Asante Gone

i took the JF conversation to indicate  he felt Asante wasnt training or trying or needed to pull his finger out in someway...hence then calling him what he did...not defending that in anyway by way .

As i said, i will never know as i know neither party personally to form a trusted opinion.

Most of us have enough masochistic intrigue to follow his short term career from here so one way or another we will keep an eye on him.

Quoted from sam gy

One can guess that he wasn’t pulling up any trees seen as he’s never got near Slade’s squad, and he couldn’t get in the team when he was fit under Bignot either.

Fair enough he wasn’t given a chance but there’s a serious threat of relegation and It doesn’t seem to be the right time to give him a chance now!

Harsh but I would be surprised to see him in LG 2 again.

Not disputing whether he was any good. I'm questioning what evidence there was about his 'attitude'. All we've got his Fenty's throwaway remark when he didn't think many were listening. And to be honest, I wouldn't place much store on what he said.

And half the players Slade signed himself never got near the squad.

Don't think there was long when he was fit during Bignot's tenure.

Quoted from chaos33

Are you able to comment on why JF might have called him what he did? Seems very much an extreme response to me.....

If you're trying to get rid of someone who won't go cheaply then it might cause you to curse about them!

Quoted from sam gy

One can guess that he wasn’t pulling up any trees seen as he’s never got near Slade’s squad, and he couldn’t get in the team when he was fit under Bignot either.

Fair enough he wasn’t given a chance but there’s a serious threat of relegation and It doesn’t seem to be the right time to give him a chance now!

Harsh but I would be surprised to see him in LG 2 again.

I'm beginning to think you are one of the JF squad as you always seem to come down on the club's side.

Your comment is basically silly as regards a serious threat of relegation so it isn't the right time to play him, when we aren't scoring goals and now Slade is relying on loanees who are not that prolific.

It seems to me that JF and RS would rather see us relegated than play one of Bignot's signings.

Quoted from sam gy

One can guess that he wasn’t pulling up any trees seen as he’s never got near Slade’s squad, and he couldn’t get in the team when he was fit under Bignot either.

Fair enough he wasn’t given a chance but there’s a serious threat of relegation and It doesn’t seem to be the right time to give him a chance now!

Harsh but I would be surprised to see him in LG 2 again.

As regards to not seeing him in LG2 again, there are plenty of Slade's signings that shouldn't be playing in LG2.

I get the impression with most of the players leaving, that it is as much about budget as playing ability. Fair enough, the squad was/still is too big, but to my mind, on the outside looking in, the players released are the better ones we had. I also think letting Jones go was wrong. Again, we got a fee, so finance will be a factor, but couldn't we have kept him until the end of the season at least?

Now there may be other factors involved that we don't know about- fitness, attitude, fitting in with the group, whatever, but it's easier to ship out players others want, then justify it some way, than it is to offload the makeweights. Some had to go for sure, but the ones we should have got rid of, no-one else wanted.

I have been, and remain baffled by, our transfer dealings. The only thing that makes sense, is too big a squad with falling gates meant the budget had to be trimmed somehow, and selling off the family silver was the solution. I've no doubt that the players released/sold/transferred would make our side better. I remain to be convinced that we are a better side than we were when Slade took over, or better than we were before the window opened.

Quoted from ginnywings

I get the impression with most of the players leaving, that it is as much about budget as playing ability. Fair enough, the squad was/still is too big, but to my mind, on the outside looking in, the players released are the better ones we had. I also think letting Jones go was wrong. Again, we got a fee, so finance will be a factor, but couldn't we have kept him until the end of the season at least?

Now there may be other factors involved that we don't know about- fitness, attitude, fitting in with the group, whatever, but it's easier to ship out players others want, then justify it some way, than it is to offload the makeweights. Some had to go for sure, but the ones we should have got rid of, no-one else wanted.

I have been, and remain baffled by, our transfer dealings. The only thing that makes sense, is too big a squad with falling gates meant the budget had to be trimmed somehow, and selling off the family silver was the solution. I've no doubt that the players released/sold/transferred would make our side better. I remain to be convinced that we are a better side than we were when Slade took over, or better than we were before the window opened.

I haven't checked but is our squad not bigger with the 7 loanees.

One of which I understand is not likely to play again because Slade screwed up.

Quoted from ginnywings

I also think letting Jones go was wrong. Again, we got a fee, so finance will be a factor, but couldn't we have kept him until the end of the season at least?

I'll probally be in the minority here, but I'm glad he's gone. I'm just going by the home games, but since that penalty miss against Crawley, he's been practically useless, never been the same player again. Makes you wonder if he was tapped up, or his agent gave him knowledge making him lose interest.  No doubt he's got ability, wouldn't be surprised if he pushes on and moves up another tier.

Who isn't likely to play again?

Quoted from arryarryarry

I haven't checked but is our squad not bigger with the 7 loanees.

One of which I understand is not likely to play again because Slade screwed up.

I've no idea to be honest. Players are coming into and out of the squad at an alarming rate, and i don't know who is footing the bill for the loanees, they may well be subsidised.

What i do know is that when you have a team that chop and change constantly, as we are doing, it's usually a sign of a club in trouble. Most promoted sides, just continue on with building for the next level by adding a few better players and slowly phasing out the less able ones. We get back in the league, have 3 managers and a caretaker in less than two seasons, and more players than we can count coming and going. We can't do anything normally. We seem to be in a constant state of building for something in the future. A future point that never arrives.