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Alfie
February 11, 2018, 10:10am
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If Slade goes today. Who replaces him?

Some realistic names:

Gary Caldwell
Phil Brown
Jim Bentley
Simon Weaver
Gary Brazil
Kevin Phillips
James Beattie
Sol Campbell
Sean O’Driscoll
Robbie Neilson
Alan Stubbs
Pep Clotet
Paul Simpson
Stuart McCall

What sort of candidate do we go for?
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Stuart McCall if he would come to us would be a good replacement. I know he just got sacked by Bradford but they were in sixth place in L1.
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February 11, 2018, 10:18am
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The trouble is managers talk to each other, as do players. I understand we do not have a good reputation in the footballing world as the club is run by clowns with no foresight, who expect miracles without the groundwork. Paul Daniels would have been my choice, even in death he is probably a better choice than most of the above.

If pressed, I would suggest Phil Brown but I am not sure he is attainable. I would want us to go outside of the club for the backroom staff as well, a complete sweep of the management team. A fresh outlook and stop the short term 'fixes', he should be a footballing manager as that is how we like our football at Grimsby, we should be looking to sign players under 25 years old with a view to the future, a mix of experience amongst mostly youth. Look to released players from the Championship and Premier League and hungry players from the National league and below.
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If he’s as serious as he made out on talksport the other week about taking any management position  I’d have sol Campbell. He’d give the club a massive lift and surely get a response from the players , enough to keep us up and attract better  new players for next year .


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Rumours of disagreements with the board at Bradford for McCall. He would be a great appointment on paper but if he can't agree with their board, what chance has he got of getting on with ours?

We have no chance of Weaver at Harrogate because his dad is the owner.
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Quoted from Alfie
If Slade goes today. Who replaces him?

Some realistic names:

Gary Caldwell
Phil Brown
Jim Bentley
Simon Weaver
Gary Brazil
Kevin Phillips
James Beattie
Sol Campbell
Sean O’Driscoll
Robbie Neilson
Alan Stubbs
Pep Clotet
Paul Simpson
Stuart McCall

What sort of candidate do we go for?


None of them until the end of the season. Look at the list then plus any others who become available by May/ June (lets be honest 99% of 'available' managers are available as they have been sacked)

Dave Moore till then in order to avoid relegation then QUICKLY (having carefully and fully utilised the period from now to make a careful selection) go for whoever before someone else does and in good time for him to sort out new faces in the Summer transfer window



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February 11, 2018, 10:20am

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Most of those managers have been at a good standard and have spent money.  I think id much rather have a up and coming manager than merry go'round one who relies on money.


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I would welcome Stuart McCall.

In the short term, a mix of Ben Davies, Danny Collins and Dave Moore to reinstall discipline and values until the end of the Season.

First things first, will JF swallow his pride, put his hand in his pocket and sack Slade??!!!
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Let's see who's available in 2 years time when Slade doesn't need paying off. That's how long it's gonna take the bunch of muppets that fu(king run this club to realise we're in the excrement


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Quoted from louth_in_the_south
If he’s as serious as he made out on talksport the other week about taking any management position  I’d have sol Campbell. He’d give the club a massive lift and surely get a response from the players , enough to keep us up and attract better  new players for next year .


Great shout - I was very impressed with him in that interview. He is so desperate to get into management and would probably even consider GTFC and the impact on the dressing room would be immense Tap him up now BUT DON'T APPOINT HIM UNTIL MAY, can't throw the poor fella straight into a relegation fight with a team of on loans and other sundry dossers. Dave Moore until then



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There are some good out of work managers at present.


"You should do what you love while you can"
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Those suggesting Davies or Collins (add to that Disley, Macca, or any other ex-player with no experience) are crackers, in my opinion, this is not the time for a gamble (I know every manager is a gamble, but less so when they actually managed a club!) when the Conference is staring us in the face.
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There are some good out of work managers at present.


But why are they out of work? And are they that desperate to get back into work that they would want to come to GTFC and work with Fenty and old 'Shut Up'? If they have all been sacked and paid off they will all be having a nice paid rest rather than jumping into a intercourse up like Grimsby Town post Slade

At least Sol Campbell hasn't been sacked anywhere yet!


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Long term I wouldn't  mind taking a punt on Luke Garrard at Boreham Wood. We had the right idea when appointing Bignot just unfortunately the board obviously didn't put any effort into researching what he was like because he was definitely not the right man. But a young up and coming manager who will know which players are worth snapping up from non-league would be potentially a risk worth taking.

Boreham Wood are the smallest club in the National League by some distance, not even averaging 700 at home games and as far as I'm aware they don't have a sugar daddy pumping money in. They get a bit of money from letting Arsenal use their ground for their reserves, women's team and youth team but other than that not a lot. They're currently sixth, six points behind the leaders and with a goal difference of +15. If they win their game in hand, they'll go ahead of Tranmere and only be just behind Pearson's Wrexham. Garrard has only been there for two years and he's only 32, the youngest manager in the top five divisions. When we took Bignot, Solihull were 17th and with a negative goal difference and that was after he'd been there for almost five seasons so it's not really all that surprising that he was a disaster. If we were going to go down the route of up and coming manager again, then Garrard would be my choice.
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I don't think most on that list would come here.
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Stuart McCall. Though he has been sacked after a bad run in the last 6 games or so Bradford are still in a play off position.

Whoever comes in will need to be able to set up what is in essence a set of National League players to win 14 points in 13 games.

Don't get too excited ladies & gents John will have done sweet FA to move Salde on.  


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Long term I wouldn't  mind taking a punt on Luke Garrard at Boreham Wood. We had the right idea when appointing Bignot just unfortunately the board obviously didn't put any effort into researching what he was like because he was definitely not the right man. But a young up and coming manager who will know which players are worth snapping up from non-league would be potentially a risk worth taking.

Boreham Wood are the smallest club in the National League by some distance, not even averaging 700 at home games and as far as I'm aware they don't have a sugar daddy pumping money in.


But all his contacts and scouting knowledge would be southern based you'd have thought? Though that hasn't bothered the Cowley's.

I would be strongly against Sol Campbell, sick of his claims of racism. He was moaning a while back he should have captained England more than Beckham.
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I don't care who the next manager is to be quite frank as long as they play exciting attractive football and have tactical know how, can get players playing and score a illegitimate goal.

The main thing I'm bothered about is that we're looking for a new manager sooner rather than later.

The only thing keeping me relatively sane at the moment (although if you know me you'll question that!) is that Bignot was sacked on a Monday.

intercourse it UTM


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Long term I wouldn't  mind taking a punt on Luke Garrard at Boreham Wood. We had the right idea when appointing Bignot just unfortunately the board obviously didn't put any effort into researching what he was like because he was definitely not the right man. But a young up and coming manager who will know which players are worth snapping up from non-league would be potentially a risk worth taking.

Boreham Wood are the smallest club in the National League by some distance, not even averaging 700 at home games and as far as I'm aware they don't have a sugar daddy pumping money in. They get a bit of money from letting Arsenal use their ground for their reserves, women's team and youth team but other than that not a lot. They're currently sixth, six points behind the leaders and with a goal difference of +15. If they win their game in hand, they'll go ahead of Tranmere and only be just behind Pearson's Wrexham. Garrard has only been there for two years and he's only 32, the youngest manager in the top five divisions. When we took Bignot, Solihull were 17th and with a negative goal difference and that was after he'd been there for almost five seasons so it's not really all that surprising that he was a disaster. If we were going to go down the route of up and coming manager again, then Garrard would be my choice.


I'd take him in a shot but he wouldn't come to us Matt, why would he? whats the attraction?

Borehamwood don't have  a sugar daddy as such but they do have a couple of people behind them with a bit of cash who have been buying up the equity in the club in recent years, A colleague of mine family actually started the club and they have just sold their remaining stake, not for millions but that in itself would suggest they have plans to move forward, Though you have Stevenage, Watford and Barnet nearby that area is densly populated and could easily sustain another league club - watch this space!


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But all his contacts and scouting knowledge would be southern based you'd have thought? Though that hasn't bothered the Cowley's.

I would be strongly against Sol Campbell, sick of his claims of racism. He was moaning a while back he should have captained England more than Beckham.


Like you said, it hasn't stopped the Cowleys. He's been managing in the NL which is not a regional league, he'll know the players in that division and more than likely know some the level below who might be up to the job as well.
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If the Cowleys leave lincoln i can definitely see them going in for another manager in NL.  

I quite like the Woking manager ok he might not be high up in the league but he's the type of manager that wouldnt take any shite.  He's young too.


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Dean Keates
Robbie Stockdale
Anthony Limbrick
Luke Gerrard
Phil Brown
Stuart McCall
Sol Campbell
Danny Collins (surely he's worth a try)

Or how about a young coach at a premiership or championship club who would like to cut their teeth as a manager
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Why would a half decent manager come to GTFC at the moment?

Not a sarcastic question just I'm not sure it's exactly a plumb job.



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If the Cowleys leave lincoln i can definitely see them going in for another manager in NL.  

I quite like the Woking manager ok he might not be high up in the league but he's the type of manager that wouldnt take any shite.  He's young too.


Definitely not. Woking have only won twice in 13 games.
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Stuart McCall the outstanding candidate available but maybe too soon after Bradford? Play off final last year and still in play offs this year. Only sacked as he fell out with board.

We should push the boat out and get him.
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Definitely not. Woking have only won twice in 13 games.


Once more than us then


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flipping Sol Campbell? Jesus. Has he knocked running for Parliament on the head then?
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Stuart McCall the outstanding candidate available but maybe too soon after Bradford? Play off final last year and still in play offs this year. Only sacked as he fell out with board.

We should push the boat out and get him.


I'd say that there would be a lot more attractive propositions than coming to manage town at the moment, wether that's McCall, brown, Campbell or any proven manager. Unless, and I doubt this will happen, they are given significant funds to develop a squad, and not have the utter sh1te that is currently on show.

Basically. We're fu(ked


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I'd say that there would be a lot more attractive propositions than coming to manage town at the moment, wether that's McCall, brown, Campbell or any proven manager. Unless, and I doubt this will happen, they are given significant funds to develop a squad, and not have the utter sh1te that is currently on show.

Basically. We're fu(ked


What a load of crap. A team that won’t take a lot to stay up, big history, great fan base, huge potential to grow and not much scope to go downwards. Decent budget with loads of options to rebuild in the summer. It’s a really attractive job for a load of folk.
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I'd say that there would be a lot more attractive propositions than coming to manage town at the moment, wether that's McCall, brown, Campbell or any proven manager. Unless, and I doubt this will happen, they are given significant funds to develop a squad, and not have the utter sh1te that is currently on show.

Basically. We're fu(ked


It's well known that the first question any applicant would consider is "how much money do I have to spend" that's why there are so many average managers not working in the game these days........... The really good ones get the best out of limited resource on and off the pitch.

We are indeed fu(ked!


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An up and coming manager. See if we can poach Ebbsfleet's McMahon, either now or in the summer. Recent promotion on his CV


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The trouble is managers talk to each other, as do players. I understand we do not have a good reputation in the footballing world as the club is run by clowns with no foresight, who expect miracles without the groundwork. Paul Daniels would have been my choice, even in death he is probably a better choice than most of the above.

If pressed, I would suggest Phil Brown but I am not sure he is attainable. I would want us to go outside of the club for the backroom staff as well, a complete sweep of the management team. A fresh outlook and stop the short term 'fixes', he should be a footballing manager as that is how we like our football at Grimsby, we should be looking to sign players under 25 years old with a view to the future, a mix of experience amongst mostly youth. Look to released players from the Championship and Premier League and hungry players from the National league and below.


I don't know for sure but I bet your first paragraph is spot on. Obviously all the football people talk to each other all the time and the word will have gone round that we are in a total mess from top to bottom.

i suppose the only positive is that the only way is up, and if we could attract somebody who relishes a challenge...
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I don't know for sure but I bet your first paragraph is spot on. Obviously all the football people talk to each other all the time and the word will have gone round that we are in a total mess from top to bottom.

i suppose the only positive is that the only way is up, and if we could attract somebody who relishes a challenge... [/quote]

I agree re BP Vicars first paragraph. I'll ask it again why would someone even from the NL come to us? All we can hope for is an "old lag" who has no transferable skills outside of football and just drifts from ob to job before taking up a scouting role "for a mate" in the game............ wait a minute maybe we have one on that pathway currently?

If he goes and it's a big if the advert should read,

WANTED -Miracle worker

Successful applicant must be able to demonstrate experience in parting seas, turning water into wine, feeding thousands with a few loaves and fishes and most importantly raising the dead.


Ladies & gents to stop us going down we need divine intervention.

    


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Kevin Davies- probably too early but seems the type of bloke who had lots of experience at all levels and wasn't afraid to take his first managers job in non league. One to watch perhaps.

I wouldn't rule out a first time manager, sometimes total commitment and enthusiasm is infectious rather than someone who has been sacked and part of the merrygoround.

EVERY manager is a risk
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How about raiding Boston United again, Craig Elliott has done a marvelous job at York street since taking charge  on 12th November 2017, the team that were bottom of Conference North are now 11th place and just outside the playoffs.I've watched them a couple of times since he's taken charge and he's got the team playing some exciting stuff and the whole club is buzzing with expectation .Yesterday for example Town were trailing  3 nil by the 61st minute but pulled it back to 3-3 by end of match,surely down to change of tactics or inspired substitutions but either way down to management.

Below, taken from The Nonleague paper ----------
Craig Elliott has joined Boston United. His track record as a manager is second-to-none within the non-league system over the past few years, which has seen him take Shaw Lane to the top of the Evo-Stik Northern Premier Division with three promotions in four seasons.
"Not only has he been successful, but has been consistently successful.
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What a load of crap. A team that won’t take a lot to stay up, big history, great fan base, huge potential to grow and not much scope to go downwards. Decent budget with loads of options to rebuild in the summer. It’s a really attractive job for a load of folk.


In theory this should be the case. But look at us now? Why do you think that is? Why have we failed to capitalise on that fanbase and history? The same reason would deter some serious candidates.


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McCall or Brown would be very positive appointments if they'd do it.

It's a bit hard to stomach people demanding Slade be sacked and then moaning that nobody decent will do it and it's bound to turn out sh1t.


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How about raiding Boston United again, Craig Elliott has done a marvelous job at York street since taking charge  on 12th November 2017, the team that were bottom of Conference North are now 11th place and just outside the playoffs.I've watched them a couple of times since he's taken charge and he's got the team playing some exciting stuff and the whole club is buzzing with expectation .Yesterday for example Town were trailing  3 nil by the 61st minute but pulled it back to 3-3 by end of match,surely down to change of tactics or inspired substitutions but either way down to management.

Below, taken from The Nonleague paper ----------
Craig Elliott has joined Boston United. His track record as a manager is second-to-none within the non-league system over the past few years, which has seen him take Shaw Lane to the top of the Evo-Stik Northern Premier Division with three promotions in four seasons.
"Not only has he been successful, but has been consistently successful.


I get what your saying but expecting him to jump 2 divisions into a relegation dog fight and a sh1t storm off the pitch would be way too much.



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Simon Grayson gone to Bradford.
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Grayson just been appointed Bradford boss
Best we could hope for is a 'been around the block' journeyman or an up and coming non league manager
The latter would be ideal - we've had success and failure with that one

Cannot see a Sol Campbell southern-based type being remotely interested coming to a place like Grimsby

A Phil Brown sort is about the best we could hope for from the merry go round
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The problem is has JF ever got an appointment right? He even got Hurst wrong for the first couple of seasons with Scott tagging along.

If Slade goes it will be 3 managers in 16 months with both Hurst & Bignot having a bit to say about their previous employers when they left.

People work for people - That tells you everything about our current situation.    


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Sol Campbell seems like a massive tosspot.

I’d go for Phil Brown or McCall. Despite the fact they’re old hasbeens, they’ve at least had some relative success recently. Going for a non-league manager is fine as long as we put the research in, so we don’t end up with another Bignot situation.

I don’t think it’s a good idea to have the senior players and Dave Moore take control, simply because they don’t have any experience of it and there’s over 30 players to take charge of (Dave Moore being caretaker 20 times does not count).


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I would take an actual Gibbon over Slade any day of the week, never mind an experienced manager


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The problem is has JF ever got an appointment right? He even got Hurst wrong for the first couple of seasons with Scott tagging along.

If Slade goes it will be 3 managers in 16 months with both Hurst & Bignot having a bit to say about their previous employers when they left.

People work for people - That tells you everything about our current situation.    


I think personally thats bit harsh on JF herts.  How can he foresee that scott would be a lunny.  


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I get what your saying but expecting him to jump 2 divisions into a relegation dog fight and a sh1t storm off the pitch would be way too much.



I understand what you are saying with reference to off the pitch situation,as Boston are a very steady ship under the ownership of Mr.Newton.
I wouldn't think jumping up two divisions would make much difference to player management as most of our squad are definitely not up to league football and when Craig Elliott took over at Boston the team were a right shamble,full of has beens that the previous manager had brought in, sound familiar ?.
I'm hoping Town go for this sort of manager rather than someone that is on the slippery slope down to a final payday, as the one we have now.

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I think personally thats bit harsh on JF herts.  How can he foresee that scott would be a lunny.  


I believe Scott was the first to tell everybody how much the board support the manager by saying 'we've got no fuckin money'


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I understand what you are saying with reference to off the pitch situation,as Boston are a very steady ship under the ownership of Mr.Newton.
I wouldn't think jumping up two divisions would make much difference to player management as most of our squad are definitely not up to league football and when Craig Elliot took over at Boston the team were a right shamble,full of has beens that the previous manager had brought in, sound familiar ?.
I'm hoping Town go for this sort of manager rather than someone that is on the slippery slope down to a final payday, as the one we have now.



Yeah agree with that we need someone who falls into that bracket rather than an "old lag". I personally thought we had that with Bignot until he opened his mouth and sent a team out for a couple of games.    

I guess my reticence about the lad from Boston is that he has no time and poor playing resource. If lads like that come up at the start of the season then I completely get it. Who knows tough it would be hard for him to do any worse than Slade at the moment.    


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I think personally thats bit harsh on JF herts.  How can he foresee that scott would be a lunny.  


Ask people who knew him before he appointed him, usually people don't change their behaviors. I guess you never know with a a manger but JF always seems to fail to do the necessary due diligence when he appoints a manager.

If he sacks Salde he needs to take some conscientious from inside the game, it does feel like JF lacks any trusted football people around him  


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Yeah agree with that we need someone who falls into that bracket rather than an "old lag". I personally thought we had that with Bignot until he opened his mouth and sent a team out for a couple of games.    

I guess my reticence about the lad from Boston is that he has no time and poor playing resource. If lads like that come up at the start of the season then I completely get it. Who knows tough it would be hard for him to do any worse than Slade at the moment.    


Lets be honest we're stuck

The only managers who would be desperate enough to come to work for Fenty (and us) are a load of past it old timers who have been sacked elsewhere recently The other alternative is some so-called up and coming young manager no fornicator has heard of from a team no fornicator has heard of either.

Everyone raves about the Cowleys but they went to a club with owners who had money to spend as opposed to one whose owner wants out and his money back.

Hurst (how many years to get us out of non-league?) and Bignot (who? from Solihull what?) were hardly great successes never mind instant answers to our increasing by the day relegation fears



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Lets be honest we're stuck

The only managers who would be desperate enough to come to work for Fenty (and us) are a load of past it old timers who have been sacked elsewhere recently The other alternative is some so-called up and coming young manager no fornicator has heard of from a team no fornicator has heard of either.

Everyone raves about the Cowleys but they went to a club with owners who had money to spend as opposed to one whose owner wants out and his money back.

Hurst (how many years to get us out of non-league?) and Bignot (who? from Solihull what?) were hardly great successes never mind instant answers to our increasing by the day relegation fears



I think many on here would have one or the other back in a heartbeat as opposed to the current incumbent.
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I think many on here would have one or the other back in a heartbeat as opposed to the current incumbent.


Bignot maybe but the ear-cupping Yorkie dwarf twit no thanks


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Neither Mccall or brown have ever worked in the 4th div/non league without a pot to urine in
Neither have the experience at this level anyway?


Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  
Update:  I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly
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Neither Mccall or brown have ever worked in the 4th div/non league without a pot to urine in
Neither have the experience at this level anyway?


Factually incorrect.

So someone of a poorer calibre then mate, yeah?


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Neither Mccall or brown have ever worked in the 4th div/non league without a pot to urine in
Neither have the experience at this level anyway?


Incorrect, both have experience at league 2 level, McCall a fair few years ago and Brown actually achieved promotion from league 2 4 years ago.
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What makes you think we have any money for another manager?

An internal option might be the only option.

One thing is certain even if Slade somehow keeps here. Next seasons ticket sales look bleak with him at the helm which means the directors/shareholders are going to have to put more dosh in.
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We are following the York City model of getting back into  the league after a few too many seasons in non league, then totally getting everything wrong. We even have their dynamic duo in midfield, just to make it a bit more authentic. They had four managers in the four seasons they were back in the league, before their luck ran out. Both Worthington and Wilcox saved them from relegation in subsequent seasons with 4 wins from the last 5 games, but they learned nothing and fell 2 divisions.

I fear that whatever we do, it will be the wrong move. It almost always is.
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If Slade ever goes what's needed is to take a deep breath and time to not just to consider a new manager but the first thing should be where the club is going and the goals short, medium and long term, getting as much advice as possible from people who know about football and then to look long and hard which manager would fit those goals best.

I would let Dave Moore take over for what is left of the season (he would keep us up) and then early in the closed season appointed the best man.

A note to that though, I have no confidence whatsoever in Mr Fenty ever getting it right in appointing a manager.


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Would it be naive to think that he (fenty) has already spoken to people about what would happen if scenarios?


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If Slade ever goes what's needed is to take a deep breath and time to not just to consider a new manager but the first thing should be where the club is going and the goals short, medium and long term, getting as much advice as possible from people who know about football and then to look long and hard which manager would fit those goals best.

I would let Dave Moore take over for what is left of the season (he would keep us up) and then early in the closed season appointed the best man.

A note to that though, I have no conference whatsoever in Mr Fenty ever getting it right in appointing a manager.


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How long are this bunch of players contracted for? Don't most of them have another season with us after this one?

Whatever manager we have, I think this bunch of players are mid-table at best.

Will be 2019/20 season before we get any sniff of promotion with this bunch.  
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Sol Campbell is a very moody individual and would not last five minutes with the equally moody JF
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We are in a perfect storm 16 years of mismanagement and under resourcing have took their toll.Fenty your chickens are coming home to roost and you have eventually been found out.


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Factually incorrect.

So someone of a poorer calibre then mate, yeah?


How is it?


Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  
Update:  I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly
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Incorrect, both have experience at league 2 level, McCall a fair few years ago and Brown actually achieved promotion from league 2 4 years ago.


Mccall was manager of Bradford.  He managed a club with 5x the fan base
They get 20k a game



Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  
Update:  I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly
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I am always surprised by comments re our apparent lack of a playing budget, when Bignot came in JF backed him by allowing 9 new players join the club, Slade similarly has brought in more than a team during his short stay and I have heard Managers moan about training facilities, back room staff, fitness coach but never about support in the transfer market.

Where JF makes mistakes is allowing Managers to bring in quantity rather than quality. We can have the same budget with a much smaller squad and hopefully attract better players. I would think we have a competitive budget, loads of players contracts are up, others can be paid off so I still think we are a pretty attractive option if you want to be a Manager.

Let’s be honest lots of Managers out of work, lots of coaches with over 100 full-time clubs in England plus lots of ex-players who want to be Managers some of whom will be wealthy guys in their own right so will want the job for professional reasons rather than necessity.

No idea what standards are like over in Ireland or whether there are potential managers over there who may also know where some hidden talents may also be available.

Whatever, think when we get down to selecting the new manager we should have a decent group to select from.
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I am always surprised by comments re our apparent lack of a playing budget, when Bignot came in JF backed him by allowing 9 new players join the club, Slade similarly has brought in more than a team during his short stay and I have heard Managers moan about training facilities, back room staff, fitness coach but never about support in the transfer market.

Where JF makes mistakes is allowing Managers to bring in quantity rather than quality. We can have the same budget with a much smaller squad and hopefully attract better players. I would think we have a competitive budget, loads of players contracts are up, others can be paid off so I still think we are a pretty attractive option if you want to be a Manager.

Let’s be honest lots of Managers out of work, lots of coaches with over 100 full-time clubs in England plus lots of ex-players who want to be Managers some of whom will be wealthy guys in their own right so will want the job for professional reasons rather than necessity.

No idea what standards are like over in Ireland or whether there are potential managers over there who may also know where some hidden talents may also be available.

Whatever, think when we get down to selecting the new manager we should have a decent group to select from.


I agree and whoever comes in will have plenty of scope because the players contracted for next season only number about half a dozen i think- without checking.

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It will be a journeyman L1 or L2 foot soldier... John Sheridan?
Won't risk another Bignot type - ie: from non league, young and with potential

And all these suggestions about Shakespeare, Appleton etc...who the f*ck do people think we are?
A thriving, on the rise Championship club?!

We have no cash, a clapped out ground, 17th in L2 - get real folks
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