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If you check his stats, you will find they bear this out. His win percentage correlates with his time spent at each club, with the best one being at Orient, the club he spent the most time at. 242 games- 42% win rate. His 2 most recent jobs before us were Charlton-21 games- 23% win rate and Coventry- 16 games 18% win rate. His career win rate is around 37%, which is not too shabby.
Does this bear out with an improvement from season 1 to season 2 etc or is it a case of a good start keeps him in a job longer?
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Sladeball is still in a job because Fenty trusts him, Fenty has not lost trust in Sladeball just yet but he has lost trust in the trust!
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His squad is unbalanced, it isn't good enough hence the players he signed sitting in the stands on full pay as he's had to bring in seven loan players. All the signs of a badly struggling side. He is to blame for that. And as for Slade being a 'builder', good luck with that.
The defence, Collins 37, Davis, 36, Clarke 33, Dixon 32, Osbourne 31.
His permanent signings:
Dixon has improved slightly but is probably the worst left back I've ever seen at Town. Osbourne is injury prone, looks okay, a little bit heavy and started on Summerfield, ending with a red. Rose is so inconsistent it is ridiculous. Scored 5 goals I think, top scorer? Up and down in same game. Matt is on loan for the season, absolute carthorse IMO with little ability, poor technique. Hooper is miles away from being good enough for the FL. Cardwell was signed, he's hardly played at all. Kelly, looked lightweight from what little I've seen. Rarely on the pitch. Woolford is 32, looks it as well. Slow and looks like a man with his flip flops on.
Siriki Dembele is the only signing he has made who looks like a good player. Even he is barely recongnisable from the player of even 6 weeks ago. One more thing Russ, he plays on the RIGHT, that Wilks was a real danger on Saturday on the left, you switched him to the right and put Dembele on the left, WHY? That was the end of our attacking threat.
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His squad is unbalanced, it isn't good enough hence the players he signed sitting in the stands on full pay as he's had to bring in seven loan players. All the signs of a badly struggling side. He is to blame for that. And as for Slade being a 'builder', good luck with that.
The defence, Collins 37, Davis, 36, Clarke 33, Dixon 32, Osbourne 31.
His permanent signings:
Dixon has improved slightly but is probably the worst left back I've ever seen at Town. Osbourne is injury prone, looks okay, a little bit heavy and started on Summerfield, ending with a red. Rose is so inconsistent it is ridiculous. Scored 5 goals I think, top scorer? Up and down in same game. Matt is on loan for the season, absolute carthorse IMO with little ability, poor technique. Hooper is miles away from being good enough for the FL. Cardwell was signed, he's hardly played at all. Kelly, looked lightweight from what little I've seen. Rarely on the pitch. Woolford is 32, looks it as well. Slow and looks like a man with his flip flops on.
Siriki Dembele is the only signing he has made who looks like a good player. Even he is barely recongnisable from the player of even 6 weeks ago. One more thing Russ, he plays on the RIGHT, that Wilks was a real danger on Saturday on the left, you switched him to the right and put Dembele on the left, WHY? That was the end of our attacking threat.
Osborne won't be happy if he reads this. Spelt his name wrong and you made him two years older than he actually is!
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Osborne won't be happy if he reads this. Spelt his name wrong and you made him two years older than he actually is!
Ha, I haven't seen enough of him and he's blocked me on Twitter which was decent of him so I couldn't ask.
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Does this bear out with an improvement from season 1 to season 2 etc or is it a case of a good start keeps him in a job longer?
Don't know on that score, except for his last stint here. First season we finished 18th. Second season, we made the play off final, having been in the automatic spots for ages until the crucial last day. I think he did similar at Orient and they pushed on in his second season to the play off final. Lost both of them but we all know anything can happen on the day in those. Putting his playing style to one side, the only question now is whether he still has that ability in him. Time will tell on that.
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I personally think that the board (Fenty) doesn't want to admit they (he) made another poor choice.
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Slade is on record as saying that he is a builder, not a quick fix man. If you check his stats, you will find they bear this out. His win percentage correlates with his time spent at each club, with the best one being at Orient, the club he spent the most time at. 242 games- 42% win rate. His 2 most recent jobs before us were Charlton-21 games- 23% win rate and Coventry- 16 games 18% win rate. His career win rate is around 37%, which is not too shabby. These are the things i would be looking at were i the one checking his background, coupled with asking around in the game and trying to ascertain whether recent poor performance was anything more than simply not having enough time to affect change, or indeed there was something else to suggest he was no longer capable of achieving those stats. The counter argument is that he has had quite enough time here to affect change, but has failed to do so in a positive way. I personally find his recruitment baffling, to put it politely, and to me the squad looks unbalanced and lacking in leadership and winners.
That's hardly a great surprise is it, given that managers generally get sacked when they don't win much? I think recruitment is his biggest problem. He clearly can at least stay in a job when he has a good squad, but he didn't get one when he came here and he didn't know the market well enough and/or have the persuasive powers to make the most of his budget. He's getting a bit long in the tooth, most of the players he has brought in are also quite old, probably ones he tracked earlier in his career. If I was looking for a new manager one of the key things for me is their knowledge of players, preferably up and coming ones, who we might reasonably recruit.
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That's hardly a great surprise is it, given that managers generally get sacked when they don't win much? I think recruitment is his biggest problem. He clearly can at least stay in a job when he has a good squad, but he didn't get one when he came here and he didn't know the market well enough and/or have the persuasive powers to make the most of his budget. He's getting a bit long in the tooth, most of the players he has brought in are also quite old, probably ones he tracked earlier in his career. If I was looking for a new manager one of the key things for me is their knowledge of players, preferably up and coming ones, who we might reasonably recruit.
I think that's hit the nail on the head. Since he was last here, he's always managed at a higher level iirc. Now the players he knows are from a higher level and wouldn't come here unless they didn't have options, those players are unlikely to have been playing well recently. Looking at his entire career, he has 1.38 points per game which would put us on about 63 for the season. I don't think failing to catch a falling Charlton or doomed Coventry are enough evidence to suggest he's lost it as a manager. I think if he's here next season, we could do well now that he's had time to scout the appropriate levels. However this season is what counts and we need to turn the corner quickly.
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