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I have no complaints whatsoever with the effort of the players. I do have an issue with the lack of 'bravery' in the way the team is set up. It is far too cautious. Not suggesting we go all out attack with 5 up front but against 10 men on Saturday we should not have persisted with a slow full back in the wing back role. It was crying out for DJ,Dembele or even Mallik from half time at the latest!! Slade just doesnt react fast enough to the game situation, not just on Saturday but in general. I honestly think we have the players to comfortably finish in the top half but not convinced we are brave enough to go and win games. The regular comment about staying in the game is cautious rather than hitting the oppo from the opening minute. Staying in the game smacks of negativity and hands the initiative to the opponents. Dont get me started on the size of the squad ( and the fact we played the youth team in a recent reserve game- how do you defend that
Interesting view point. I agree totally about the effort. It's too easy to make comment about lack of effort when looking for a reason for not winning games especially when playing against ten men for an hour. Even more interesting to me is the view about the nature of the manager in setting up for games. Having seen the way Luton played a month ago at their place and the movement (particularly through midfield) I expected the line up we got on Saturday. The obvious thing now though for me would be in a desire to "stop the rot" any views about staying in the game and negative formations even (especially?) at home are going to appear more attractive to a somewhat beleagured management team. We are at that stage in the season where we haven't got the luxury of going all-out attack because given our position the risks attached to getting beat 3-2 at home after an all guns blazing attacking performance are enormous. Any fan who says they'd take an attacking display with an end result of nil points isn't being completely honest with themselves. I'd love us to be more positive but I'm almost resigned to more of the same for the rest of this season.
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Interesting view point. I agree totally about the effort. It's too easy to make comment about lack of effort when looking for a reason for not winning games especially when playing against ten men for an hour. Even more interesting to me is the view about the nature of the manager in setting up for games. Having seen the way Luton played a month ago at their place and the movement (particularly through midfield) I expected the line up we got on Saturday. The obvious thing now though for me would be in a desire to "stop the rot" any views about staying in the game and negative formations even (especially?) at home are going to appear more attractive to a somewhat beleagured management team. We are at that stage in the season where we haven't got the luxury of going all-out attack because given our position the risks attached to getting beat 3-2 at home after an all guns blazing attacking performance are enormous. Any fan who says they'd take an attacking display with an end result of nil points isn't being completely honest with themselves. I'd love us to be more positive but I'm almost resigned to more of the same for the rest of this season.
I'd take a 3-2 loss with all guns blazing, as opposed to a 1-0 loss where we fail to test the keeper against 10 men whilst retaining 3 center backs !!
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Again, no issues with the players effort levels. Agree completely with the above posts, a pathetic 28 goals in 32 games, I'm told 17 games without scoring? We are set up to defend, not to score goals. We aren't very good at defending either. What a mess, but sacking Slade now and bringing in a manager who will use a different approach would be a good start. The squad is shite, but shouldn't be in danger of relegation.
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I'd take a 3-2 loss with all guns blazing, as opposed to a 1-0 loss where we fail to test the keeper against 10 men whilst retaining 3 center backs !!
I totally agree with you there, for that particular game at least. I also agree with Barra, that we are at the stage now where we just need to grind out some results, anyway we can. We now seem to be playing the way Slade did in his first season, when we played more football but didn't win much. Second season he changed tack and went more direct. We don't look to have the players currently to make that more direct style work like he did last time. I just want a win or two on the board now, whatever style or formation achieves it.
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Not taking advantage of 10 men by adding pace and width was why we struggled after Summers' rash tackle and earlier sending off. Dixon was turned inside out twice by their winger.
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I'd take a 3-2 loss with all guns blazing, as opposed to a 1-0 loss where we fail to test the keeper against 10 men whilst retaining 3 center backs !!
To be clear I'm not advocating a continuation I'm just trying to put myself into Slade's pragmatic thoughts. The end result would've been the same. Don't get me wrong I'd "like" to see us really go for it but Saturday night would still have been the same-we'd all have been looking at the bottom of the table rather than the top. We'd still have lost the last four home games and to those fans who weren't there another defeat wouldn't have attracted them back even if this board had been full of never ending praise for the performance. All I'm saying is that to the people who can most influence it going gung ho looks a less attractive proposition
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My thinking is Slade's train of thought will be (despite what he said about playoffs) he needs a few wins to stay safe hence the temporary loans to ensure this because he as no faith in our strikers. Trouble is at the end of the season they will no longer be with us.
So this is a consolidation exercise nothing more, now how Fenty reacts to that will be interesting given he stated we will push on.
Slade obviously realizes this is the third time he could lose his job and so trying to defend his own position perhaps rather than taking risks on the field.
Never seen us have so many strikers in the team one can only assume in the summer IF we do stay up a lot of staff will be going.
Big question is will Slade and Wilco be amongst them because season ticket sales will depend on it imho.
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I knew this season was gonna be shite as soon as slade kept that morrocan trialist on for a few more games.
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He was a lot better than some he gave 2 year contracts
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To be clear I'm not advocating a continuation I'm just trying to put myself into Slade's pragmatic thoughts. The end result would've been the same. Don't get me wrong I'd "like" to see us really go for it but Saturday night would still have been the same-we'd all have been looking at the bottom of the table rather than the top. We'd still have lost the last four home games and to those fans who weren't there another defeat wouldn't have attracted them back even if this board had been full of never ending praise for the performance. All I'm saying is that to the people who can most influence it going gung ho looks a less attractive proposition
But I went back after missing two home games. I went back because he changed it about away at Colchester and we had two players I hadn't seen. Given that there were 3500 or so home fans (as opposed to 3000 last home game) I wasn't alone. I would be going next Saturday if I had been entertained this week. Even if we had lost 3-2. But I'm not. No excitement, nothing to get on your feet about, and less atmosphere than the fcuking moon. I do understand your view Barra and I tend to agree with it. But unfortunately I won't be there to witness such dross.
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