of the home support but should be duly noted he was backed with record season ticket sales and away followings exceeding 4k in his last Season.Decided to quit and move up a league with Shrewsbury.

2009-2011 Neil Woods Promoted from within after being successful with the Juniors and in bizarre circumstances due to a terrible run of results as caretaker which continued into his spell as permanent Boss and saw the team go 26 games without a win and ultimately fall out the football league after 130 years.Given the chance to fire the Club back but just could not get it right.

2008-2009 Mike Newell Grimsby fans demanded a big name and got it after a series of internal appointments that had gone nowhere.This decision proved a nightmare and things got even worse with a never ending catalogue of journeymen signed who did nothing but steal a wage.

2006-2008 Buckley 3 Got off to a good start in his first season with exciting loanee Martin Patterson netting goals.Worked another minor miracle in getting a very young team to Wembley the following season but the league form was patchy at best and Buckley gambled all his eggs in one basket financially with the signing of Martin Butler who repaid him with an act of treachery.A poor run either side of Wembley saw Buckley sacked.
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In fairness, we seem to have tried all avenues when you pigeon hole it like that. Hurst and Bignot being the up and coming option, Woods being the internal, Buckley tried n tested, Slade being the repeat offender and Newell being the so called big name.
I'm not sure what sort of a club we are nowadays and looking long term I would go up and coming but I'm not sure which way we should go in the immediate.



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In fairness, we seem to have tried all avenues when you pigeon hole it like that. Hurst and Bignot being the up and coming option, Woods being the internal, Buckley tried n tested, Slade being the repeat offender and Newell being the so called big name.
I'm not sure what sort of a club we are nowadays and looking long term I would go up and coming but I'm not sure which way we should go in the immediate.



My point is it must be a fairly attractive job if you do your homework on the Club.Fenty for whatever faults he has usually gives a Manager far more time than the fans want that Manager to have with the possible exception of Bignot.The fanbase when onside is capable of averaging 5k which is top 6 in League 2 and midway League 1.The much maligned GY/NE Lincs area is far better than the doom mongers would have you believe in terms of location Nationally but does suffer Geographically being out on a limb.The right man with a 2-3 year plan could do very well here and use it as a stepping stone to better things.We saw this with Hurst and Lincoln the Cowley`s in my opinion League 2 is awful standard wise and any half decent side can challenge for the Play Offs. This is a golden opportunity for someone.
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As at all clubs it is all about results. If the groundsman was put in charge and team was winning everyone would be happy.
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A chairman who can’t afford to put much money in and wants out, and fans who don’t settle for anything that isn’t Buckley’s liquid football if the 90s.

Perhaps not.

BUT, get it right someway, somehow and get everyone behind you then it could be a great job. There’s a lot of hard word to be done to get to that stage.


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It depends on so many things Micky.

Timing is one. Is it a panic appointment? What is the league position? How many games to go? Is there a long term plan?

There are no transfer opportunities until the summer so who is on the playing staff is important. The summer budget and clear out plans will figure but not yet.

Then there is the small matter of which candidate is available and who can be bought. Seemed to me that Slade was just about the only sensible option last year but today there may be 3 or 4 reasonable possibles apart from Wilkie and some of the up and comers from non-league.

Of course there is question of the money man too, could a prospective manager work with someone whose track record for bad decisions is there to see in your post?

Lastly the really key question - “Do you feel lucky, punk?”



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TRRFC in a lot of ways the not being able to bring in new players will help especially some one like Wilko who should know the players available inside out.Not for you and I but surely the sensible thing for Town to do here is see what reaction they get Saturday if it`s positive they can dangle Wilko a carrot and that in turn moves to the players.If it`s the same old rubbish new broom required ASAP with the points already gained Town should be capable of staying up but were all getting nervous.

Great question I don`t feel lucky but I feel 100 times more optimistic than I did at 5pm Saturday
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How is becoming a manager of a club about to be relegated out of the football league an attractive job to anyone but the desperate?


Quoted from John Fenty, April 2013
I deconstructed the flag to the point where it was safe and couldn’t be considered a danger
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It depends on so many things Micky.

Timing is one. Is it a panic appointment? What is the league position? How many games to go? Is there a long term plan?

There are no transfer opportunities until the summer so who is on the playing staff is important. The summer budget and clear out plans will figure but not yet.

Then there is the small matter of which candidate is available and who can be bought. Seemed to me that Slade was just about the only sensible option last year but today there may be 3 or 4 reasonable possibles apart from Wilkie and some of the up and comers from non-league.

Of course there is question of the money man too, could a prospective manager work with someone whose track record for bad decisions is there to see in your post?

Lastly the really key question - “Do you feel lucky, punk?”



I wonder how much relevance JF would have if Town were flying high.I mean if he sanctioned the cash for whatever player`s the manager wanted or the budget was enough to soak up said transfers JF could fade away and not sure when you say bad decisions which of them have affected a Manager?
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How is becoming a manager of a club about to be relegated out of the football league an attractive job to anyone but the desperate?


Not sure how you come to that conclusion when however sh1t Town have been half a dozen others are still worse off? Yes it could happen but % wise Town are still in control of their own destiny JUST
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