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I thought he was from Louth  


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Yep let’s get behind him and the lads!


"Falls to Arnold... Arnold! That's it! Thats it! He's sealed it! Grimsby Town are back in the football league!!! Just a minute to go and Nathan Arnold makes it 3-1! Look at the scenes behind the goal! Look at the relief! The agony is finally over!!!"

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Personally I don't want anybody who has had any part in this sham of a few months being made the next manager.

That said, he will have my full support until a new manager comes in or he somehow proves he can take the club forward.
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Yep let’s get behind him and the lads!


Yep, proper Army at Cambridge, not a few stragglers!



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I thought he was from Louth  


Correct


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Wilko out.


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I will be at Cambridge supporting Paul and the team,

Lets get behind him and give him a chance,

For all we know Paul might have offered a lot of advice to Slade and he chose to ignore it.


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I support PW during his caretaker spell but will be horrified if the club even consider making it permanent


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Sometimes the solution is right under your nose. We cannot tar him with the same brush as Slade, because ultimately, the final decisions are the managers to make. It's not like Slade brought Wilko with him and perhaps, the hope was that Wilko would take over one day anyway. Think it may be too early for him now, but while he is in charge, he has a clean slate and will get my backing.
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I thought he was from Louth  


Grimboldby actually. 4 miles from Louth.












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Sometimes the solution is right under your nose. We cannot tar him with the same brush as Slade, because ultimately, the final decisions are the managers to make. It's not like Slade brought Wilko with him and perhaps, the hope was that Wilko would take over one day anyway. Think it may be too early for him now, but while he is in charge, he has a clean slate and will get my backing.


Starts with a clean slate for me too. None of us can know the precise nature of their (Slade & Wilko) working relationship.

Can't really do much worse (!), and it'll be interesting to see the side he sends out at Cambridge.
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He's always got the excuse that he was just following orders. Maybe, just maybe, he can get something from this group of players? Whoever comes has got to work with them, and Wilko knows them inside out. Don't forget Hurst blossomed once the other RS was removed.


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Don't forget Hurst blossomed once the other RS was removed.


To be fair to the much maligned gobshite, we finished in the same position in his last season here as we did in 15/16.


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Grimboldby actually. 4 miles from Louth.



In the village, or on the outskirts ?    



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Wilkinson should have been sacked aswell.


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Wilkinson should have been sacked aswell.


Dont think your right tbh, he was not the decision maker nor did he have any influence on precedings. he wasnt slades man and im told they had a dislike for each other.

Give him a chance, wont be instant but we will improve, but saying that cant get any worse
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I would have sacked him too. Comes across as inarticulate and hardly with it and I can't see how he has stamped his influence on the current set up in any positive way. I don't see any reason to think he can turn us around but we'll see. I sincerely hope we are going all out for a new manager.


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I have tried to listen / watch his interviews on IFollow but I haven't been able to get through any of them. May be unfair but he doesn't seem to have any charisma at all.

Slade and Wilkinson were forced together, Slade didn't appoint him as part of his team so we don't really know what his ideas are on how the game should be played. I don't want to see any more of this excrement we've been served up all season long, it isn't the Grimsby way, let's see what Wilko's ideas are and take it from there. I'm looking forward to his first interview, let's see if I can get through it without nodding off. I'll try and keep an open mind but he is tainted already, character is important in football, let's hope Paul's comes through as I haven't seen anything as yet.
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In my opinion Wilko deserves a chance purely because of that goal he scored against Everton I will never forget it simplistic I know but that’s me


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I have tried to listen / watch his interviews on IFollow but I haven't been able to get through any of them. May be unfair but he doesn't seem to have any charisma at all.
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Neither did Hurst  


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Since when did the ability to give a good interview directly relate to ability to manage a football team?


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In my opinion Wilko deserves a chance purely because of that goal he scored against Everton I will never forget it simplistic I know but that’s me


Get Jevons and Kalala in the backroom staff and then one day we might actually win a cup game.
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Hmmm.Tough one. Plus point, if true, he wasn't Slade's man. Negative, what's he been doing the last year?

Again, if it's true that Slade didn't pick him, what the intercourse was Fenty doing picking a key member of the manager's staff?! If Slade did pick him, you've got to wonder why he didn't go as well. Typical balls up either way.

Come Saturday I'll be cheering the team on. Suspect a lot of people will be there making a loud noise in relief if not in belief. I think the roof will be lifted if we score.


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I'm looking forward to his first interview, let's see if I can get through it without nodding off.


Won't someone  first have to wake you up before it starts though  ? 😎



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Neither did Hurst  


I was aware of that when I typed it!
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Got to give him a chance, I'd say 3 or 4 games will give us an idea of what he can do with the team. Just hope he keeps it all simple, Slades big problem was that he over complicated everything, yet appeared quite scatter-brained with it.
Not remembering how many loanees we had...well Wilko can surely count so he's up on him there. Despite his rather drab interviews Wilko came out of the Matt Dean savaging unscathed (and looked embarrassed by it)  so at least we have a manager who is (hopefully) starting afresh with Radio Humbs.

I'm hopeful that he can at least get us playing functional and even rather average football, as long as it puts points on the board.


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Since when did the ability to give a good interview directly relate to ability to manage a football team?


Always IMO. Communication skills are vital. You have to be able to motivate your players, to get your ideas and philosophy over to your players. If you can't articulate your thoughts, the players won't know their jobs and it all goes wrong. It doesn't matter if you are the greatest tactician in the world, if you can't get that information to your players verbally and clearly then you can't succeed.
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Always IMO. Communication skills are vital. You have to be able to motivate your players, to get your ideas and philosophy over to your players. If you can't articulate your thoughts, the players won't know their jobs and it all goes wrong. It doesn't matter if you are the greatest tactician in the world, if you can't get that information to your players verbally and clearly then you can't succeed.


I agree Vicar, I played and coached under a great coach for about 6/7 years and he was a great coach, new his stuff from top to bottom, lived for the sport could tell you stats from the 1980s off the top of his head, would send you coaching books, send you new drill to do or help you work out what ever problem you had. However when it came to inspiring the players or giving instruction or encouragement or a bollocking. You could see them each one by one slowly switching off, he would shout when he didn't need to or would be quiet when he needed to shout.


I don't mind Roy Keane making £60,000 a week. I was making the same when I was playing. The only difference was I was printing my own - Mickey Thomas

The area you are trying to protect at corners is the goal - Chris Kamara

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I agree Vicar, I played and coached under a great coach for about 6/7 years and he was a great coach, new his stuff from top to bottom, lived for the sport could tell you stats from the 1980s off the top of his head, would send you coaching books, send you new drill to do or help you work out what ever problem you had. However when it came to inspiring the players or giving instruction or encouragement or a bollocking. You could see them each one by one slowly switching off, he would shout when he didn't need to or would be quiet when he needed to shout.


It's a hard thing to do, although you can work on it I think leadership of that kind is a natural talent. I used to run a football team, much out of necessity and I struggled to stand up in front of a load of blokes and articulate my ideas. I tend to work well in small groups, I can lead on the pitch (or I could when I played) but I too found it difficult to put my arm round one player, whilst bollocking another although I am okay at working out how different lads would respond to different methods. I remember asking one lad to track back more and he burst into tears! It's no slight on anyone who struggles, we all have our talents.

Look at the wally with the brolly Steve Maclaren, generally thought of as a brilliant coach yet as a manager apart from brief spells he's been a disaster. Several other examples out there, Steve Clarke, Paul Clements.
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what worries me is that when Bignot was relatively quickly identified as not being good enough Slade was instantly in position ..... Slade has been struggling since December and now we will take our time, not rush....have the board really had their eyes that firmly shut they couldnt see a replacement would be needed and done some homework already ?

Clearly they hope Wilko can scrape a few wins, secure our position which will keep him in the job for this season and avoid having to appoint a new man.  

We need an experienced manager IMO , Wilko isnt...never held a management post as far as i am aware.  

Cheap option ??  Bold gamble ?? Intuitive masterstroke ??



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[quote=32]what worries me is that when Bignot was relatively quickly identified as not being good enough Slade was instantly in position ..... Slade has been struggling since December and now we will take our time, not rush....have the board really had their eyes that firmly shut they couldnt see a replacement would be needed and done some homework already ?

Clearly they hope Wilko can scrape a few wins, secure our position which will keep him in the job for this season and avoid having to appoint a new man.  

We need an experienced manager IMO , Wilko isnt...never held a management post as far as i am aware.  

Cheap option ??  Bold gamble ?? Intuitive masterstroke ??

We will know the answer after the next 3 or 4 games. Hopefully it is the latter.

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It's a hard thing to do, although you can work on it I think leadership of that kind is a natural talent. I used to run a football team, much out of necessity and I struggled to stand up in front of a load of blokes and articulate my ideas. I tend to work well in small groups, I can lead on the pitch (or I could when I played) but I too found it difficult to put my arm round one player, whilst bollocking another although I am okay at working out how different lads would respond to different methods. I remember asking one lad to track back more and he burst into tears! It's no slight on anyone who struggles, we all have our talents.

Look at the wally with the brolly Steve Maclaren, generally thought of as a brilliant coach yet as a manager apart from brief spells he's been a disaster. Several other examples out there, Steve Clarke, Paul Clements.


I'm exactly the same I've had a go as the commander in chief and it was too soon for me (OK I was 22 at the time I started down that road), I'm much better at the small group bit and identifying who needs a bollocking and who just needs a calming word


I don't mind Roy Keane making £60,000 a week. I was making the same when I was playing. The only difference was I was printing my own - Mickey Thomas

The area you are trying to protect at corners is the goal - Chris Kamara

I once said Gazza's IQ was less than his shirt number and he asked me: What's an IQ? - George Best
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Well I hope his man management, coaching and motivational skills are better than his judgement of a player, as if rumours are true, he’s the one who recommended Kelly and Hooper.

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Quoted from AdamHaddock
I support PW during his caretaker spell but will be horrified if the club even consider making it permanent


Even if we win every game ?


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Be interesting to see what difference he can make on Saturday.

I will reserve judgement until we have seen a couple of games.

But bottom line is that he is untried as a manager and we are dangerously close to the relegation zone. I'd feel happier with an experienced hand at the helm, but hey, if we win the next two, Wilko might stake a claim? He has an opportunity, Let's see what he makes of it.
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Be good to see Paul have a go, I went to school with him albeit a couple of years behind, but in Holton Le Clay he was a hero to us younger kids as he was playing for Town colts he also had the best bike - a purple Raleigh chopper with 5 speed and self painted black and white brake and gear cables - why i remember that god knows but that was Paul, then when I went to Toll bar for a year I think Paul was 4th year or 5th year but already heading to great things.


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Lets hope Wilko can put a few of our opponents to the sword now  


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Grimboldby actually. 4 miles from Louth.


For a start it’s grimoldby , not grimboldby so getyourfactsright.
Secondly he’s been part of this fooking shambles so even though I’m Louth I’d boot him as far away from BP as possible . A 90th minute winner at Everton 35 years ago doesn’t buy you immunity.

Oh and take Sam Kelly with you ...


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So that's why you fled to Australia.

You nicked Wilko's bike !
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So that's why you fled to Australia.

You nicked Wilko's bike !


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what worries me is that when Bignot was relatively quickly identified as not being good enough Slade was instantly in position ..... Slade has been struggling since December and now we will take our time, not rush....have the board really had their eyes that firmly shut they couldnt see a replacement would be needed and done some homework already ?

Clearly they hope Wilko can scrape a few wins, secure our position which will keep him in the job for this season and avoid having to appoint a new man.  

We need an experienced manager IMO , Wilko isnt...never held a management post as far as i am aware.  

Cheap option ??  Bold gamble ?? Intuitive masterstroke ??



That seems to suggest the decision to pull the trigger then was driven by Slade's availability.


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It won't be Wilco and if it is I'm giving up.

This is possibly the most important appointment we have ever made in modern times, we must not drop back to the Abyss.


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Wilkinson is a town legend he deserves his chance I really hope he succeeds, and as for being dour well he can't be any more dour than Hurst and it didn't do him any harm.


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what worries me is that when Bignot was relatively quickly identified as not being good enough Slade was instantly in position ..... Slade has been struggling since December and now we will take our time, not rush....have the board really had their eyes that firmly shut they couldnt see a replacement would be needed and done some homework already ?


I think the board, John in particular genuinely believed in Russell, I think they had a good working relationship. I suppose it would be commendable to show that level of trust but it's been obvious for several weeks he had lost the fans, never mind the players and his position was unrecoverable and untenable. In my opinion they waited too long before firing him, but it's probably easier to judge from afar. That or I am a bit naive.
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It was always a risk reappointing Slade. The risk never paid off and to my mind, they should never have taken it.
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Looking purely short term, Paul Wilkinson will know what he has to work with. As we only have 13 matches to preserve our league status it makes sense to me to see if he can breathe new life into our attack. If I were in charge, I would have the attacking players on overtime until we started hitting the back of the net regularly again. It will be interesting to see how the players respond to him. Good luck Paul, we need you to succeed.


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It was always a risk reappointing Slade. The risk never paid off and to my mind, they should never have taken it.


Wonderful thing is hindsight - not that I don't agree by the way - we've got 13 important games and, for that reason only, I would go with experience.
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The obvious choice is Phil brown, who I suspect is still based fairly local.
However my other team Aylesbury United had won just 3 in 22, sacked Glynn creaser ,appointed his coach as full time manager (having failed to win a game as Caretaker) who has now taken 13 points out of 21 and is a complete breath of fresh air, despite most of us wanting a ' new broom'
Think it's obvious that slade n wilko were forced together so,let's give him a chance.he certainly can't do any worse as were going down anyway ...
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Wilkinson is a town legend he deserves his chance I really hope he succeeds, and as for being dour well he can't be any more dour than Hurst and it didn't do him any harm.


Why does he?. read the statement we're recruiting a new manager, he may get a couple of games but that should be it.


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Personally just give Wilko it till the end of the season, as poor as this squad is, unless we're as bad in the last 13 games as we were in the previous 12, we should just about stay up. That gives us plenty of time to get the right man in place for June, and with most of those out of contract (apart from maybe 1 or 2) being released anyway, the new manager will then be more or less in a position to build his own team. The most important thing, apart from staying in the league, is to make sure we get the right man to take the club forward this time....UTM
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I have no inside info but it's my opinion that Wilkinson is nothing like Slade. I'm expecting him to have the team playing a different way once he's had a bit of time to impart is thinking on them.

We might get glimpses of it at Cambridge.

I certainly have no problems him taking caretaker charge. He's been in football forever so knows his stuff. We just have to trust him now anyway.

My belief is that he was brought in by Fenty to 'soften' the return of Slade. I don't think they were alike, but as an assistant you can't be pulling in the opposite direction.

Tar him with the same brush if you like, but I hope he takes this opportunity to show that his footballing philosophies are a far cry from Slade's.


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Wilko is a very good coach, and was a great goal scorer - deserves his chance, and our support.

What about him and Macca as a new duo?


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I hope the fans get behind Wilko he was a legend as a player he`s one of our own by birth and I don`t think this squad is as bad as people make out. I think this appointment is a month too late if we still had Jones to pick in midfield alongside Summerfield we might have had some humph and goals but I think Wilko will give some youngsters a game and get some legs in the team.At least with the crowd behind them they might get a win or two WE WANT GOALS
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I think the board, John in particular genuinely believed in Russell, I think they had a good working relationship. I suppose it would be commendable to show that level of trust but it's been obvious for several weeks  never mind the players and his position was unrecoverable and untenable. In my opinion they waited too long before firing him, but it's probably easier to judge from afar. That or I am a bit naive.


His friendship has clearly interfered with the decision to keep him on longer than he should have.....in the Fenty tapes he said something about do you think i am happy backing someone who is performing so badly.....that comment demonstrated fuzzy thinking.....anyone else would have been gone.
The quotes i posted on another thread, pre sacking, highlighting all the remits Slade has already long missed again shows blind loyalty IMO. Sanctioning the transfer activity...ridiculous.


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Good luck to Paul, I hope we have some better football on view at BP.

My concern is though, the Squad of players Slade has left behind is terrible and unbalanced. Overloaded with Attackers, not much in the middle of the park, an aging defence and more loan players than we can actually play.

We are 9 points clear of the drop currently but most below us have 2 games in hand with some showing signs of recovery.

I think we need a new manger asap as I think leaving PW in charge until the end of the season, someone with no managerial experience in the middle of a relegation fight (make no mistake we are in a relegation fight) reminds me a little too much of when we gave Woods the job.

Who? I haven't really looked yet who is available. I would like to see a manager play a little more attacking football rather than just hit and hope but he'll have to do it with the squad RS has left behind and is that squad capable of playing like that?

Pleased RS is gone but we are still in a mess and I just hope we can find 3 or 4 wins between now and the end of the season.
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Clifton must come into the side now for his passing if nowt else?
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I think that the reason that Paul Wilkinson was not sacked alongside Slade is that it must be common knowledge that Slade did not take a lot of notice of what Wilkinson suggested both in training and on the pitch. I hope this will be apparent on Saturday when we see his team and how they are set up.


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Clifton must come into the side now for his passing if nowt else?


Let’s face it, he couldn’t do any worse than the CMs we’ve been playing in the last few months.


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Let’s face it, he couldn’t do any worse than the CMs we’ve been playing in the last few months.


I agree and kind of hope he proves that point.Not sure who or what we have left in midfield but Clifton and Summerfield should pick themselves.
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A lot of guesswork going on here leading to some strong conclusions.

Many saying Wilkinson should have been sacked and some annoyed/angry that he hasn't. Stating that he's as much to blame for the current situation as Slade. Well, what are you basing that on? It's the manager that decides the tactics, team selection, topics/themes for training and player recruitment. Even when the Manager bounces ideas off the Assistant, it is the Manager's call every time. If the two of them don't agree on something, the Manager will go with his way.

I see many berating PW for us signing Sam Kelly and Hooper.
Well, for starters, other than PW having been at a Club with them before, does anyone actually know he recommended them? No. Maybe he did, but we don't know that.
Let's assume he did. Again, it's the Manager's call to sign them and his responsibility of whether to go off someones recommendation or see them himself. With Hooper, blaming PW is ridiculous because he was on trial with us for a few weeks so Slade signed him based on his trial. Besides, I haven't formed too much of a judgement on Hooper anyway seeing as he's hardly played and at least managed to score a couple of goals.

For all we know, PW could've been influential in bringing in Jaiyesimi who there's an ex-club link with. And most of us would probably agree DJ should've been in the team a lot more than he has this season. So let's look at positive influences as well as negatives, not just cherry pick bits to suit either argument.

Managers never have 100% success with signings anyway. No-one. Alex Ferguson signed some right dross for ManUre over the years (Djemba Djemba, Bellion, Bebe, Taibi etc etc) and he's considered one of the best.

Point is hard to judge someone on what they'd be like as a boss, and be so sure of it as some seem to be, based on a previous role where despite all of his input it would've been someone elses call on the final decisions.


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The Town Web Site says he's in temporary charge until a manager is recruited. Looking at our current situation I doubt even JF would gamble on giving him to the end off the season.

Yes a big name in the history of GTFC but I would not want our hard earned league status gambled on Wilco.



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I think that the reason that Paul Wilkinson was not sacked alongside Slade is that it must be common knowledge that Slade did not take a lot of notice of what Wilkinson suggested both in training and on the pitch. I hope this will be apparent on Saturday when we see his team and how they are set up.


Did he not? 6 of our signings under the bald one were known to Paul Wilkinson and had worked with him before either at Norwich (Kean, Killip, Hall-Johnson, Jaiyesimi & Kelly) or Northampton (Hooper). That's more signings than who had played for the former-PE teacher- 2 (Clarke & Vernam).
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Is Wilkie prepared to play up front?
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The Town Web Site says he's in temporary charge until a manager is recruited. Looking at our current situation I doubt even JF would gamble on giving him to the end off the season.

Yes a big name in the history of GTFC but I would not want our hard earned league status gambled on Wilco.



It's not a gamble. We could appoint somebody at any point. However if we win on Saturday the threat of being dragged into the relegation dog fight decreases. Another couple of wins and it's virtually gone.

The more points Wilko get us (and the more quickly that happens) the more time we have to appoint a permanent successor.
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Did he not? 6 of our signings under the bald one were known to Paul Wilkinson and had worked with him before either at Norwich (Kean, Killip, Hall-Johnson, Jaiyesimi & Kelly) or Northampton (Hooper). That's more signings than who had played for the former-PE teacher- 2 (Clarke & Vernam).


Yes but were they playing Sladeball at there previous clubs.
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Looking at this from the perimeter - it appears that Russell Slade was in place to eliminate the Marcus Bignot signings and select the team.

Paul Wilkinson was in place to coach the players.

Now that Russell's first assignment has been completed, and the second one (selecting the team) did not go very well - then Russell's stint was complete.

Paul Wilkinson is now in place to get some results to the end of the season.

The wild card here is Dave Moore --- now Dave has seen some comings and goings at this club there is no doubt - and every time he has been called upon to step up to running the team - he has been excellent.

I believe, if these 2 have a common bond - through years past - they can work successfully together (with the player resources they have) and see us to the points necessary to secure Football League status.

After that ............


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