Mariners Trust statement

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I know and it is not having a dig, and I admire them for having the gumption to try something new. However, John Fenty does not listen to people who have as much clout as himself, so there is no way on this earth he will be influenced by a well meaning trust.

I would advocate a different approach. Leave him to it, and get support from elsewhere and when we get a new start be part of it from the off, with people who have a different approach to Fenty.

On the outside, they would have far more leverage by having freedoms to speak out saying exactly what they feel. Being represented on a board sounds great, but not in this particular case.

The other way of looking at it is the Trust is the only party that will 'speak truth to power'. If a new party plans to takeover, not being on the board means not having a voice in the discussions. Always best to keep a foot in the door even if it doesn't look like it's achieving much currently.

One day through circumstances we cannot currently predict the make up of the board might change. Maybe one director at a time. But it will happen.

Always have appreciated the trust and what they do. Thank you Baxenden and everyone else, maybe the trust need to organise a get together of members and see what everyone feels is best. Personally have to agree with some comments here, clearly can't work alongside this current board.

Another way of looking at it is, not being on the board is a bit like being Norway in respect of the EU. Still have to abide by the decisions of the EU, still have to contribute disproportionately to the budget, still have to accept free movement, still have to accept EU regs on just about everything, but without a say in the rules. Not even at the discussion table.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

The other way of looking at it is the Trust is the only party that will 'speak truth to power'. If a new party plans to takeover, not being on the board means not having a voice in the discussions. Always best to keep a foot in the door even if it doesn't look like it's achieving much currently.

One day through circumstances we cannot currently predict the make up of the board might change. Maybe one director at a time. But it will happen.

If and when it happens, hopefully very soon,  then all of the board will be gone because JSF holds the ace card. The rest are just there to make up a board. You may as well have some of the Muppets on the board for all the use they are. It was good to have the Trust on board when things were going relatively well a year or so ago. But now everything about the GTFC board has become poisonous and the sooner the Trust distance themselves the better. They are far better looking for new owners and negotiating with them for a better future for the Club and the fans.

Can I just ask as I am not really clued up on all this stuff. Did the Trust not gift Mr. Fenty a whole lot of shares that were given to them by the Carphone guy? Would it have made them more powerful if those shares had be kept. I could be completely wrong on this, like I said I am not into all this power and shares malarkey.

Quoted from RexFannies

Can I just ask as I am not really clued up on all this stuff. Did the Trust not gift Mr. Fenty a whole lot of shares that were given to them by the Carphone guy? Would it have made them more powerful if those shares had be kept. I could be completely wrong on this, like I said I am not into all this power and shares malarkey.

I might be wrong bit didn't he come from Youngs?

Quoted from arryarryarry

I might be wrong bit didn't he come from Youngs?

Maybe...was it Mike Parker. I kept thinking Mike Ashley then I realised it wasn't him lol

Quoted from RexFannies

Maybe...was it Mike Parker. I kept thinking Mike Ashley then I realised it wasn't him lol

Mike Ashley is Sports Direct. David Ross is Carphone Warehouse. Mike Parker was Youngs Seafood.

Quoted from ginnywings

Mike Ashley is Sports Direct. David Ross is Carphone Warehouse. Mike Parker was Youngs Seafood.

I know that now...thank you. I knew it wasn't Ashley. It was Parker I think who gave the shares away.

Quoted from Cambs Mariner

If and when it happens, hopefully very soon,  then all of the board will be gone because JSF holds the ace card. The rest are just there to make up a board. You may as well have some of the Muppets on the board for all the use they are. It was good to have the Trust on board when things were going relatively well a year or so ago. But now everything about the GTFC board has become poisonous and the sooner the Trust distance themselves the better. They are far better looking for new owners and negotiating with them for a better future for the Club and the fans.

It may seem futile at the moment. But it's better we have a seat at the table when the thing finally falls apart. The trust is there representing the supporters. It's there as of right (regardless of any deals done to get it there in practice). It's a bit like voting in elections. A lot of the time it seems pointless. But if we didn't have that right where would we be..

Things might be poisonous, but sometimes you just have to crack on and deal with people and situations you'd rather not deal with. I'm sure Fenty and the others wish that the fans Trust did not have a rep on the club board. It's our club so why should our rep be the one to leave?

Front it out I say.

Bax has shown today that the Trust can still have a voice regardless of the obligations that Jon Wood is under as a member of the club board. The Trust showed that it can still say what it thinks is right, as witnessed by the support it gave for the fans game last year. It can still speak up despite the club being silent (despite Jon himself not being able to speak loudly publicly) over Bragate. The positions are not incompatible.