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Firstly, i just cant see Slade being sacked BUT, if John Fenty did the right thing and sacked him, then in my opinion i think our very own Ben Davies would be my choice.
He ticks MOST of the boxes that need ticking and his credentials are notable. Hes had a decent 20 year career in football, and worked under some good managers in his time, Sven Goran Erikkson, Nigel Clough, Paul Cook and Paul Hurst to name just a few. All managers who have had good success in their careers. Surely as a player, you MUST learn a great deal from them. He knows our current situation and he knows our players so wouldnt need the time(which we don't have) that someone from the outside would need to assess the players. Davies is someone who is also keen to go into management/coaching and im pretty sure he is doing/done his coaching badges so there is a desire there which is also important. In his playing career hes shown his leadership qualities by being named captain at several clubs and by all accounts a well respected pro, again another plus.
Another obvious plus is that hes already in the building so it isn't going to take a fee to take him from another club and it isn't another wage. there clearly isn't any money available and would be even less if slade was paid off. Its something that has to be taken into account.
Im sure some would argue that he hasnt got the managerial experience and they would be right. However, I would argue that eddie howe also had none when Bournemouth looked destined for the conference in 2010 and how did that turn out again. Id also argue that our current manager Russell Slade has 800 games under his belt and just remind me how thats going. Quite simply, there are clubs up and down the country who are appointing 'young, inexperienced' managers. many are working, many haven't. But id rather our club appoint someone who is young and hungry than someone on the managerial merry-go-round with numerous failures on their CV.
Davies could also bring a more experienced man in his corner any how if he felt he wanted that, whether that be a former coach/manager hes worked with at a previous club, or one of the coaches we currently dave moore/warrington/wilko so for me, there would be the experience many desire.
Many names are being thrown about on social media, but most are very unrealistic. the ones most would want (warburton, mccall, askey) just wouldn't come. Our situation is terrible and they wouldn't even have the ability to bring players in now.
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February 11, 2018, 12:30pm |
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Not for me. I think the last thing we need is someone with no managerial experience coming in at such a crucial time. Plus we’ve had player managers before, to mixed and somewhat limited success.
The only realistic options for me would be for Dave Moore to take the reigns on a temporary basis, until a more permanent, experienced manager is available. The ones that are available don’t exactly inspire me with confidence though.
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jimgtfc |
February 11, 2018, 12:32pm |
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I completely agree as long as he wants to go into management. People talk about up and coming managers all the time, why do they have to come from another club? I think I’m right in saying he lives locally and his family are settled in the area. Give him the job, help him with his coaching badges and maybe we might just unearth a gem from within.
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Dave Moore with Ben Davies both passionate with experience if we go out the league it will be with a fight unlike what’s happening now and what happened before with woods
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February 11, 2018, 12:54pm |
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I know he has got his coaching badges, not sure what level, mind. I was sat near his family in the main stand earlier in the season. They said he’s too nice to go into management . Guess they would think that though! Lovely bunch!
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HertsGTFC |
February 11, 2018, 12:55pm |
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Not for me. I think the last thing we need is someone with no managerial experience coming in at such a crucial time. Plus we’ve had player managers before, to mixed and somewhat limited success.
The only realistic options for me would be for Dave Moore to take the reigns on a temporary basis, until a more permanent, experienced manager is available. The ones that are available don’t exactly inspire me with confidence though.
Mike Flynn is doing well at Newport, I think he came up through the ranks about this time last year when they where in the same predicament. He does the coaching and team stuff and it looks like Lawrence does the General Manager bit. Why would Dave Moore be "realistic" Town through and through for sure but I am not even sure he has a coaching qualification. I would get it if Davis packed up playing and took on the role of coach and Dave took the reigns until the end of the season at least.
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DocDock |
February 11, 2018, 1:01pm |
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Mike Flynn is doing well at Newport, I think he came up through the ranks about this time last year when they where in the same predicament. He does the coaching and team stuff and it looks like Lawrence does the General Manager bit.
Why would Dave Moore be "realistic" Town through and through for sure but I am not even sure he has a coaching qualification. I would get it if Davis packed up playing and took on the role of coach and Dave took the reigns until the end of the season at least.
He’s realistic in so much he’s taken over on a temporary basis in the past when the ship needed steadying and if going by his previous temporary reign he would have no intentions of taking the job full time. From a financial standpoint it’d make sense too.
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February 11, 2018, 1:57pm |
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It's the sort of thing that works at other clubs. Would probably be a disaster here. Everything we do usually is and it's more deeply rooted than managerial level.
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February 11, 2018, 2:30pm |
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For me, now is not the time to be gambling on someone with no managing or even coaching experience.
I know every appointment is a gamble to some extent but you should have an idea of what you're likely go get with someone of some level of experience. Some "first manager's job" appointments work and others don't. But in our position I'd really rather we didn't take such a gamble. Especially with someone who as far as I know hasn't actually coached, let alone Managed.
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February 11, 2018, 3:03pm |
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For me, now is not the time to be gambling on someone with no managing or even coaching experience.
I know every appointment is a gamble to some extent but you should have an idea of what you're likely go get with someone of some level of experience. Some "first manager's job" appointments work and others don't. But in our position I'd really rather we didn't take such a gamble. Especially with someone who as far as I know hasn't actually coached, let alone Managed.
I get what you’re saying Tommy but is this really such a bad situation for a manager to take on from their perspective? We’ve got 13 games left, despite our dismal form we’re not the favourites for relegation neither are we in the drop zone. We could be saved by 3 wins and a couple of draws, that’s a win percentage of less than 30% needed. And if we were ‘saved’ by a new gaffer he would be adored. Surely any change would spark the team little into some form, and can you imagine the positive reaction it would bring from the fans? Slade is so hated, that I think his departure could put a thousand on the next home gate. It could be a bit of a free hit for an incoming manager who would then be set up for next season. Personally I’d rather see someone like Ben get the job (again, provided he wants it) than another Slade type appointment of someone with supposed experience. I really think the fans could get behind him.
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February 11, 2018, 3:07pm |
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The reason I like an 'inside' appointment, is the fact they know the players strengths/weakness' already. It's why I felt that Dizza should've been given a role in the coaching set up.
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February 11, 2018, 3:11pm |
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I suggested this a couple of weeks back but it was Ben with Danny Collins,
Most on here disagreed with me,
As you point out it would cost us anything and if is only to the end of the season,
He can not be as bad as Slade that's for sure.
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