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Pure guesswork on BetVictor's part of course but this is the first set of odds I have seen so far...
[url]https://www.betvictor.com/en-gb/sports/football-specials/manager-specials/coupons/982100/126456098/916255200/0/0/PE/0/0/0/0/0[/url]
18:00 Fri 27 Apr Next Permanent Grimsby Manager Outright - Specials
Paul Wilkinson 3/1 Gary Caldwell 6/1 Robbie Stockdale 6/1 Phil Brown 8/1 Stuart McCall 8/1 Robbie Neilson 10/1 John Askey 10/1 Neil Redfearn 12/1 Dougie Freedman 12/1 Brian McDermott 12/1 Lee Clark 12/1 Chris Lucketti 12/1 Sean O'Driscoll 14/1 Billy Davies 14/1 John Sheridan 16/1 Paul Ince 16/1 Mark McGhee 20/1 Dave Penny 20/1 Gary Megson 20/1 Sol Campbell 20/1 Adrian Pennock 20/1 Michael Brown 20/1 Shaun Derry 20/1 Michael Appleton 25/1
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Pure guesswork on BetVictor's part of course but this is the first set of odds I have seen so far...
[url]https://www.betvictor.com/en-gb/sports/football-specials/manager-specials/coupons/982100/126456098/916255200/0/0/PE/0/0/0/0/0[/url]
18:00 Fri 27 Apr Next Permanent Grimsby Manager Outright - Specials
Paul Wilkinson 3/1 Gary Caldwell 6/1 Robbie Stockdale 6/1 Phil Brown 8/1 Stuart McCall 8/1 Robbie Neilson 10/1 John Askey 10/1 Neil Redfearn 12/1 Dougie Freedman 12/1 Brian McDermott 12/1 Lee Clark 12/1 Chris Lucketti 12/1 Sean O'Driscoll 14/1 Billy Davies 14/1 John Sheridan 16/1 Paul Ince 16/1 Mark McGhee 20/1 Dave Penny 20/1 Gary Megson 20/1 Sol Campbell 20/1 Adrian Pennock 20/1 Michael Brown 20/1 Shaun Derry 20/1 Michael Appleton 25/1
Some of them look like they’ve been drawn up after a quick look on here!
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February 12, 2018, 7:57am |
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Honestly, I think the best action right now would be to remain as stable as possible.
I'd just let Wilko do the job until the end of the season and solidify our league status.
He already knows the players and who's performing and who isn't.
Once the season is over and we're still in the league then we should look for the permanent replacement.
Whether that would be Wilkinson himself or someone else I don't know but I'd rather we give ourselves time to appoint the new permanent manager.
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February 12, 2018, 8:05am |
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£10 on P.Brown at 8/1 please with Wilko as his assistant
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February 12, 2018, 8:08am |
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Honestly, I think the best action right now would be to remain as stable as possible.
I'd just let Wilko do the job until the end of the season and solidify our league status.
He already knows the players and who's performing and who isn't.
Once the season is over and we're still in the league then we should look for the permanent replacement.
Whether that would be Wilkinson himself or someone else I don't know but I'd rather we give ourselves time to appoint the new permanent manager.
You can only have stability if you have decent results. In my opinion it's silly to talk about Wilko until the end of the season. He's got something to prove. If he steadies the ship and we pick up points in the next two or three games we could consider him, but more of the same and we'll need him out of the way sharpish. I would hope we are looking for a permanent replacement right now, and with urgency.
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February 12, 2018, 8:22am |
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£10 on P.Brown at 8/1 please with Wilko as his assistant
Have a read of the Southend catalogue of incidents under Brown's reign. We dont want another 'fruitloop'
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February 12, 2018, 8:25am |
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Have a read of the Southend catalogue of incidents under Brown's reign.
We dont want another 'fruitloop'
That's what I mean-we are bound to sign him
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February 12, 2018, 9:14am |
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Ok, put yourselves in a potential managers position. We are a team that could, I said could, be relegated, your in a stable job and not particularly wanting to move. GTFC come along next week and ask you to join them, we still get relegated , why would anyone want that scenario. That's my view on it all, Wilko will have to save us and I hope he will, then and only then we can appoint a new leader or they give it to Wilko after he's done a fantastic job and won 12 out of 12! ( Walter Mitty rules ok)
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Ok, put yourselves in a potential managers position. We are a team that could, I said could, be relegated, your in a stable job and not particularly wanting to move. GTFC come along next week and ask you to join them, we still get relegated , why would anyone want that scenario. That's my view on it all, Wilko will have to save us and I hope he will, then and only then we can appoint a new leader or they give it to Wilko after he's done a fantastic job and won 12 out of 12! ( Walter Mitty rules ok)
Because anyone worth their salt wants to challenge themselves as high up the pyramid as possible and has the confidence in their principles to turn things around. A bit like Hurst leaving for Shrewsbury.
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February 12, 2018, 9:36am |
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According the matt dean he just spoken to Phil Brown and he is interested in managing us any thoughts ?
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According the matt dean he just spoken to Phil Brown and he is interested in managing us any thoughts ?
Avoid like the plague!
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Avoid like the plague!
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February 12, 2018, 9:47am |
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Agree-but could be a dundeel. In golfing terms "Par for the course"
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£10 on P.Brown at 8/1 please with Wilko as his assistant
Wonder if he'd be on a 4 year contract worth £138k per year....
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February 12, 2018, 10:14am |
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Avoid like the plague!
Really? He took over Hull in decemeber in the relegation zone. They got promoted the next year to the premiership. He managed two play-off seasons in a row at Southend, and won the play-offs the second time to get promoted to league 1. Why do people still think we are this massive club?
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February 12, 2018, 10:54am |
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Funnily enough his win ratio at Southend of 40% was the most successful of his career
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Cos we are bigger than Southend even if we are currently lower than them . They have spent just 7 seasons in the second / championship in their existence. The rest in the lower leagues, potentially we are bigger ...fact .
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February 12, 2018, 10:57am |
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According the matt dean he just spoken to Phil Brown and he is interested in managing us any thoughts ?
Did Matt say Woodhouse would be his assistant ?
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February 12, 2018, 11:00am |
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I recognise Brown's achievements and there's no doubt he could do well here, but he's quite a fiery character and I'd be surprised if the board go for someone like that. They couldn't handle Mike Newell, Rob Scott or Marcus Bignot.
They could handle Paul Hurst, though. He went about his business quietly, steadily, didn't make rash decisions and basically didn't rant and rave.
They need someone who is both talented enough to do the job and will tow the line.
Not someone that signs the likes of Nile Ranger and constantly has (alleged) bust-ups in the dressing room, as that brings its own problems.
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February 12, 2018, 11:06am |
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If Paul Wilkinson doesn't keep us up I assume he'll realise he's probably not front runner for the job when it's advertised. If he does keep us up it might still take a Herculean effort for him to get it if it's just by the skin of his teeth. If we do well and finish mid table or thereabouts then he should be the favourite for the job as he will have evidenced that he is capable of getting results from the same set of players who didn't / couldn't do it for Slade - and that would have to come down to good coaching / man management skills.
I also like the fact that the old adage "what happens in the dressing room stays in the dressing room" Nobody knows for sure that Wilkinson and Slade did get on, and Paul will be fully aware that his reputation will have been tarnished by association, so he has a great chance were that the case to put the record straight. For once, I think the board got it exactly right, albeit at least 5 or 6 games far too late, and should finally be applauded for having done so.
UTFM, and onwards and upwards.
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February 12, 2018, 11:14am |
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Cos we are bigger than Southend even if we are currently lower than them . They have spent just 7 seasons in the second / championship in their existence. The rest in the lower leagues, potentially we are bigger ...fact .
We got relegated from that league in 2003, thats 15 years ago, spent 1 year in league 1, the rest in league 2 and conference...
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February 12, 2018, 11:21am |
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Cos we are bigger than Southend even if we are currently lower than them . They have spent just 7 seasons in the second / championship in their existence. The rest in the lower leagues, potentially we are bigger ...fact .
This all depends on how you defy the basis of what makes you a bigger club than the next. Would you consider Wimbledon a bigger club than GTFC ?
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February 12, 2018, 11:31am |
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We are the bigger club-only £2.5 million in debt -have got mates who have bigger credit card debts
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February 12, 2018, 11:39am |
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At this stage I'm sure that if anyone stuck a tenner on any of those they'd soon be odds on favourites.
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This all depends on how you defy the basis of what makes you a bigger club than the next.
Would you consider Wimbledon a bigger club than GTFC ?
All depends if you include AFC Wimbledon't previous history, and if you then yes, they are a bigger club than us. They have won an FAC Final, we haven't, they regularly used to trash much bigger clubs than themselves in the old Division 1 and Premeirship. They have provided many internationals during their short existence in the Football League. Don't count the potential size of support as the only means of determining whether or not a club is big or not. Let's not forget as well how notoriously fickle Town fans are with their support, and gates of 4,000 to 5,000 the last time we were in the second tier of English football.
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February 12, 2018, 12:41pm |
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Pure guesswork on BetVictor's part of course but this is the first set of odds I have seen so far...
[url]https://www.betvictor.com/en-gb/sports/football-specials/manager-specials/coupons/982100/126456098/916255200/0/0/PE/0/0/0/0/0[/url]
18:00 Fri 27 Apr Next Permanent Grimsby Manager Outright - Specials
Paul Wilkinson 3/1 Gary Caldwell 6/1 Robbie Stockdale 6/1 Phil Brown 8/1 Stuart McCall 8/1 Robbie Neilson 10/1 John Askey 10/1 Neil Redfearn 12/1 Dougie Freedman 12/1 Brian McDermott 12/1 Lee Clark 12/1 Chris Lucketti 12/1 Sean O'Driscoll 14/1 Billy Davies 14/1 John Sheridan 16/1 Paul Ince 16/1 Mark McGhee 20/1 Dave Penny 20/1 Gary Megson 20/1 Sol Campbell 20/1 Adrian Pennock 20/1 Michael Brown 20/1 Shaun Derry 20/1 Michael Appleton 25/1
There are a few decent names on there but please god no one from Paul Ince and below (apart from Appleton but that ain’t gonna happen) UTFM
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February 12, 2018, 1:17pm |
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If Paul Wilkinson doesn't keep us up I assume he'll realise he's probably not front runner for the job when it's advertised. If he does keep us up it might still take a Herculean effort for him to get it if it's just by the skin of his teeth. If we do well and finish mid table or thereabouts then he should be the favourite for the job as he will have evidenced that he is capable of getting results from the same set of players who didn't / couldn't do it for Slade - and that would have to come down to good coaching / man management skills.
I also like the fact that the old adage "what happens in the dressing room stays in the dressing room" Nobody knows for sure that Wilkinson and Slade did get on, and Paul will be fully aware that his reputation will have been tarnished by association, so he has a great chance were that the case to put the record straight. For once, I think the board got it exactly right, albeit at least 5 or 6 games far too late, and should finally be applauded for having done so.
UTFM, and onwards and upwards.
I suspect Wilkos time in charge will be very short - maybe just the one game. Thats how I read the boards statement anyhow. He perhaps should be given a chance, but I think they will move fast in view of the league position.
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February 12, 2018, 2:03pm |
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Wilko has not be happy since before Christmas, something was not right between him and Slade.
Hope he is given the opportunity in the short term to prove he can do the job.
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February 12, 2018, 2:35pm |
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Wilko has not be happy since before Christmas, something was not right between him and Slade.
Hope he is given the opportunity in the short term to prove he can do the job.
I haven't been happy since August
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February 12, 2018, 3:20pm |
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I haven't been happy since October 2016!
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Phil Brown could be our equivalent of Hartlepool”s Dave Jones last year imo. I would personally avoid.
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February 12, 2018, 4:09pm |
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Wilko has not be happy since before Christmas, something was not right between him and Slade.
Hope he is given the opportunity in the short term to prove he can do the job.
Sauce/source/sorss/sawss please
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Itll be Stockdale....
Can't afford him--he'll want £138K for 4 years
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Sauce/source/sorss/sawss please
Paul was married to my cousin, Paul still in touch with my uncle, who said that Paul was not happy at GTFC, that was before Christmas.
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Paul was married to my cousin, Paul still in touch with my uncle, who said that Paul was not happy at GTFC, that was before Christmas.
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Pure guesswork on BetVictor's part of course but this is the first set of odds I have seen so far...
[url]https://www.betvictor.com/en-gb/sports/football-specials/manager-specials/coupons/982100/126456098/916255200/0/0/PE/0/0/0/0/0[/url]
18:00 Fri 27 Apr Next Permanent Grimsby Manager Outright - Specials
Paul Wilkinson 3/1 Gary Caldwell 6/1 Robbie Stockdale 6/1 Phil Brown 8/1 Stuart McCall 8/1 Robbie Neilson 10/1 John Askey 10/1 Neil Redfearn 12/1 Dougie Freedman 12/1 Brian McDermott 12/1 Lee Clark 12/1 Chris Lucketti 12/1 Sean O'Driscoll 14/1 Billy Davies 14/1 John Sheridan 16/1 Paul Ince 16/1 Mark McGhee 20/1 Dave Penny 20/1 Gary Megson 20/1 Sol Campbell 20/1 Adrian Pennock 20/1 Michael Brown 20/1 Shaun Derry 20/1 Michael Appleton 25/1
That's an exciting bunch, who would I pick from them, not sure I would. Wilko as caretaker and see how it goes
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Sky have Elliot as the 2/5 favourite followed by Stockdale at 7/2.
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February 12, 2018, 8:26pm |
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2/5 ? Odds on?!?
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I reckon John Fenty will appoint Richard Brodie as our next manager! 😂😂😂😂😂
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Sky have Elliot as the 2/5 favourite followed by Stockdale at 7/2.
Someone stuck £2 on them.
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Have Skybet got someone outside Millfields?
One outside mill fields and another in a camper van at the petrol station on the m180
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Ivano Bonetti might put a few on the gate....
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Because anyone worth their salt wants to challenge themselves as high up the pyramid as possible and has the confidence in their principles to turn things around. A bit like Hurst leaving for Shrewsbury.
Agreed, there are plenty of up and coming managers that would see Grimsby as a massive step up and would relish the challenge of taking them to the next level. GTFC are a much bigger club than all those in the National League and many of those in League Two.
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Care to name some, since you've decided to hijack this situation for your own ends?
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Ivano Bonetti might put a few on the gate....
The few would be bouncers to stop anybody coming in with a plate of chicken wings,
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February 12, 2018, 10:12pm |
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I work at Sky Bet and can say with some degree of certainty that no one knows anything extra. The market, as most of you know, is (for now) totally dictated by where relatively small amounts of money is going.
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Which means that 2/5 is an utter farce of a price
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February 12, 2018, 10:23pm |
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To be honest, I don’t think much attention is paid to new manager markets at this level of football by any bookie. It’s really not that lucrative for them.
It could be as simple as someone taking a few mins to read the latest rumours and chucking some numbers together.
Genuine candidates and odds will begin to firm up over the next few days.
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Wilko has not be happy since before Christmas, something was not right between him and Slade.
Hope he is given the opportunity in the short term to prove he can do the job.
He didn't look happy at the fns forum in Oct/Nov. I put it down to not being comfortable sat in that kind of, erm, forum.
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Why don't we try to get Boston United as our "feeder" club-then we could save money by keeping Elliot-you know it makes sense
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Why don't we try to get Boston United as our "feeder" club-then we could save money by keeping Elliot-you know it makes sense
To you maybe, to the rest of us its small talk, ( business as usual for Golfer)
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JF will give the job to Robbie Stockdale. At least then he won't have to fork out for any new trackies/coats etc as Robbie could use Russell's old ones.
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February 13, 2018, 11:15am |
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I'm not even going to take odds seriously until Thursday or Friday, odds this early are just random numbers thrown against the names.
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JF will give the job to Robbie Stockdale. At least then he won't have to fork out for any new trackies/coats etc as Robbie could use Russell's old ones.
After a year or two of eating fish and chips.
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February 13, 2018, 11:33am |
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It's a shame Alan Curbishley and George Graham don't appear in these lists anymore. It's just not the same.
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February 13, 2018, 11:40am |
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It's a shame Alan Curbishley and George Graham don't appear in these lists anymore. It's just not the same.
David O'Leary was always one that appeared on all lists, a little concerned to see Brian Laws up there, meaning someone has probably asked for odds.
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February 13, 2018, 12:03pm |
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I cant help thinking that Wilkinson is worth a sniff at 14/1 given that he has a chance to show what he can do Saturday.
Skybet Next Permanent Grimsby Manager Manager Specials Next Permanent Manager Caretaker and interim managers completing at least 10 competitive games will be deemed the permanent manager
Craig Elliott 2/5 Robbie Stockdale 7/2 Phil Brown 7/1 John Askey 8/1 Paul Wilkinson 14/1 John Sheridan 20/1 Stuart McCall 20/1 Brian Laws 22/1 Lee Clark 22/1 Paul Groves 22/1 Gary Caldwell 25/1 Neil Redfearn 25/1 Richard Money 25/1 Robbie Neilson 25/1 Chris Lucketti 28/1 Martin Allen 28/1 Michael Brown 28/1 Sean O'Driscoll 28/1 Tommy Widdrington 33/1
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Well no one knows and I don't think the last 2 were even in the betting
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Nah, even the bookies knew Slade was a shoo-in last time: Russell Slade 1/8 Neil Redfearn 10/1 Steve Cotterill 12/1 David Flitcroft 12/1 Paul Groves 14/1 Kenny Jackett 16/1 Nigel Adkins 16/1 Neil Woods 16/1 Robbie Stockdale 18/1 Alan Buckley 25/1 Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink 25/1 Micky Adams 25/1 Chris Powell 25/1 Billy Davies 28/1 Russ Wilcox 28/1 Curtis Woodhouse 28/1 Taken from: https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1491836789/s-all/
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Wilkinson out to 10/1 now. Worth a punt as he has first shout?
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Nah, even the bookies knew Slade was a shoo-in last time: Russell Slade 1/8 Neil Redfearn 10/1 Steve Cotterill 12/1 David Flitcroft 12/1 Paul Groves 14/1 Kenny Jackett 16/1 Nigel Adkins 16/1 Neil Woods 16/1 Robbie Stockdale 18/1 Alan Buckley 25/1 Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink 25/1 Micky Adams 25/1 Chris Powell 25/1 Billy Davies 28/1 Russ Wilcox 28/1 Curtis Woodhouse 28/1 Taken from: https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1491836789/s-all/
Looks a better list than the current one tbh!
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Should be updated shortly. Kevin Keegan anyone ?? !!! (Fresh from Millfields)
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Lee Clark
He was brought in to save Bury from relegation when the fans thought they were doomed-he succeeded so JSF might be thinking along those lines-especially if he is thinking in terms of a six months rolling contract
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Paul Groves was actually at our last home game against Cheltenham, probally just scouting over players for Birmingham City?
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Wilkinson out to 10/1 now. Worth a punt as he has first shout?
He only has to get to ten games doesn't he, for them to pay out? Could be worth a punt but i feel he will maybe get 2 games myself.
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Put a fiver on Wilko at 14-1 and also a fiver on Stuart McCall when he was 25-1.
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He didn't look happy at the fns forum in Oct/Nov. I put it down to not being comfortable sat in that kind of, erm, forum.
My wife wasn't comfortable with me reading Forum.
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My wife wasn't comfortable with me reading Forum.
Why ? Presumably you had already seen her naked !!
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He only has to get to ten games doesn't he, for them to pay out? Could be worth a punt but i feel he will maybe get 2 games myself.
And what happens if we play like the 1970 Brazil Team for those two games, and sweep aside the opposition? Will Wilko get the job? Remember Cockers caretaker spell? I was gutted when Lawsy got the job. The game against Middlesborough when Cockers was caretaker was a classic.
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And what happens if we play like the 1970 Brazil Team for those two games, and sweep aside the opposition? Will Wilko get the job? Remember Cockers caretaker spell? I was gutted when Lawsy got the job. The game against Middlesborough when Cockers was caretaker was a classic.
I think the club are already set on the path of recruiting someone else myself, rightly or wrongly. Are they going to interview all these candidates, then say "thanks, we'll be in touch in a week or two maybe, just want to see how the stand in gets on first"? I suppose they could do that, but if an outstanding candidate comes along, surely they will have to act. They may still have Wilko earmarked for assistant. Suppose it could depend on the quality of those that have applied. Who knows?
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I think the club are already set on the path of recruiting someone else myself, rightly or wrongly. Are they going to interview all these candidates, then say "thanks, we'll be in touch in a week or two maybe, just want to see how the stand in gets on first"?
I suppose they could do that, but if an outstanding candidate comes along, surely they will have to act. They may still have Wilko earmarked for assistant. Suppose it could depend on the quality of those that have applied.
Who knows?
I hope it just isnt decided from those who have applied. I would also like them to make a few approaches to other candidates they feel may be right. This approach clearly didnt work with Slade or Newell but it does make sense to ask a few for interview even if they havent apllied. Yes, I can understand those who feel if someone has not applied then they arent really interested but equally it is true that some people simply need to be asked. The net has to be spread far and wide
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Say what you want about Grovesy, and the fact that he managed us before (albeit when he was young and still a player).
I would personally welcome his appointment. He's a very well respected coach, will have a lot of contacts, one of the best players to ever grace BP, and he still absolutely loves the club (he said as much on the radio when he was commentating last season.)
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Say what you want about Grovesy, and the fact that he managed us before (albeit when he was young and still a player).
I would personally welcome his appointment. He's a very well respected coach, will have a lot of contacts, one of the best players to ever grace BP, and he still absolutely loves the club (he said as much on the radio when he was commentating last season.)
Not so keen on the non chairman though!!
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Not so keen on the non chairman though!!
Not many people are! Hah. Grovesy and Wilko worked together when he was manager before too, right?
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Not many people are! Hah.
Grovesy and Wilko worked together when he was manager before too, right?
Yes i think that is right? about 2002 ish? Groves brought in Andy Todd and Martin Pringle at that time too
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I can see is it being John Askey coming up from No where 5/1 now
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Say what you want about Grovesy, and the fact that he managed us before (albeit when he was young and still a player).
I would personally welcome his appointment. He's a very well respected coach, will have a lot of contacts, one of the best players to ever grace BP, and he still absolutely loves the club (he said as much on the radio when he was commentating last season.)
Groves may be a well respected coach, but there is no evidence to suggest he's a manager
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February 14, 2018, 2:06pm |
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I can see is it being John Askey coming up from No where 5/1 now
Would fit the bill of running a club with little or no money and having watched a MAC game on tv earlier on the season they look far better than us especially like the front 2
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Groves may be a well respected coach, but there is no evidence to suggest he's a manager
Same could be said about Luton manager...
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Same could be said about Luton manager...
Could it? Had he failed in 2 previous managerial jobs? Had he lost 8-1 at Hartlepool, 5-1 at Port Vale, 6-0 at Oldham and 4-1 at a side managed by Tony Adams?!
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Bournemouth were in a terrible position in the table when Eddie Howe took over from Groves - I seem to remember he had something like a 12 game run without a win and then Howe took over and they immediately started getting results.
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I think the likelihood of Groves becoming our next manager is very slim. I listened to Sports Talk last night and Matt Dean said he’d been in touch and Groves said he hadn’t applied and probably won’t be.
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Could it? Had he failed in 2 previous managerial jobs? Had he lost 8-1 at Hartlepool, 5-1 at Port Vale, 6-0 at Oldham and 4-1 at a side managed by Tony Adams?!
I don't think you can judge him as a manager from his time with us. The first season he did very well to keep us up, then ITV crippled the club and no manager would have succeeded with no money. I think he's an excellent coach and the amount of high profile coaching roles he undertakes backs that up. I think Groves realises this and this is the reason why he happy away from the top slot (an assumption, as I've not spoken to him). Maybe in the future, he will try again to be the big dog, and I hope he does and we get to see him back here in our dugout, but that time isn't now.
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Unless there`s a last minute surprise this is my shortlist
Craig Elliott 2/5 Robbie Stockdale 7/2 Phil Brown 7/1 John Askey 8/1 Paul Wilkinson 14/1 John Sheridan 20/1 Stuart McCall 20/1
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Personally think Craig Elliott would be a huge risk. He's only been in charge at Boston for 3 months and has only managed at a much lower levels with Ossett Town, Glasshoughton etc. I think there is too much at stake to take that risk
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Groves is in the same class was Woods. Should never be allowed near this club again
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Now is not the time to take that risk IMO and I would really hope the board would see it this way too. He really doesn't have any relevant experience to save a big L2 club from a relegation fight and turn it around in 3 months, all things considered. If it was up to me , I'd want to be utterly assured that the person I was appointing to deal with that responsibility would be absolutely equipped to deal with the pressure, and to know this league well. Experience at L1 would cement that.
Maybe in a pre-season appointment you'd consider going that route, but even then you'd have to think really hard about his relative lack of EFL knowledge, links etc..
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Groves 8-1 at hartleppol . Failed at Bournemouth ...... great player for US as many have been in the past but not a manager
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He really doesn't have any relevant experience to save a big L2 club from a relegation fight and turn it around in 3 months.
I didn't know a big L2 club was after him, he's bound to choose them before us Seriously what is all this crap about Elliott. What is it about Boston United managers that gets Fenty all aroused? Is it because they are cheap I wonder. (The only decent manager to come out of Boston is about to take Mansfield into the playoffs this season) We can't afford to take a risk on a manager from one league below never mind two FFS, If Fenty is determined to appoint someone in a hurry, which I really hope he isn't (IMO Wilkinson, with the help I hope of Moore, will get the best out of what we have got) I'd rather leave it until the end of the season personally but if he does jump in please not Elliot or anyone else from the non-league.
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Groves is in the same class was Woods. Should never be allowed near this club again
You mean the Neil Woods who is currently working for GTFC?
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I didn't know a big L2 club was after him, he's bound to choose them before us
Seriously what is all this crap about Elliott. What is it about Boston United managers that gets Fenty all aroused? Is it because they are cheap I wonder. (The only decent manager to come out of Boston is about to take Mansfield into the playoffs this season)
We can't afford to take a risk on a manager from one league below never mind two FFS, If Fenty is determined to appoint someone in a hurry, which I really hope he isn't (IMO Wilkinson, with the help I hope of Moore, will get the best out of what we have got) I'd rather leave it until the end of the season personally but if he does jump in please not Elliot or anyone else from the non-league.
Hang on, JF hasn’t mentioned him , you are talking crap
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This is a crucial and difficult appointment to make.
Right now we need a fixer - someone who can lead us to safety by whatever means (even if it’s horrible football).
Then, if we survive, we’ll need a builder in the summer.
I wouldn’t want us lumbered with a short-term appointment from the summer onwards, but if we employ a more visionary (but young/risky) manager now it might not guarantee us safety.
If you see what I mean.
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Whoever we appoint will be a roll of the dice We appointed Buckley from non league Kettering after two successive relegations What a risk and what a result!
So why are some people pooping themselves over Craig Elliot?
He has had 3 promotions in 4 seasons - Hurst had also got Ilkeston and Boston promoted
When Elliot took over at Boston they were 3rd bottom and now they are safely in 8th/9th
He has the winning habit, knows what it takes to produce results etc
Sure, he lacks experience but every manager has to start somewhere in EFL
I think Stockdale is a far bigger risk - never been a manager
Also.... can some people think before they post about a legend and great player like Paul Groves "should never be let near the club again"
Complete disrespect and moronic
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Whoever we appoint will be a roll of the dice We appointed Buckley from non league Kettering after two successive relegations What a risk and what a result!
So why are some people pooping themselves over Craig Elliot?
He has had 3 promotions in 4 seasons - Hurst had also got Ilkeston and Boston promoted
When Elliot took over at Boston they were 3rd bottom and now they are safely in 8th/9th
He has the winning habit, knows what it takes to produce results etc
Sure, he lacks experience but every manager has to start somewhere in EFL
I think Stockdale is a far bigger risk - never been a manager
Also.... can some people think before they post about a legend and great player like Paul Groves "should never be let near the club again"
Complete disrespect and moronic
This 'Buckley came from non league Kettering' remark is true of course but previously his record was impressive at Walsall taking them to the League Cup semi final. He was hardly an untried or inexperienced novice
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Interesting names in the frame with a wide range of fors and against.
Fingers crossed for whoever's appointed takes to the job like duck to water and takes us to new beginnings.
Optimistic with the ride ahead for the best fans on the planet 😍
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Hang on, JF hasn’t mentioned him , you are talking crap
Just wait and see - he mentioned contact from a lot of applicants (out of work dossers probably) and some others the club will be speaking to given permission. I can't see any manager in his right mind who is currently in a job in L1 or L2 applying so I suggest anyone we would need permission to speak to is in non-league. Personally I would favour, if we must go non-league, to wait and see which of the disappointed managers from the 6 or 7 who are currently in the promotion mix from the Conference are available come May. The Wrexham bloke if they don't make it for example Sadly it looks like Fenty is worried and is therefore keen to make an early appointment (which normally means a wrong choice) Elliott would be a wrong choice right now (and probably in May too given who else might be available) Wilkinson (and hopefully Moore having an input) can do it.
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Yes. And it is not moronic or disrespectful to talk of Groves and Woods in Such a manner. Groves took the first relegation in a poor manner and continued to do it again. He is a fool who put his own situation before the club. Many a good player has had there reputation tarnished by going into management.
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I didn't know a big L2 club was after him, he's bound to choose them before us
Seriously what is all this crap about Elliott. What is it about Boston United managers that gets Fenty all aroused? Is it because they are cheap I wonder. (The only decent manager to come out of Boston is about to take Mansfield into the playoffs this season)
We can't afford to take a risk on a manager from one league below never mind two FFS, If Fenty is determined to appoint someone in a hurry, which I really hope he isn't (IMO Wilkinson, with the help I hope of Moore, will get the best out of what we have got) I'd rather leave it until the end of the season personally but if he does jump in please not Elliot or anyone else from the non-league.
The ONLY decent manager to come out of Boston? So you are completely disregarding another one who not only got Town promoted (however many seasons it took) miraculously saved Shrewsbury from almost certain relegation and is about to take them up to the Championship! And why are you so against managers from non-league? Haven't our most successful managers in recent history come from non-league? Yes, Marcus Bignot didn't quite pan out as we'd all of liked but if you look back through the threads of when he was appointed, you will find the majority of us were happy with his appointment and agreed Fenty has made a good decision going for young and up and coming rather than journeyman 'merry go round' manager. As another poster above has remarked... You're talking crap!!!
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The ONLY decent manager to come out of Boston?
So you are completely disregarding another one who not only got Town promoted (however many seasons it took) miraculously saved Shrewsbury from almost certain relegation and is about to take them up to the Championship!
And why are you so against managers from non-league? Haven't our most successful managers in recent history come from non-league?
Yes, Marcus Bignot didn't quite pan out as we'd all of liked but if you look back through the threads of when he was appointed, you will find the majority of us were happy with his appointment and agreed Fenty has made a good decision going for young and up and coming rather than journeyman 'merry go round' manager.
As another poster above has remarked... You're talking crap!!!
He took us out of the non-league eventually and then cupped his ear like he had won the Champions League What other 'most successful managers in recent history come from non-league' are you referring to? Buckley managed Walsall in the league before he came here remember (and was only at Kettering as Walsall got rid) We need someone who knows the club and the squad for the rest of this season or, if Fenty insists on jumping in, someone who has had experience and success in the league preferably in relegation fights , not someone hoping to step up from non-league to a 'massive club' (not) like Grimsby Town (we can get someone with non-league experience if we go down!) This isn't the moment for 'up and coming'
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Just wait and see - he mentioned contact from a lot of applicants (out of work dossers probably) and some others the club will be speaking to given permission. I can't see any manager in his right mind who is currently in a job in L1 or L2 applying so I suggest anyone we would need permission to speak to is in non-league.
Personally I would favour, if we must go non-league, to wait and see which of the disappointed managers from the 6 or 7 who are currently in the promotion mix from the Conference are available come May. The Wrexham bloke if they don't make it for example
Sadly it looks like Fenty is worried and is therefore keen to make an early appointment (which normally means a wrong choice) Elliott would be a wrong choice right now (and probably in May too given who else might be available) Wilkinson (and hopefully Moore having an input) can do it.
Whose to say it's a manager? Could be an assistant or a coach at a higher level. Stockdale for instance.
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This is a crucial and difficult appointment to make.
Right now we need a fixer - someone who can lead us to safety by whatever means (even if it’s horrible football).
Then, if we survive, we’ll need a builder in the summer.
I wouldn’t want us lumbered with a short-term appointment from the summer onwards, but if we employ a more visionary (but young/risky) manager now it might not guarantee us safety.
If you see what I mean.
I agree with this. If push comes to shove with Wilko not showing any signs of changing things then I'd probably plump for Askey on the basis that if we did get relegated then we would have someone in place who is well equipped for that league. As we found out previously its a massive culture shock being in that league, and we were reeling for the first two years down there, I don't think we've got the time to wait for a McCall, Brown or Stockdale to come to terms with it.
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Latest odds.. Craig Elliott 1/2 John Asked 9/2 Paul Wilkinson 11/2 Robbie Stockdale 8/1 Phil Brown 9/1 Stuart McCall 14/1
Out of those, I personally would like Phil Brown (due to potential knowledge of higher leagues and quality players) or Craig Elliot (up and coming manager potentially?) I don't know much about any of them or anyone else further down the order.
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Doing a little research John Askey has been in and around Macclesfield for the past 34 years!!!
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I didn't know a big L2 club was after him, he's bound to choose them before us
Seriously what is all this crap about Elliott. What is it about Boston United managers that gets Fenty all aroused? Is it because they are cheap I wonder. (The only decent manager to come out of Boston is about to take Mansfield into the playoffs this season)
We can't afford to take a risk on a manager from one league below never mind two FFS, If Fenty is determined to appoint someone in a hurry, which I really hope he isn't (IMO Wilkinson, with the help I hope of Moore, will get the best out of what we have got) I'd rather leave it until the end of the season personally but if he does jump in please not Elliot or anyone else from the non-league.
Howard Wilkinson managed Boston he won the football league with Leeds.
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Howard Wilkinson managed Boston he won the football league with Leeds.
Howard who?
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Howard Wilkinson managed Boston he won the football league with Leeds.
Jim Smith also started at Boston and he had a pretty decent career.
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Groves 8-1 at hartleppol . Failed at Bournemouth ...... great player for US as many have been in the past but not a manager
Thought he was English.
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This is a crucial and difficult appointment to make.
Right now we need a fixer - someone who can lead us to safety by whatever means (even if it’s horrible football).
Then, if we survive, we’ll need a builder in the summer.
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I heard Slade is free at the moment. But we'd better act quick because he's in demand.
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He took us out of the non-league eventually and then cupped his ear like he had won the Champions League
What other 'most successful managers in recent history come from non-league' are you referring to? Buckley managed Walsall in the league before he came here remember (and was only at Kettering as Walsall got rid)
We need someone who knows the club and the squad for the rest of this season or, if Fenty insists on jumping in, someone who has had experience and success in the league preferably in relegation fights , not someone hoping to step up from non-league to a 'massive club' (not) like Grimsby Town (we can get someone with non-league experience if we go down!) This isn't the moment for 'up and coming'
I can be argued.that winning that game WAS our Champions League final given the importance! Slade in his first spell could be classed as successful to a degree, great cup run beating Spurs and narrowly losing to Newcastle in the next round, sitting in the automatic promotion places for most of the season, certainly our best performing season for since 98 in terms of league positions. And whichever way you swing it, we got Buckley from non-league, despite his previous clubs! We need someone who 'knows the club' you say... Paul Groves, John Cockerell, Graham Rodger, Neil Woods... All 'knew the club'.... What good did that do them or us?!? There is absolutely zero evidence that Wilko will be any good as manager! I sincerely hope he's the next Eddie Howe and takes us into the Premier League but for now I'd much rather someone with at least a good deal of managerial experience, whether that be from above or below league 2!
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I don't think you can judge him as a manager from his time with us. The first season he did very well to keep us up, then ITV crippled the club and no manager would have succeeded with no money.
I think he's an excellent coach and the amount of high profile coaching roles he undertakes backs that up. I think Groves realises this and this is the reason why he happy away from the top slot (an assumption, as I've not spoken to him). Maybe in the future, he will try again to be the big dog, and I hope he does and we get to see him back here in our dugout, but that time isn't now.
The ITV Digital thing washes with me for 02/03 (I doubt anyone would've kept us up) but not 03/04. I do agree about him obviously being a decent coach though.
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There is absolutely zero evidence that Wilko will be any good as manager! I sincerely hope he's the next Eddie However and takes us into the Premier League but for now I'd much rather someone with at least a good deal of managerial experience, whether that be from above or below league 2!
There is absolutely zero evidence that bringing in a new man who knows nowt about the squad will be a good manager either I don't want Wilkinson to manage the club long term, I just want him to see out the season as I believe if anyone can get enough points together for safety its him Bringing in a new man now would be all done in a rush and may well, given Fenty (and 'Shut Up's) knowledge about selecting a manager, lead to yet another excrement appointment. I would rather wait until May, take our time, see who is available at the end of the season giving a new man a clean(ish) sheet playerwise (apart from the duffers on 2 years), knowing what league we are in etc etc Please don't rush it John, if anyone can save us I believe Wilko can.
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There is absolutely zero evidence that bringing in a new man who knows nowt about the squad will be a good manager either
I don't want Wilkinson to manage the club long term, I just want him to see out the season as I believe if anyone can get enough points together for safety its him
Bringing in a new man now would be all done in a rush and may well, given Fenty (and 'Shut Up's) knowledge about selecting a manager, lead to yet another excrement appointment. I would rather wait until May, take our time, see who is available at the end of the season giving a new man a clean(ish) sheet playerwise (apart from the duffers on 2 years), knowing what league we are in etc etc
Please don't rush it John, if anyone can save us I believe Wilko can.
So Wilko loses the first 2 games... Then what? What has Wilko done since he came back to the club to give this absolute confidence in his ability to turn things around?
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So Wilko loses the first 2 games... Then what? What has Wilko done since he came back to the club to give this absolute confidence in his ability to turn things around?
So some out of work 'bigger' name (or some lower league unknown) comes in after Wilko's two games on a two year, or even a six month contract, and loses the next two, then what do we do? It could go on and on and on I don't have absolute confidence in Wilkinson (and I certainly don't have confidence in Fenty and Co to pick the right man in a panic stricken rush) but if anyone knows the squad and can change things quickly because of that more intimate knowledge then its him obviously. He appears to have done intercourse all I agree but how much of that was down to Slade we don't know. I certainly think the players will react to him and pull together. We're not going down anyway it's a massive over reaction
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So some out of work 'bigger' name (or some lower league unknown) comes in after Wilko's two games on a two year, or even a six month contract, and loses the next two, then what do we do? It could go on and on and on
I don't have absolute confidence in Wilkinson (and I certainly don't have confidence in Fenty and Co to pick the right man in a panic stricken rush) but if anyone knows the squad and can change things quickly because of that more intimate knowledge then its him obviously. He appears to have done intercourse all I agree but how much of that was down to Slade we don't know. I certainly think the players will react to him and pull together.
We're not going down anyway it's a massive over reaction
While I agree with your sentiments about JF, who would you trust? Judging by the likes and dislikes on this message board , it must be an impossible task to get it right and please everyone.
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Anyone who knows me will know that I am very concerned about the running of GTFC at boardroom level, however I do have some sympathy over having to make another choice of manager. Over recent years the club have tried many ‘types’ of solution. Promote from within similar to the way Liverpool did in their glory years? Groves, Rodger, Woods are hardly a ringing endorsement of this although going back a little further Dave Booth certainly was. Get an experienced manager in some will tell you. In the modern game Russell Slade was about as experienced as they come whilst Mike Newell had also a fair few games under his belt as a manager. Get a younger, up and coming manager? Marcus Bignot seemed like a kid in the sweetshop and not just with a taste for ‘fruitloops’. The above illustrates that it isn’t just the ‘type’ of manager but the man himself who we hope will make the difference. It really does seem that there is a fair amount of ‘luck’ involved in football management selection given that so many are dismissed as failures within 18 months or so. This is far from a Grimsby Town phenomena. Looking at the candidates linked on social media, Phil Brown and Stuart McCall fit the experienced selection, Paul Wilkinson the ‘in-house’ choice whilst Craig Elliott carries the flag for up and coming. Robbie Stockdale gets lots of support but I understand he has not applied but would certainly be interested in chatting if the club asked. I would not rule anyone in, or out, but I would want answers from any candidate to help be see the wood from the trees. Playing style is more important now that maybe in the past, primarily because of the way so many fans saw the reign of Russell Slade. We need a manager who will at least try to play the right way, a passing style but maybe just a winning one for the time being! I hope the board don’t underestimate the value of getting the fans onside for once I would desperately want someone with serious drive & ambition. One of the things that stood out for me about Paul Hurst was his work ethic. Virtually every single night, he and Chris Doig were out watching games, building up a virtual encyclopaedic knowledge of players. I appreciate he wasn’t everyone’s cup of tea but for me he was always likely to be successful because of the effort he put in and the camaraderie he built within his squads. Is drive and ambition limited to the up and coming or even a first time manager? Kevin Phillips, Sol Campbell, Cameron Toshack or Danny Butterfield all fit the ‘first time’ type although Butterfield is a bit left field given his very limited experience. I doubt it would be feasible to get someone like Gary Brazil? An experienced ‘developer’ of talent who has stood in on several occasions as a caretaker at Forest. This choice would get by backing if the club were to go along with my views about trying to build a DNA for GTFC. This involves a policy of bringing our youth players through but also getting ourselves known as a club where youngsters released from higher up the footballing food chain get a chance, provided they have the right attitude. Brazil would be ideal in this sort of ethos and his knowledge of the early 20 somethings at many clubs would be really useful.
Maybe the way to go is a younger guy with an experienced head alongside? A Morecambe and Wise or even a Bignot and Slade!! I think all the above really tells us is that there is no right or wrong. The board just need to do the background checks, speak to people in the game and keep their fingers crossed they get it right, because the wrong choice now could finish the club. Whoever gets the job the fans have little choice but to support him and I sincerely hope they do. The fans don’t pick the manager and a glance at social media will tell you that neither should they! There are nearly as many names as some clubs have fans. A very, very difficult choice but hopefully not an impossible one to get right with thorough process and a large slice of luck
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By the time we have interviewed all the shortlist we will only have about 10 games to play, That is too little time to take a punt on a rookie manager, If Wilko has got us points in his 3 games in charge it might be better to keep with him and see how it goes, A proven manager with a successful career is a different matter but will he be happy with a 6 month rolling contract ? I don't envy the board trying to find the right man who will hit the ground running with our lop sided squad ( thanks Slade ) I hope Wilko can at least get enough points to keep us up and him in the job until the end of the season, Then we can look at how well he has done and decide do we need another man to come in to take us to the next level, ( that's upwards )
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While I agree with your sentiments about JF, who would you trust? Judging by the likes and dislikes on this message board , it must be an impossible task to get it right and please everyone.
Exactly, I wish he'd never sacked Slade (not not really ) there has been more nonsense, garbage and pointless posts on here about a new manager than there ever was about getting rid of Slade and there will never ever be a consensus whoever gets the job. As for who I would trust to advise Fenty and Co on the next man I really don't know, that's the problem with having a board that knows absolutely intercourse all about football. I am totally opposed to asking Buckley's opinion but as Paddy Hamilton, the only director who had the slightest clue about football, is no longer with us we are knackered. I fear the new man will be a) the cheapest or b) the one whose bullshit at interview convinced Fenty (not difficult judging by past appointments) or both.
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So some out of work 'bigger' name (or some lower league unknown) comes in after Wilko's two games on a two year, or even a six month contract, and loses the next two, then what do we do? It could go on and on and on
I don't have absolute confidence in Wilkinson (and I certainly don't have confidence in Fenty and Co to pick the right man in a panic stricken rush) but if anyone knows the squad and can change things quickly because of that more intimate knowledge then its him obviously. He appears to have done intercourse all I agree but how much of that was down to Slade we don't know. I certainly think the players will react to him and pull together.
We're not going down anyway it's a massive over reaction
I agree that our position is perilous but I don't think we'll go down, luckily there appears to be a few teams that are even worse than us. The point with appointing someone external is a fresh set of eyes with no pre-conceptions, and can view the players and squad as a whole with a complete clean slate. The players also may just see Wilko as an extension of Slade. Whichever way we decide to go it's going to be a gamble, it's just I think it's slightly less of a gamble with someone with recent management experience.
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Anyone who knows me will know that I am very concerned about the running of GTFC at boardroom level, however I do have some sympathy over having to make another choice of manager. Over recent years the club have tried many ‘types’ of solution. Promote from within similar to the way Liverpool did in their glory years? Groves, Rodger, Woods are hardly a ringing endorsement of this although going back a little further Dave Booth certainly was. Get an experienced manager in some will tell you. In the modern game Russell Slade was about as experienced as they come whilst Mike Newell had also a fair few games under his belt as a manager. Get a younger, up and coming manager? Marcus Bignot seemed like a kid in the sweetshop and not just with a taste for ‘fruitloops’. The above illustrates that it isn’t just the ‘type’ of manager but the man himself who we hope will make the difference. It really does seem that there is a fair amount of ‘luck’ involved in football management selection given that so many are dismissed as failures within 18 months or so. This is far from a Grimsby Town phenomena. Looking at the candidates linked on social media, Phil Brown and Stuart McCall fit the experienced selection, Paul Wilkinson the ‘in-house’ choice whilst Craig Elliott carries the flag for up and coming. Robbie Stockdale gets lots of support but I understand he has not applied but would certainly be interested in chatting if the club asked. I would not rule anyone in, or out, but I would want answers from any candidate to help be see the wood from the trees. Playing style is more important now that maybe in the past, primarily because of the way so many fans saw the reign of Russell Slade. We need a manager who will at least try to play the right way, a passing style but maybe just a winning one for the time being! I hope the board don’t underestimate the value of getting the fans onside for once I would desperately want someone with serious drive & ambition. One of the things that stood out for me about Paul Hurst was his work ethic. Virtually every single night, he and Chris Doig were out watching games, building up a virtual encyclopaedic knowledge of players. I appreciate he wasn’t everyone’s cup of tea but for me he was always likely to be successful because of the effort he put in and the camaraderie he built within his squads. Is drive and ambition limited to the up and coming or even a first time manager? Kevin Phillips, Sol Campbell, Cameron Toshack or Danny Butterfield all fit the ‘first time’ type although Butterfield is a bit left field given his very limited experience. I doubt it would be feasible to get someone like Gary Brazil? An experienced ‘developer’ of talent who has stood in on several occasions as a caretaker at Forest. This choice would get by backing if the club were to go along with my views about trying to build a DNA for GTFC. This involves a policy of bringing our youth players through but also getting ourselves known as a club where youngsters released from higher up the footballing food chain get a chance, provided they have the right attitude. Brazil would be ideal in this sort of ethos and his knowledge of the early 20 somethings at many clubs would be really useful.
Maybe the way to go is a younger guy with an experienced head alongside? A Morecambe and Wise or even a Bignot and Slade!! I think all the above really tells us is that there is no right or wrong. The board just need to do the background checks, speak to people in the game and keep their fingers crossed they get it right, because the wrong choice now could finish the club. Whoever gets the job the fans have little choice but to support him and I sincerely hope they do. The fans don’t pick the manager and a glance at social media will tell you that neither should they! There are nearly as many names as some clubs have fans. A very, very difficult choice but hopefully not an impossible one to get right with thorough process and a large slice of luck
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Good to see you back Chris. I agree with you about the managerial issue and share your concerns about the running of the club. But what can we do about it? Without wanting it to become a debate about the trust, but I know many would say join them if you’re unhappy. My understanding is that the new chair is sympathetic to the current regime and that they have no plans to rock the boat. So that’s not really an option. We need to channel all of this concern in a fan group that will put together a plan for regime change. Ideally led by you Chris. UTM
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Nobody fancy Gary Monk?
Kept Swansea in the Premier League before being sacked for a "big name" who did even worse; Stabilised Leeds, then left due to budget restraints; Had Middlesboro' 8th in the Championship, then got sacked. Replaced by Tony f***ing Pulis and now they are, erm, 9th!
A young Manager WITH experience, and perhaps, if GTFC were prepared to pay him a handsome package (ie excellent bonuses), he might be attracted to the idea of "building".
The alternative is cheap, untried, past it or done nothing!
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Nobody fancy Gary Monk?
Kept Swansea in the Premier League before being sacked for a "big name" who did even worse; Stabilised Leeds, then left due to budget restraints; Had Middlesboro' 8th in the Championship, then got sacked. Replaced by Tony f***ing Pulis and now they are, erm, 9th!
A young Manager WITH experience, and perhaps, if GTFC were prepared to pay him a handsome package (ie excellent bonuses), he might be attracted to the idea of "building".
The alternative is cheap, untried, past it or done nothing!
I think he would be a great choice but sadly I suspect he would rather stick pins in both eyes than come to BP. Fenty won't offer anything like the right money and if he thought Leeds had budget restraints wait till he sees the Grimsby Town budget
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Nobody fancy Gary Monk?
Kept Swansea in the Premier League before being sacked for a "big name" who did even worse; Stabilised Leeds, then left due to budget restraints; Had Middlesboro' 8th in the Championship, then got sacked. Replaced by Tony f***ing Pulis and now they are, erm, 9th!
A young Manager WITH experience, and perhaps, if GTFC were prepared to pay him a handsome package (ie excellent bonuses), he might be attracted to the idea of "building".
The alternative is cheap, untried, past it or done nothing!
Would be a great appointment but never gonna drop to league 2! Perhaps for a Luton/Portsmouth/Coventry calibre club but not a Grimsby Town one unfortunately!
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I don't think anyone has mentioned Dave Challinor (AFC Fylde manager) yet? A former Bury defender, he's overseen Fylde's meteoric rise from the Northern Premier League Division One North in 2011 to the National League play-off positions. I don't imagine that the appointment of someone who has only managed Colwyn Bay and AFC Fylde would set fans' hearts racing, but he could be worth keeping an eye on. It's also worth noting that Fylde's owners are seriously ambitious, with a plan to reach the Football League by 2022 and a brand new stadium recently built, so I'd imagine he's had a good budget to play with. But a manager on a run of form such as his should not be underestimated. He's also won awards for his teams' exemplary disciplinary records, suggesting he's adept at man-management. He'll have a good knowledge of non-league too. Just one to think about. *Edit - Just realised that Challinor is the player that broke Martin Pringle's leg, so not sure how warmly he would be welcomed by Town fans *
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Heres one right out of left field... How bout former England women's manager Mark Sampson? Some baggage admittedly, but I can't see him partaking in any extra-cirriculur activities (allegedly) with any of our players.
Unproven maybe in the professional, men game but clearly very tactically aware, young, fresh ideas. Worth the gamble?!? (awaits the flurry of red crosses)
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godd to see you back Big Chris - have missed your input on here
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So Robbie Stockdale is playing Billy Big balderdash then, I think it is worth a gamble with him, he’ll have new ideas, have loads of knowledge of the better players released by Championship and Premier League clubs. He is, by all accounts, a very good coach who would perhaps be more tactically astute and better at developing players than our last 2 managers. I doubt he’d be that expensive, certainly no more so than Slade. I think we need to hope that we get a dead cat bounce this season and therefore get enough to stay up and then, if we go down that route, accept that Robbie would make some mistakes and then see if he learns from them. As a fanbase we would have to be patient and the board would also have to be prepared for some potentially dodgy signings etc but barring a relegation scrap next season we’d need to stick with him and back his philosophy and ideas. If that type of manager was appointed we’d need to decide on a philosophy and carve out an identity and sign players and use tactics based on that philosophy.
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I heard yesterday that the club are probably looking at an experienced manager, Phil Brown for example
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John Askey reads well and similar mould to Elliot but just get a better feeling about JA.
Would John give us that stability that we need right now, not to mention points for safety?
I think he would, far more than the has been names in the current odds list.
Both mentioned above would be my choice but only based on own research and my opinion that an up and coming Manager is what we need to progress as a club.
I really do feel optimistic but just hope the board seek advice from experienced specialists to help with the recruitment process.
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John Askey reads well and similar mould to Elliot but just get a better feeling about JA.
Would John give us that stability that we need right now, not to mention points for safety?
I think he would, far more than the has been names in the current odds list.
Both mentioned above would be my choice but only based on own research and my opinion that an up and coming Manager is what we need to progress as a club.
I really do feel optimistic but just hope the board seek advice from experienced specialists to help with the recruitment process.
I am totally confused as to why anyone would think Askey would even consider coming to GTFC. As others have pointed out he is Macclesfield through and through, there is precious little difference between Macclesfield and Town plus of course they are currently top of the Conference and could therefore be in L2 with us next season anyway. He's not likely to jump ship at this time and frankly I wouldn't think much of him if he did. Shades of Slade MK1. If however Macclesfield don't go up either automatically or through the playoffs then perhaps it would be a different matter which is why I am so keen for Fenty to wait until May, there may be other good managers from the top 8 or so in the Conference ready to move then (What about the Wrexham bloke if they fail to go up) There is no panic, we are not going to be relegated, I don't get why every sodomist is so worried, it ain't gonna happen, we can afford to wait on the new manager appointment.
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I am totally confused as to why anyone would think Askey would even consider coming to GTFC.
As others have pointed out he is Macclesfield through and through, there is precious little difference between Macclesfield and Town plus of course they are currently top of the Conference and could therefore be in L2 with us next season anyway. He's not likely to jump ship at this time and frankly I wouldn't think much of him if he did. Shades of Slade MK1.
If however Macclesfield don't go up either automatically or through the playoffs then perhaps it would be a different matter which is why I am so keen for Fenty to wait until May, there may be other good managers from the top 8 or so in the Conference ready to move then (What about the Wrexham bloke if they fail to go up)
There is no panic, we are not going to be relegated, I don't get why every sodomist is so worried, it ain't gonna happen, we can afford to wait on the new manager appointment.
Askey has fallen out with the Macclesfield board.
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Askey has fallen out with the Macclesfield board.
He would fit in very well at BP then, our board is very easy to fall out win Its irrelevant anyway there is no chance he's going to resign to come here while they are top of the Conference from a purely personal pride point of view. (if he gets them up he can do the 'ear cupping' insult) If he fails to get them back into the FL the board might well dispense with his services - another reason to wait until May
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So Robbie Stockdale is playing Billy Big balderdash then
Huh? Very strange comment.
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He would fit in very well at BP then, our board is very easy to fall out win
Its irrelevant anyway there is no chance he's going to resign to come here while they are top of the Conference from a purely personal pride point of view. (if he gets them up he can do the 'ear cupping' insult)
If he fails to get them back into the FL the board might well dispense with his services - another reason to wait until May
What? Even when they’re not paying him and the players? Do they not have bills in Macclesfield? More to the point - Macclesfield or Grimsby Town? Come on now, we’ve fallen but not that far...
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I am totally confused as to why anyone would think Askey would even consider coming to GTFC.
As others have pointed out he is Macclesfield through and through, there is precious little difference between Macclesfield and Town plus of course they are currently top of the Conference and could therefore be in L2 with us next season anyway. He's not likely to jump ship at this time and frankly I wouldn't think much of him if he did. Shades of Slade MK1.
If however Macclesfield don't go up either automatically or through the playoffs then perhaps it would be a different matter which is why I am so keen for Fenty to wait until May, there may be other good managers from the top 8 or so in the Conference ready to move then (What about the Wrexham bloke if they fail to go up)
There is no panic, we are not going to be relegated, I don't get why every sodomist is so worried, it ain't gonna happen, we can afford to wait on the new manager appointment.
Grimsby are a division higher and get at least double the gates of Macc even during a bad spell they also have a far greater potential.I would argue a young lower league Manager who believes in himself should be putting everything into getting a job like the Grimsby job.Ok Hurst went to Shrewsbury but get it right here the bigger Clubs from Yorkshire and the Midlands will have you on there radar.
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Had it on good authority from a friend in Cheshire that John Askey was interviewed on Wednesday.
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February 16, 2018, 8:43am |
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Askey is hardly young - he's 53! Still think he is a good candidate tho.
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February 16, 2018, 11:27am |
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He's managed at one club and had no success.
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February 16, 2018, 11:43am |
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John Askey has done an excellent job at Macclesfield on a very very limited budget, he's consistently achieved top half finishes on a bottom 6 budget, some of this has been done without an assistant manager also. From what I remember from his Macclesfield teams playing against us they have been tough to break down and organised, at times going long but also played some good football.
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February 16, 2018, 12:15pm |
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John Askey has done an excellent job at Macclesfield on a very very limited budget, he's consistently achieved top half finishes on a bottom 6 budget, some of this has been done without an assistant manager also. From what I remember from his Macclesfield teams playing against us they have been tough to break down and organised, at times going long but also played some good football.
Town v Macclesfield games played since 2004. --- Team Played Win Draw Lose Grimsby 20 4 8 8 Macclesfield 20 8 8 4 He's not done a bad job against us over the years.
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February 16, 2018, 12:23pm |
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Town v Macclesfield games played since 2004. --- Team Played Win Draw Lose Grimsby 20 4 8 8 Macclesfield 20 8 8 4 He's not done a bad job against us over the years.
Askey was appointed manager in April 2013 after we beat them 3-1, since he's been in charge I'm struggling to think of a time where we actually beat them.
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February 16, 2018, 12:25pm |
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Town v Macclesfield games played since 2004. --- Team Played Win Draw Lose Grimsby 20 4 8 8 Macclesfield 20 8 8 4 He's not done a bad job against us over the years.
Yes but Askey only been boss there since 2003!
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February 16, 2018, 1:25pm |
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Askey was appointed manager in April 2013 after we beat them 3-1, since he's been in charge I'm struggling to think of a time where we actually beat them.
Boxing day away 2014, MacKreth scored right early doors, won 1-0
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February 16, 2018, 1:57pm |
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I don't think you can judge him as a manager from his time with us. The first season he did very well to keep us up, then ITV crippled the club and no manager would have succeeded with no money.
I think he's an excellent coach and the amount of high profile coaching roles he undertakes backs that up. I think Groves realises this and this is the reason why he happy away from the top slot (an assumption, as I've not spoken to him). Maybe in the future, he will try again to be the big dog, and I hope he does and we get to see him back here in our dugout, but that time isn't now.
I don't have a link but if I remember correctly the Bournemouth fans hated him when he was there. But then again I might be wrong because that only happens at Grimsby Town.
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February 16, 2018, 2:05pm |
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I have no idea what you mean.
Yeh, I bet Many on here wont have a clue. I can't remember any dodgy dossier stories in it though.
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February 16, 2018, 7:33pm |
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Seen on Twitter that apparently we approached McCall, turned us down as he is pursuing jobs in Scotland. Bit of a shame but expected
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February 16, 2018, 7:38pm |
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Find that hard to believe that we're approaching someone that hasn't submitted a letter of intent or applied for the job
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February 16, 2018, 7:56pm |
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Seen on Twitter that apparently we approached McCall, turned us down as he is pursuing jobs in Scotland. Bit of a shame but expected
I cannot see anything from any reputable source to back this up.
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February 16, 2018, 8:07pm |
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What? Even when they’re not paying him and the players? Do they not have bills in Macclesfield?
More to the point - Macclesfield or Grimsby Town? Come on now, we’ve fallen but not that far...
It's not a question of how far we've fallen but possibly location. Macclesfield is well place to attract players ( or a managers ) from Lancashire or West Yorkshire who don't have to relocate or incur long and expensive commuting. A lot of fans don't seem to accept that for players with families these are real considerations especially when looking at a 2 or more year deal. Whether you accept it or not AB identified our location as a limiting factor when it came to attracting quality players and I can well imagine the same applies to attracting a quality manage.
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February 16, 2018, 9:17pm |
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We are an EFL L2 club with huge potential at this level.
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February 16, 2018, 10:00pm |
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Find that hard to believe that we're approaching someone that hasn't submitted a letter of intent or applied for the job
Why would you find that hard to believe? Is caked headhunting. Standard practice in the wirld of football, and business in general! Do you think anybody that ever got a job, anywhere, ever have all applied for that job?!?
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February 16, 2018, 10:10pm |
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Boxing day away 2014, MacKreth scored right early doors, won 1-0
Bloody awful weather Cracking day out on the minibus though
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February 16, 2018, 10:19pm |
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Why would you find that hard to believe? Is caked headhunting. Standard practice in the wirld of football, and business in general!
Do you think anybody that ever got a job, anywhere, ever have all applied for that job?!?
It's a fair point and I'm sure it goes on. Just the so called leak made my blood boil as approaches like this should be kept behind closed doors surly? Could potentially put genuine applicants off as they could be deemed inadequate with approaches to non applicants of this kind. Just seems unprofessional for this to be made public if true that's all I'm saying fella
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February 16, 2018, 10:42pm |
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Pretty difficult to keep anything out of the public domain nowadays.
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February 16, 2018, 11:39pm |
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It's a fair point and I'm sure it goes on. Just the so called leak made my blood boil as approaches like this should be kept behind closed doors surly?
Could potentially put genuine applicants off as they could be deemed inadequate with approaches to non applicants of this kind.
Just seems unprofessional for this to be made public if true that's all I'm saying fella
You raise some good points and if the leak has come from someone within the club then it's very poor indeed!
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February 17, 2018, 7:29pm |
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Journo on Twitter saying that the club have approached Stuart McCall and unsurprisingly he's turned us down.
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February 17, 2018, 7:59pm |
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Journo on Twitter saying that the club have approached Stuart McCall and unsurprisingly he's turned us down.
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February 17, 2018, 8:02pm |
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Uwe Rosler now available. Could do worse
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February 17, 2018, 8:08pm |
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Just checked Roslers record out good win percentage as manager tbf..
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February 17, 2018, 8:10pm |
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Uwe Rosler now available. Could do worse
Has he got a magic wand ? because he will need one.
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February 17, 2018, 8:11pm |
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Hagrid, get in touch with your mates from Hogwarts and see if they can do a job!
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February 17, 2018, 8:12pm |
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Get him in tomorrow - nice bonus if he keeps us up and a new contract
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Hagrid, get in touch with your mates from Hogwarts and see if they can do a job!
Even they couldnt help us right now
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February 17, 2018, 8:24pm |
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February 17, 2018, 8:26pm |
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I wouldn't jack my job in to go to a club on a downward spiral, on a 6 month rolling contract, and have a board with no ambition and have to try to pick a team out of a load of shite who I can't get rid of.
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February 17, 2018, 8:27pm |
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Just checked Roslers record out good win percentage as manager tbf..
Yeah - we just need a manager that hasn't won for six weeks. We've had enough of them thanks.
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February 17, 2018, 9:11pm |
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This is a bit left field........
I'd look at Craig Elliot I'd also look at Simon Weaver at Harrogate Town as well............... but neither as Manager but as Assistant Manager/Head Coach to Chris Kinnear from Dover.
Though Kinnear is knocking on a bit he could come in as a Manager/Director of football and mentor a younger man to be his succession when he retires.
This may sound odd but Kinnear has experience of working with no money and is well connected in the non league game similar to Buckely when he arrived. Also if we go down he has the necessary NL experience to potentially make us competitive or at best not end up like York & Stockpot and dropping again.
Might sound odd but is any worse than someone who's been recently sacked or out of work for a few months?
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February 17, 2018, 10:35pm |
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If you want to go left field, and I will now a fix my tin hat, double the salary we intent to pay or whatever it takes and Getz Fatty Evans here, as much as fans may hate him he is proven to be one of the best Managers in the lower leagues over an extended period.
Desperate times require desperate measures and whether or not I like our new Manager I want someone who will turn this club fortunes around and if there is a better bet then Evans name him.
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February 17, 2018, 10:36pm |
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I would have Rosler at GTFC in a heartbeat, he has performed miracles at a tin pit club like Fleetwood and as soon as things get a bit iffy he is shown the door, get him here!
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February 17, 2018, 10:45pm |
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If you want to go left field, and I will now a fix my tin hat, double the salary we intent to pay or whatever it takes and Getz Fatty Evans here, as much as fans may hate him he is proven to be one of the best Managers in the lower leagues over an extended period.
Desperate times require desperate measures and whether or not I like our new Manager I want someone who will turn this club fortunes around and if there is a better bet then Evans name him.
He went to Mansfield for the budget. He's not daft.
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February 17, 2018, 10:58pm |
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He went to Mansfield for the budget. He's not daft.
I appreciate that Ginny but my point is JF could afford to splash some cash if he chose to and an initial outlay with someone like Evans should see a very quick ROI, the current path will cost him as much for all the wrong reasons. Appreciate he will be hurting as much as the rest of us but he is the only guy with the power to actually make a difference.
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Id love the fatman but more chance of getting a Russell Slade mk3
Rosler last 6 games have hardly been terrible. Granted the 3nil loss finally got him the boot but they haven't been getting tonked like us. They've been scoring goals and if it wasn't for a first half sending off, a subsequent penalty and then a last minute goal against them, they would have seen off Scunny
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February 17, 2018, 11:28pm |
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I appreciate that Ginny but my point is JF could afford to splash some cash if he chose to and an initial outlay with someone like Evans should see a very quick ROI, the current path will cost him as much for all the wrong reasons.
Appreciate he will be hurting as much as the rest of us but he is the only guy with the power to actually make a difference.
I think Evans would have crawled here for the job once upon a time, but not now.
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I would appoint Uwe Rosler tomorrow if I could
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February 18, 2018, 7:21am |
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We need movement on the managerial front and fast. Maybe Uwe is the short term fix but what do I know.
Please let's maintain league staus then a complete summer clear out and squad rebuild with a new manager. Do we bring in a new manager now or wait until the summer?
Russian roulette.
Reading on gives some excell options and thoughts about everything. Would be nice to know that these comments are fed back to the board in a structured way?
Come on town let's stick together and get our club back
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I wouldn't jack my job in to go to a club on a downward spiral, on a 6 month rolling contract, and have a board with no ambition and have to try to pick a team out of a load of shite who I can't get rid of.
Think I can see why your application for the post got rejected....
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With Evans I don`t know if it`s the wages he pays players but he has no problems getting them in. Right illegitimate and in my opinion the Town dugout is well overdue one of those .
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We had Rob Scott not so long ago!
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With Evans I don`t know if it`s the wages he pays players but he has no problems getting them in. Right illegitimate and in my opinion the Town dugout is well overdue one of those .
I agree in a way, just wondering what the board think and has he applied or would he be interested. Would love to know the applicants and for the trust/fans to have say on the final 3. Surly we'll have movement this coming week?
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I reckon we could have had Evans at some point over the years but again it's certain elements of our poncy fans that made it quite clear he wasn't wanted as we were to good for him.
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We couldn’t afford him anyway even if we did want him.
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Grim74 |
February 18, 2018, 2:46pm |
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Well if he's willing to come we should break the bank it's our league status at serious risk.
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| Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. Promise a man someone else's fish and he votes Labour. |
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jamesgtfc |
February 18, 2018, 2:52pm |
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On the subject of next manager odds, you can't currently bet on the next Grimsby Town manager on Sky Bet.
Gary Caldwell who someone may have seen on the A180 is 2/1 favourite for Fleetwood though
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BackHeelTony |
February 18, 2018, 4:09pm |
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John Askey now 4/6 favourite with betvictor
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