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Just took this from twitter:
“Great turnout at the wellington arms tonight the birth place of GTFC. Alot are concerned how our great club is run. Many people had valid points of view and it has been decided a protest shall commence from mcdonalds car park at 2.30pm. If you are unhappy with the current leadership at the club or stopped attending we need your support. We also need to go in the ground and support the players but in the 14th minute everyone stand and sing "stand up if you've had enough" etc etc. “
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1 minute for every striker we have signed on?
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Why the 14th minute?
14 years of Mr Fentys ownership.
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A minute for every home goal? Have we reached 14 at home yet?
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Apt it was at the Wellington. Glad it's still open. Can't be many pubs that old still left running in the town.
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It was a good turnout for something that was kept on the low, some very good people turned up some of whom been involved in the club and brilliants words spoken. This Saturday a meet in mcdonald's car park from 2pm onwards and march round to the Findus car park and go from there. The plan is to grow it and not just have this as a one off, its week in week out home and away, it might not be some peoples cuppa tea on here but for the sake of the club we need to stand together and get it back!
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Understand the protest but what is the aim? Fenty out? Agree totally, but how, who will run the club?
I don't mean 'the fans' but which ones?
Protesting is fine but you need a plan if you are to effect change
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Understand the protest but what is the aim? Fenty out? Agree totally, but how, who will run the club?
I don't mean 'the fans' but which ones?
Protesting is fine but you need a plan if you are to effect change
I personally don’t believe they are telling the full story. They had an offer from the Americans but they chose to reject it on ‘the fans behalf’ as they wanted to give us a voice.
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I personally don’t believe they are telling the full story. They had an offer from the Americans but they chose to reject it on ‘the fans behalf’ as they wanted to give us a voice.
So you want a group of unknown Americans ( who may or may not actually exist) to run our club? Why are they interested, what return on their 'investment' are they looking for?
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I think the main objective should be a protest but it should be firstly aimed at slade and letting the board know we want him out now.
Then look at the bigger picture .
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I think the main objective should be a protest but it should be firstly aimed at slade and letting the board know we want him out now.
Then look at the bigger picture .
Maybe this demonstrates the problem. People wont know what they are protesting about? Slade? Fenty? Pies?
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How about protest before and after the match, but not during the 90 mins.
How about on the 14th minute everyone stands and sings 'Grimsby till I die'
Protesting during the match is going to achieve nothing, and will only distract the players if anything...
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What is the aim of the protest? Fenty out and sack the board? They already said they want that and they also suggested that the money invested in the club wouldn't be a barrier to somebody else taking control.
I understand there's a huge amount of discontent with the way things are right now, but this negativity isn't going to help anything. The board aren't going to just quit without an alternative in place, and there is no alternative right now. I think time would be better spent trying to find this alternative rather than protesting about something that all parties seem to be aligned on.
Maybe try talking to local business men and your bosses to try and build a consortium of wealthy individuals willing to take over back the club financially if needed. There certainly doesn't seem to be a white knight willing to come and take over single handedly.
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If they really want out then surely the most logical thing to do is announce it via media that the club is up for sale......this will then make it clear to your every day businessman etc.
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So you want a group of unknown Americans ( who may or may not actually exist) to run our club?
Why are they interested, what return on their 'investment' are they looking for?
So basically unless you’re a local business man or someone with connections to the town then you would be against a takeover. If you are then be prepared for non league football. Why do other owners in the football league invest in clubs? We don’t have a voice now so how would it make a difference if some Americans took over or another business ? Are we stuck with John Fenty till Peaks Parkway which could potentially lead us into more debt and a higher likely hold off him not leaving.
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What is the aim of the protest? Fenty out and sack the board? They already said they want that and they also suggested that the money invested in the club wouldn't be a barrier to somebody else taking control.
I understand there's a huge amount of discontent with the way things are right now, but this negativity isn't going to help anything. The board aren't going to just quit without an alternative in place, and there is no alternative right now. I think time would be better spent trying to find this alternative rather than protesting about something that all parties seem to be aligned on.
Maybe try talking to local business men and your bosses to try and build a consortium of wealthy individuals willing to take over back the club financially if needed. There certainly doesn't seem to be a white knight willing to come and take over single handedly.
"The money invested wouldn't be a barrier" needs more transparency and a clear definition of exactly what the statement means.. Written off? The book price shouldn't put off a serious investor? Instalments? Compromise amount? It's very vague and at the minute the fact that the club is up for sale has been given the marketing impact of a whimper beyond NE Lincs.. A crude example of a possible scenario.. Let's say JF would like the £2m back in instalments of £100k a year, that's the loss of a star striker for 20 seasons. Not only have the fans being punished with non league for six years and the club have lost out in £3m in income in that time, the same fans could be punished for another 20 years due to JF's past decisions in the boardroom.Now I wouldn't like that hanging over the club's head for another 20 years and I'm sure JF wouldn't want that frustration too if he returned to the terraces as a fan. I'm pretty sure he won't hold the club or potential investor to ransom at this stage either. So, for the sake of transparency and goodwill, would it be better to suggest a ballpark asking price and structure? Maybe then JF could get a few brownie points if it shows he's being benevolent for the sake of the club's future..
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What is the aim of the protest? Fenty out and sack the board? They already said they want that and they also suggested that the money invested in the club wouldn't be a barrier to somebody else taking control.
I understand there's a huge amount of discontent with the way things are right now, but this negativity isn't going to help anything. The board aren't going to just quit without an alternative in place, and there is no alternative right now. I think time would be better spent trying to find this alternative rather than protesting about something that all parties seem to be aligned on.
Maybe try talking to local business men and your bosses to try and build a consortium of wealthy individuals willing to take over back the club financially if needed. There certainly doesn't seem to be a white knight willing to come and take over single handedly.
Totally agree with this..
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No way of controlling this if there is a large turnout. Policing has been virtually non existent this season and McDonalds will now be requesting a presence. Very easy for the board to spin this their way. Would suggest a symbolic march from outside the Imp to Pontoon turnstiles handing out details of other meetings and forms of protest. Peaceful, targeted actions more likely to gather momentum and positive press and community support. With all these new ,younger and local lads getting nearer the team we should leave all other protests till after the game. Cheltenham will have seen the Yeovil debacle and have a plan to turn the ref against our players. At 3.00 pm. THEY are the enemy.
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What is the aim of the protest? Fenty out and sack the board? They already said they want that and they also suggested that the money invested in the club wouldn't be a barrier to somebody else taking control.
I understand there's a huge amount of discontent with the way things are right now, but this negativity isn't going to help anything. The board aren't going to just quit without an alternative in place, and there is no alternative right now. I think time would be better spent trying to find this alternative rather than protesting about something that all parties seem to be aligned on.
Maybe try talking to local business men and your bosses to try and build a consortium of wealthy individuals willing to take over back the club financially if needed. There certainly doesn't seem to be a white knight willing to come and take over single handedly.
Why does it have to one or the other can't they protest and finding an alternative. The time is not really wasted as instead of protesting they would be in a pub getting ready for a match or inside the ground getting ready for kick off.
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So basically unless you’re a local business man or someone with connections to the town then you would be against a takeover. If you are then be prepared for non league football.
Why do other owners in the football league invest in clubs? We don’t have a voice now so how would it make a difference if some Americans took over or another business ? Are we stuck with John Fenty till Peaks Parkway which could potentially lead us into more debt and a higher likely hold off him not leaving.
Having to choose between the current regime and a bunch of venture capitalists would be akin to to choosing whether I want my my left or right testicle crushed in a vice. Agree it doesn't need to be someone local though.
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Good luck with a demo in the Findus car park. I get there about 2.40 and have to negotiate my way through all the expensive parked cars. Careful you don't scratch any of them. In the good old days when there was a protest, there weren't so many big expensive cars about and the car park was the venue of choice. Difference then though was there was usually someone else to step into the breach. Bill Carr was forced out in a disgraceful manner in my opinion, but hey ho!
As for the demo itself, i can't see what it will achieve. I'm not against demo's, I've been on a few myself away from football, but you need a clear objective. The board know we are not happy and have had two meetings on the matter. They have backed the management and only continued poor results will change that. They have said they are willing to step aside if someone can come up with a credible plan.
I can see this scenario, with fans chanting:-
"We want Fenty out, say we want Fenty out" John appears and says "ok then, I'll go now, who's taking over?"
I'm all for regime change and it's clear that JF is too, so we need to find out if there is the will out there to effect it in some way. As a fan i am willing to chuck some money into the pot. I also have some spare time i am willing to spend helping out in any way i can, but unless they need some doors hanging, or some other kind of joinery work, i don't have the requisite financial or business skills needed. Until and unless someone or some group comes along with a plan of action, just getting rid of everybody and worrying about the consequences later is not a plan i would back.
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The board haven't had any vocal pressure inside the ground, they've had it a little light. While the disatisfaction is aimed at them it will hopefully be deflected from the players. The players are the ones who can keep us up now and the problems at the club aren't their fault.
Drop the debt and go.
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Who will take over? All well and good ousting the board but there's no-one?
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The board haven't had any vocal pressure inside the ground, they've had it a little light. While the disatisfaction is aimed at them it will hopefully be deflected from the players. The players are the ones who can keep us up now and the problems at the club aren't their fault.
Drop the debt and go.
Too simple I`m afraid, or no chance is more likely,. any other wise ideas?
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What do we want? Slade out! When do we want it? Now!
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Protest after the game FFS. We need to get right behind the players right now
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People are to scared of change, if Fenty goes then what? I believe the club will pull together more, theres enough wise heads who follow town who speak highly and have pretty good business and footballing knowledge and maybe just maybe there is someone pondering for this move to happen. We must move forward for the future of GTFC.
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Wimbledon started again from scratch in 2002. They have made up 9 divisions on us since and are getting a new ground built. Just read that on Codalmighty and thought what a great time they must have had doing it.
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Wimbledon started again from scratch in 2002. They have made up 9 divisions on us since and are getting a new ground built. Just read that on Codalmighty and thought what a great time they must have had doing it.
You going to protest then Ginny? Learning tonight that Jon Wood didn't get chance to state his case before the decision was made at the board meeting has certainly sharpened my thought process.
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You going to protest then Ginny?
Learning tonight that Jon Wood didn't get chance to state his case before the decision was made at the board meeting has certainly sharpened my thought process.
I'm by heart a moderate, but this week has really gone to new levels for me. When i see Slades smug face. When i see that massively imbalanced squad of players who have no vested interest in us long term. When i see loanees coming in and pushing contracted player out. When i see the clubs best player sold to the Shrews despite our predicament and think back to Amond being allowed to leave for Hartlepool. Osbourne being let go, Clements too and Asante training with the youth team, not to mention all the other myriad fook ups that just keep coming and coming. Stevenage, the treatment of Kristine, the fiasco of the fans forum and the treatment of Matt Dean. The Chuckaway Trophy. Then i think that all of this is just the recent stuff and i think those four fookers ( excluding Jon Wood, literally) are responsible for all that, i think it's time to stop being a moderate and it's time we have to do something. I will be around at that time anyway, so i think i will be joining in. Starting again from scratch like Wimbledon would be far more enjoyable than what we have now. We the fans are the club. It doesn't exist without us.
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I thought the protests would have had more support here on the Fishy.
It’s pretty clear what the aim of the protests is: Regime change.
It’s not the role of the protestors to have an alternative ready to put into place. It’s the job of the protestors to keep sustained pressure on the culprits to instigate the necessary change and allow the circumstances to arise for change to take place.
It’s one thing writing on here what everyone believes needs to be done. But the time is right to get off our arses and physically and verbally demonstrate our anger towards the current regime.
All Town fans seem united in their dislike of the current situation. The momentum has been growing for long enough on social media. Now it’s time for the next stage. Protests!! UTMM!!
PS and if that includes in the ground so be it. Whatever it takes for the voices of the fans to be heard. Its time some folk grew some balls and stopped being so bloody apathetic. Its time to fight for what we beleive in, for what we love!!!
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I thought the protests would have had more support here on the Fishy.
It’s pretty clear what the aim of the protests is: Regime change.
It’s not the role of the protestors to have an alternative ready to put into place. It’s the job of the protestors to keep sustained pressure on the culprits to instigate the necessary change and allow the circumstances to arise for change to take place.
It’s one thing writing on here what everyone believes needs to be done. But the time is right to get off our arses and physically and verbally demonstrate our anger towards the current regime.
All Town fans seem united in their dislike of the current situation. The momentum has been growing for long enough on social media. Now it’s time for the next stage. Protests!! UTMM!!
PS and if that includes in the ground so be it. Whatever it takes for the voices of the fans to be heard. Its time some folk grew some balls and stopped being so bloody apathetic. Its time to fight for what we beleive in, for what we love!!!
I hope to God we've got more of a clue as to what to do next than the Yanks did in Iraq.
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I thought the protests would have had more support here on the Fishy.
It’s pretty clear what the aim of the protests is: Regime change.
It’s not the role of the protestors to have an alternative ready to put into place. It’s the job of the protestors to keep sustained pressure on the culprits to instigate the necessary change and allow the circumstances to arise for change to take place.
It’s one thing writing on here what everyone believes needs to be done. But the time is right to get off our arses and physically and verbally demonstrate our anger towards the current regime.
All Town fans seem united in their dislike of the current situation. The momentum has been growing for long enough on social media. Now it’s time for the next stage. Protests!! UTMM!!
PS and if that includes in the ground so be it. Whatever it takes for the voices of the fans to be heard. Its time some folk grew some balls and stopped being so bloody apathetic. Its time to fight for what we beleive in, for what we love!!!
I hope to God we've got more of a clue as to what to do next than the Yanks did in Iraq.
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I hope to God we've got more of a clue as to what to do next than the Yanks did in Iraq.
The planning can start when we get our club back.
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From the clubs statement of potential investors how much is it going to cost? you want to attract businessmen put up a figure people can look at, it's too vague for any businessman to sniff at, and that is intentional, the board want to keep it as it is, more than likely want more than the club is worth and that's down to the benign debt, would you buy an expensive car knowing the previous owner had a car loan logbook on it.
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Having to choose between the current regime and a bunch of venture capitalists would be akin to to choosing whether I want my my left or right testicle crushed in a vice. Agree it doesn't need to be someone local though.
What? to crush your testicle. Whatever takes your fancy.
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The demo will be seen from the Ivory tower as Fenty is holding his arms out wide in the boardroom, saying why don't the fans love me, if it wasn't for yours truly, Marley interrupts Fentys speech with 'Shut up' sorry John there is no bog roll in the toilet as some twit has rolled it into one of the shitters and it wasn't me, you better believe me or you are calling me a liar, you calling me a liar John. Day walks in and John says where have you been, Day says I've been for a drink with Matt Dean, remember I said I'd catch you later after I've had a pint or two with Matt. John says I don't remember that and ruffles his turtle neck sweater as he looks at the great unwashed voicing their discontent.
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I'm by heart a moderate, but this week has really gone to new levels for me. When i see Slades smug face. When i see that massively imbalanced squad of players who have no vested interest in us long term. When i see loanees coming in and pushing contracted player out. When i see the clubs best player sold to the Shrews despite our predicament and think back to Amond being allowed to leave for Hartlepool. Osbourne being let go, Clements too and Asante training with the youth team, not to mention all the other myriad fook ups that just keep coming and coming. Stevenage, the treatment of Kristine, the fiasco of the fans forum and the treatment of Matt Dean. The Chuckaway Trophy. Then i think that all of this is just the recent stuff and i think those four fookers ( excluding Jon Wood, literally) are responsible for all that, i think it's time to stop being a moderate and it's time we have to do something. I will be around at that time anyway, so i think i will be joining in.
Starting again from scratch like Wimbledon would be far more enjoyable than what we have now. We the fans are the club. It doesn't exist without us.
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I am fully with those protesting tomorrow in terms of why they are doing it and it is pleasing to know people care enough about Town that they’re willing to alter their normal match day plans for it. That said I don’t see what a march from McDonald’s to BP - which is all of 150 yards - at 1430 on a matchday is going to do. This sort of protest needs to inconvenience people to have any real impact. A longer march - maybe from the Town hall or even Abbey Park area would be better for that or a sit in protest in the car park after the game as it would stop people leaving? I do think though that a vocal protest within the ground (preferably the upper) should happen - maybe not tomorrow but in the near future.
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The planning can start when we get our club back.
That worked well in Iraq didn't it. By the way, we're the Iraqi people in this. The American venture capitalists are Al Qaeda, the Kazakh oligarch is ISIS. I haven't worked out who's Donald Rumsfeld and Tony Blair yet.
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I see another fan owned club is in big trouble , Chester need 50k. Can we raise that if we get in that trouble. Careful what you wish for
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I see another fan owned club is in big trouble , Chester need 50k. Can we raise that if we get in that trouble. Careful what you wish for
Have you forgotten the Summer of 2015 already? Twice that and we weren't even in trouble.
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What a waste of time some fans won't be happy until we are in the conference north with a three stand blundell park.
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It makes me feel like not going . It will create a toxic atmosphere and that is the last thing the players need. Protests never change anything normally, just end up getting disruptive and nasty.
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What a waste of time some fans won't be happy until we are in the conference north with a three stand blundell park.
That’s not that far away in reality
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That’s not that far away in reality
What I was thinking. We're heading that way already.
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Think I will leave my 11 year old at home today as a defeat is likely to stir up the hornets nest to quite a level and angry grown men can be very scary to a youngster.
By the time I arrive it will be near kick off time anyway and if it goes pear shaped all you can ask is the fans their anger in as civilised manner as possible. That said the way RS and Wilko are said to be treating Asante a few well chosen barbs in their direction is well justified.
Wonder what we will be reading on the Fishy tonight?
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It makes me feel like not going . It will create a toxic atmosphere and that is the last thing the players need. Protests never change anything normally, just end up getting disruptive and nasty.
I feel the same way. But I will still be there today. I can see this getting out of hand and not at all peaceful.
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Wimbledon started again from scratch in 2002. They have made up 9 divisions on us since and are getting a new ground built. Just read that on Codalmighty and thought what a great time they must have had doing it.
For me the point at which Wimbledon overtook us was the point at which Fenty lost the ability to play the "Iook where you'd be without me" card. That was 2011.
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Just read in the GY telegraph the quotes from some of the people involved in the leading of the march Baz Whittleton a hugely passionate Town fan who travels everywhere watching the Mariners, Kenny Meech the lad taken to court over the shark attack at Barnet ( don't know if he is a regular but I haven't seen him at many games) and Andy Carr the guy who stopped going once he was no longer paid to attend There is huge passion for change but there seems no plan in getting something together to take the place of the current regime. OneLove says that's not the protestors job BUT IMO it has to be someone's job!
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Just read in the GY telegraph the quotes from some of the people involved in the leading of the march Baz Whittleton a hugely passionate Town fan who travels everywhere watching the Mariners, Kenny Meech the lad taken to court over the shark attack at Barnet ( don't know if he is a regular but I haven't seen him at many games) and Andy Carr the guy who stopped going once he was no longer paid to attend There is huge passion for change but there seems no plan in getting something together to take the place of the current regime. OneLove says that's not the protestors job BUT IMO it has to be someone's job!
Kenny meech is at every home game
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Just read in the GY telegraph the quotes from some of the people involved in the leading of the march Baz Whittleton a hugely passionate Town fan who travels everywhere watching the Mariners, Kenny Meech the lad taken to court over the shark attack at Barnet ( don't know if he is a regular but I haven't seen him at many games) and Andy Carr the guy who stopped going once he was no longer paid to attend There is huge passion for change but there seems no plan in getting something together to take the place of the current regime. OneLove says that's not the protestors job BUT IMO it has to be someone's job!
Ken meech is a regular
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Songs for today... 🎶 We want our club back, we want our club back 🎶 🎶 He's killing our club, John Fenty, he's killing our club 🎶 🎶 Fenty Out 🎶
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Just buy all the empty seats around where Fenty sits and keep asking him, would a real fan let the club rot like this.
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Songs for today... 🎶 We want our club back, we want our club back 🎶 🎶 He's killing our club, John Fenty, he's killing our club 🎶 🎶 Fenty Out 🎶
I'd rather the main thrust of any demonstration was aimed at Slade. It's going to take longer to get Fenty out but Slade could be sacked (or resign if he has any decency at all) tomorrow
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I'd rather the main thrust of any demonstration was aimed at Slade. It's going to take longer to get Fenty out but Slade could be sacked (or resign if he has any decency at all) tomorrow
I'd rather there wasn't a demonstration on reflection. The board & the manager are fully aware of the situation and any real fan should realise that we need to back the players, first & foremost. If we lose again, by all means protest after the final whistle. In terms of what next, I think the club needs a Chairman as a focus to take the heat away from the major shareholder. Is there anyone on the board who could take the Chair? Probably not as they are all too closely associated with JF.
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I am no friend of Fenty as most of you know,
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I would not want him driven out of the club and leave us rudderless,
I hope he stays and reports back to us on a regular basis on how he and the board are trying to get more investment in,
Plus treat the fans as a valuable assert until he leaves the club and stop treating us with contempt,
Finally be honest on how long Slades contract is so we know how much it will cost to sack him.
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For me the point at which Wimbledon overtook us was the point at which Fenty lost the ability to play the "Iook where you'd be without me" card. That was 2011.
Which was the same year they left us behind in the Conference. No coincidence.
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I am no friend of Fenty as most of you know,
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I would not want him driven out of the club and leave us rudderless,
I hope he stays and reports back to us on a regular basis on how he and the board are trying to get more investment in,
Plus treat the fans as a valuable assert until he leaves the club and stop treating us with contempt,
Finally be honest on how long Slades contract is so we know how much it will cost to sack him.
With you on that one Pete - keep your enemies close and all that. Like it or not we need Fenty at the helm (more likely telling some other fornicator where to steer but you know what I mean) I can't stand the bloke, I wouldn't urine on him if he was on fire but Grimsby town FC comes first and in the short term he's going nowhere in a hurry and like it or not we need the bloke
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"The money invested wouldn't be a barrier" needs more transparency and a clear definition of exactly what the statement means..
Written off? The book price shouldn't put off a serious investor? Instalments? Compromise amount?
It's very vague and at the minute the fact that the club is up for sale has been given the marketing impact of a whimper beyond NE Lincs..
A crude example of a possible scenario..
Let's say JF would like the £2m back in instalments of £100k a year, that's the loss of a star striker for 20 seasons. Not only have the fans being punished with non league for six years and the club have lost out in £3m in income in that time, the same fans could be punished for another 20 years due to JF's past decisions in the boardroom.
Now I wouldn't like that hanging over the club's head for another 20 years and I'm sure JF wouldn't want that frustration too if he returned to the terraces as a fan. I'm pretty sure he won't hold the club or potential investor to ransom at this stage either. So, for the sake of transparency and goodwill, would it be better to suggest a ballpark asking price and structure? Maybe then JF could get a few brownie points if it shows he's being benevolent for the sake of the club's future..
Now I don't know the ins and outs of the " benign " loan or whether it was one lump sum or several smaller loans. Surely though this money was to keep the club going and without it there was the possibility of the club folding or have I missed something ?
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Now I don't know the ins and outs of the " benign " loan or whether it was one lump sum or several smaller loans. Surely though this money was to keep the club going and without it there was the possibility of the club folding or have I missed something ?
The money that has been loaned to the club by Fenty has been used to plug the gap which has been caused by his complete mismanagement of the club. It has been caused by a succession of poor managerial appointments that needed paying off as well as a number of player contracts being paid off, alongside a significant drop in income for the club when dropping from League One to League Two, and then into the Conference, followed by six years in the abyss. It's akin to me taking over a business, making deadful decisions which cost the company millions of pounds, loaning the company the money to cover this, and then expecting the next person who takes the company on to foot the bill that has been caused by my mismanagement. There's no way in a million years that if Fenty was sat on the outside and wanting to take the club on he would be willing to pay those loans off when he took the club on - which is why nobody else seems to be forthcoming in wanting to take it on, they shouldn't have to, in effect, pay off the mismanagement of another individual. If I had the money would I be happy to do that? Absolutely not. I was not involved in any of the decisions that have cost the club this money so why should I be expected to foot the bill? Ultimately, it's the main driver behind pushing so hard for PP. He knows that nobody will be willing to pay those loans off so is hanging everything on PP being granted. Additional revenue generated by a new stadium will be used to pay those loans off, and ultimately this additional revenue will go towards debt rather than helping the team out / playing budget.
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How about protest before and after the match, but not during the 90 mins.
How about on the 14th minute everyone stands and sings 'Grimsby till I die'
Protesting during the match is going to achieve nothing, and will only distract the players if anything...
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In the board statement it said “the existing directors loans and shareholding would not be a barrier to any interested parities subject to the usual due diligence taking place”.
So where they saying they don’t want their money back or at least just yet?
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Silly question, BUT What happens if we score our 3rd goal on the 14th minute ? Like I said silly question
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In the board statement it said “the existing directors loans and shareholding would not be a barrier to any interested parities subject to the usual due diligence taking place”.
So where they saying they don’t want their money back or at least just yet?
I think that it what other people are asking - it’s quite ambiguous, they really need to clarify what that means.
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Just seen the protest and possibly as many as a couple of hundred very vocal fans chanting in unison 😂
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Just seen the protest and possibly as many as a couple of hundred very vocal fans chanting in unison 😂
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The majority have spoken 😂
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Listening to John Tondeur on the Radio - "and the fans are protesting on the 14th minute, supposedly against the 14 years of Fenty's stewardship and they've lifted a banner, but sadly the banner is upside down and it rather loses the effect......"
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Must say i was a little fearful of what the atmosphere would be like today with the protest and general feelings around the support but i think the fans did a good job today....the early goal may well have helped but there was vocal support for the team and a deal of patience shown throughout given the performance and entertainment on offer.
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In the board statement it said “the existing directors loans and shareholding would not be a barrier to any interested parities subject to the usual due diligence taking place”.
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