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WOZOFGRIMSBY
February 12, 2018, 6:45pm

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I think situations like we've just had, haven't put JF in a good light. Ever since the catastrophic fans forum, the club has ducked every question and basically stuck their head in the sand.

As supporters, we need to know that the club are listening and those in the upper echelon are actually taking notice. Communication is absolutely vital so, this coming from JF is a welcome relief.

Now, let's keep it going John, don't listen to your mates on the board about what you should think. You are a supporter of this club as well as the rest of us. It's time to show that passion and comradeship with your fellow fan.


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Quoted from Mariner_09
He said:

- it was a difficult decision.
- that hard work is all well and good but sometimes it isn't enough.
- we haven't had "lady luck" in recent weeks and that the penalty decision was questionable on Saturday.
- Slade cannot say that the board haven't given him time to turn things around but the form has been too poor. He added that fans want "knee jerk reactions" and the board has to "hold its cool".
- They've had a whole raft of applications, they're going through them and, interestingly, will proceed to making approaches for permission to speak to candidates.
- said he didn't reveal the length of contract because sections of the media "ridiculed" a 6 month rolling contract suggesting it didn't give suitable protection.
- he said it works for the club and he's had nightmares with managers on 3 year contracts and he has never known a manager turn down an appointment because of a rolling contract.
- he said the atmosphere against Cheltenham was better, the Fenty out stuff was channelled in the right manner it and needed to be maintained so results would improve.


For that read Burnsey. Never backward in having a pop at JF.
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Good interview but sounds like wilko is in with a shout if we get a couple of quick wins.


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I think a 6 month rollling contract is a good decision to start with, but sometimes you have to be flexible, a good manager is hard to come by and when you get a consistently good manager over time, who may feel he deserves more security, and more backing with the sort of support staff that other teams in professional football have, then that should be considered.

the cost of not at least giving Hurst a 12 month rolling contract and a strength/conditioning coach has had to be paid out many times more with all the managerial and squad balls-ups since.

If we had, in some alternate reality, appointed Danny Cowley to the job 18 months ago, we would not have held on to him as Fenty would have kept him on a short contract and he would have been snapped up. Lincoln soon got him on a 5 yr deal and now only a championship club can afford to buy out the contract most likely. In all fairness Fentys way is safer at preventing the catastrophe of a manager who can't be sacked but does mean success is unlikely to be sustained as any decent manager will soon be on his way. However, if even when you have a catastrophically bad manager (like Slade, AND woods) you delay pulling the trigger for so long that kind of ruins the advantage of such contracts. He does seem to have learned a little bit in that he didnt give Slade the truly insane length of time he gave woods tho.
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Quoted from Mariner_09
He said:

- it was a difficult decision.
- that hard work is all well and good but sometimes it isn't enough.
- we haven't had "lady luck" in recent weeks and that the penalty decision was questionable on Saturday.
- Slade cannot say that the board haven't given him time to turn things around but the form has been too poor. He added that fans want "knee jerk reactions" and the board has to "hold its cool".
- They've had a whole raft of applications, they're going through them and, interestingly, will proceed to making approaches for permission to speak to candidates.
- said he didn't reveal the length of contract because sections of the media "ridiculed" a 6 month rolling contract suggesting it didn't give suitable protection.
- he said it works for the club and he's had nightmares with managers on 3 year contracts and he has never known a manager turn down an appointment because of a rolling contract.
- he said the atmosphere against Cheltenham was better, the Fenty out stuff was channelled in the right manner it and needed to be maintained so results would improve.


Not shooting the messenger here M09, but if other people's opinion never seems to bother him. More inconsistency.


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Very informative. John always wears his heart on his sleeve.


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We have decent backing for League 2 in terms of finance.  I wouldn't give anyone more than an initial 6 month deal, but might give a year if they are looking ok after 6 months.

If you won't come as a Manager on a 6 month (rolling) contract then how much faith in your own ability do you have?

If you can't back yourself to do a job over 6 months then I don't want you!
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I think a 6 month rollling contract is a good decision to start with, but sometimes you have to be flexible, a good manager is hard to come by and when you get a consistently good manager over time, who may feel he deserves more security, and more backing with the sort of support staff that other teams in professional football have, then that should be considered.

the cost of not at least giving Hurst a 12 month rolling contract and a strength/conditioning coach has had to be paid out many times more with all the managerial and squad balls-ups since.

If we had, in some alternate reality, appointed Danny Cowley to the job 18 months ago, we would not have held on to him as Fenty would have kept him on a short contract and he would have been snapped up. Lincoln soon got him on a 5 yr deal and now only a championship club can afford to buy out the contract most likely. In all fairness Fentys way is safer at preventing the catastrophe of a manager who can't be sacked but does mean success is unlikely to be sustained as any decent manager will soon be on his way. However, if even when you have a catastrophically bad manager (like Slade, AND woods) you delay pulling the trigger for so long that kind of ruins the advantage of such contracts. He does seem to have learned a little bit in that he didnt give Slade the truly insane length of time he gave woods tho.


Good post. Lincoln are in the fortunate position, for now, of having a owner who is willing and able to put money into the club. He also recognised the potential of the Cowley brothers but to be fair to the GTFC board they also recognised the potential of Scott and Hurst. Even though that partnership didn't work out they did persevere with Hurst and he did get us back into Division 2. The big difference between the clubs then became obvious. Lincoln gave the Cowley brothers a long contract and money to spend on decent players. The board of Grimsby Town would't give Hurst  a better contract or more money to bring in decent players. Hurst left, Bignot came in, which didn't seem a bad choice, but for some reason after the club reached the magical 50 points it all went Pete Tong.I have never got to grips with happened when we reached that magical figure but I do think there are reasons why he wasn't allowed to push for the play off places, which  became more obvious after the convincing win at Blackpool and him then being sacked.  I can't be arsed to go into the latest debacle with Slade because there are several thousands recent posts relating to it. At the end of the day clubs and businesses can only go forward if there is somebody willing to invest in the future of the club. We haven't had that for many seasons and until we do we will flirt with relegation and ultimately be relegated again into non league because the present  directors don't seem to the have the finances or the wherewithal to take the club any further.
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Quoted from Mariner_09
- he said the atmosphere against Cheltenham was better, the Fenty out stuff was channelled in the right manner it and needed to be maintained so results would improve.


Respect to John for this.
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Quoted from Mariner_09
He said:

- it was a difficult decision.
- that hard work is all well and good but sometimes it isn't enough.
- we haven't had "lady luck" in recent weeks and that the penalty decision was questionable on Saturday.
- Slade cannot say that the board haven't given him time to turn things around but the form has been too poor. He added that fans want "knee jerk reactions" and the board has to "hold its cool".
- They've had a whole raft of applications, they're going through them and, interestingly, will proceed to making approaches for permission to speak to candidates.
- said he didn't reveal the length of contract because sections of the media "ridiculed" a 6 month rolling contract suggesting it didn't give suitable protection.
- he said it works for the club and he's had nightmares with managers on 3 year contracts and he has never known a manager turn down an appointment because of a rolling contract.
- he said the atmosphere against Cheltenham was better, the Fenty out stuff was channelled in the right manner it and needed to be maintained so results would improve.

My knee's been jerking for quite a few years now and no mistake.
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