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I agree Vicar, I played and coached under a great coach for about 6/7 years and he was a great coach, new his stuff from top to bottom, lived for the sport could tell you stats from the 1980s off the top of his head, would send you coaching books, send you new drill to do or help you work out what ever problem you had. However when it came to inspiring the players or giving instruction or encouragement or a bollocking. You could see them each one by one slowly switching off, he would shout when he didn't need to or would be quiet when he needed to shout.
It's a hard thing to do, although you can work on it I think leadership of that kind is a natural talent. I used to run a football team, much out of necessity and I struggled to stand up in front of a load of blokes and articulate my ideas. I tend to work well in small groups, I can lead on the pitch (or I could when I played) but I too found it difficult to put my arm round one player, whilst bollocking another although I am okay at working out how different lads would respond to different methods. I remember asking one lad to track back more and he burst into tears! It's no slight on anyone who struggles, we all have our talents. Look at the wally with the brolly Steve Maclaren, generally thought of as a brilliant coach yet as a manager apart from brief spells he's been a disaster. Several other examples out there, Steve Clarke, Paul Clements.
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February 11, 2018, 7:50pm |
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what worries me is that when Bignot was relatively quickly identified as not being good enough Slade was instantly in position ..... Slade has been struggling since December and now we will take our time, not rush....have the board really had their eyes that firmly shut they couldnt see a replacement would be needed and done some homework already ?
Clearly they hope Wilko can scrape a few wins, secure our position which will keep him in the job for this season and avoid having to appoint a new man.
We need an experienced manager IMO , Wilko isnt...never held a management post as far as i am aware.
Cheap option ?? Bold gamble ?? Intuitive masterstroke ??
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February 11, 2018, 7:54pm |
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[quote=32]what worries me is that when Bignot was relatively quickly identified as not being good enough Slade was instantly in position ..... Slade has been struggling since December and now we will take our time, not rush....have the board really had their eyes that firmly shut they couldnt see a replacement would be needed and done some homework already ?
Clearly they hope Wilko can scrape a few wins, secure our position which will keep him in the job for this season and avoid having to appoint a new man.
We need an experienced manager IMO , Wilko isnt...never held a management post as far as i am aware.
Cheap option ?? Bold gamble ?? Intuitive masterstroke ??
We will know the answer after the next 3 or 4 games. Hopefully it is the latter.
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February 11, 2018, 7:57pm |
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Quoted from 75
It's a hard thing to do, although you can work on it I think leadership of that kind is a natural talent. I used to run a football team, much out of necessity and I struggled to stand up in front of a load of blokes and articulate my ideas. I tend to work well in small groups, I can lead on the pitch (or I could when I played) but I too found it difficult to put my arm round one player, whilst bollocking another although I am okay at working out how different lads would respond to different methods. I remember asking one lad to track back more and he burst into tears! It's no slight on anyone who struggles, we all have our talents.
Look at the wally with the brolly Steve Maclaren, generally thought of as a brilliant coach yet as a manager apart from brief spells he's been a disaster. Several other examples out there, Steve Clarke, Paul Clements.
I'm exactly the same I've had a go as the commander in chief and it was too soon for me (OK I was 22 at the time I started down that road), I'm much better at the small group bit and identifying who needs a bollocking and who just needs a calming word
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February 11, 2018, 8:06pm |
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Well I hope his man management, coaching and motivational skills are better than his judgement of a player, as if rumours are true, he’s the one who recommended Kelly and Hooper.
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February 11, 2018, 8:11pm |
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I support PW during his caretaker spell but will be horrified if the club even consider making it permanent
Even if we win every game ?
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February 11, 2018, 8:20pm |
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Be interesting to see what difference he can make on Saturday.
I will reserve judgement until we have seen a couple of games.
But bottom line is that he is untried as a manager and we are dangerously close to the relegation zone. I'd feel happier with an experienced hand at the helm, but hey, if we win the next two, Wilko might stake a claim? He has an opportunity, Let's see what he makes of it.
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February 11, 2018, 8:21pm |
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Be good to see Paul have a go, I went to school with him albeit a couple of years behind, but in Holton Le Clay he was a hero to us younger kids as he was playing for Town colts he also had the best bike - a purple Raleigh chopper with 5 speed and self painted black and white brake and gear cables - why i remember that god knows but that was Paul, then when I went to Toll bar for a year I think Paul was 4th year or 5th year but already heading to great things.
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February 11, 2018, 8:37pm |
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Lets hope Wilko can put a few of our opponents to the sword now
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February 11, 2018, 8:39pm |
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Grimboldby actually. 4 miles from Louth.
For a start it’s grimoldby , not grimboldby so getyourfactsright. Secondly he’s been part of this fooking shambles so even though I’m Louth I’d boot him as far away from BP as possible . A 90th minute winner at Everton 35 years ago doesn’t buy you immunity. Oh and take Sam Kelly with you ...
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