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1mickylyons
January 26, 2018, 12:06pm
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What is footballing fortune and how best to get it?

Cup runs and playing assets seem to be the answer?

Whilst we haven`t done well in the Cups since our return to the league we did manage to sell Bogle for good money.

I understand the Club don`t budget for Cup competitions which is a shrewd move but I would like to see them try and get better results and hit a windfall in the Seasons to come.We have gone out with a whimper on all fronts lets get that stopped.

The playing assets ala Bogle you snap a player up from lower league who comes good and you sell him on for a profit. This is a speculate to accumulate kind of game and we got Osborne and Jones and you would have thought we had a chance to make a profit on them sadly one has fell by the wayside the other currently not at his best but will come good.


You invest heavily in your own youth set up and try and sell one a season. I think the last player we had come through the youth set up to play more than a handful of games was Brad Wood and I don`t think we got a fee for him? We have sold players for decent money before and will do again but can we get a production line of talent going?

You can pick any number of former players out but to keep it simple I will stick with Bogle.Whilst a GY player scored goals won games and increased his value tenfold over 2 Seasons and helped tremendously in gaining us a Promotion. This must be the template for success for a Club at our level Slade keeps getting in these young attacking players which gives me hope he is on to this already BUT why loanees? If we get a loanee and he plays well we get some benefits in points and goals but NO transfer fee.

C`mon Town you want and need footballing fortune noow let`s see you set about grabbing it.UTM
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I think another factor in respect of bringing players through is that any better than average prospects are quickly gobbled up by teams from Prem and Champ sides, seem to recall Reading took a lad from us two or three years back.

As well as scouting those leagues below us I also believe there are other options especially Scottish & Irish leagues to pick up some bargains.
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We used to get lots of players from Scottish clubs,to them Grimsby is like St Tropez.


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We used to get lots of players from Scottish clubs,to them Grimsby is like St Tropez.


Matt Tees , Bobby Cumming, George Mclean  to name just a few of my favourite players.


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What happened to the Scottish footballing talent conveyor belt? Seems to have died a death with heavy industry in Scotland. Don't know if that's just a coincidence. Or whether they've suffered by comparison to talent from other countries which has become much more freely available than in times gone by.


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Quoted from friskneymariner
We used to get lots of players from Scottish clubs,to them Grimsby is like St Tropez.


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Scottish talent is still plentiful in the non league game. There's also some genuine goalscoring talent going down the pro leagues, it's just that clubs don't want to take a punt on anyone who is untried higher up the league. At the Junior grade that I watch there are some wonderful players, some of whom could quite easily ply their trade in the non Premier divisions, but if they are at a decent paying club - and there aren't that many about to be fair - and have a decent job why would they want to give both those up to play for a mediocre league team?

It's exactly the same with our manager at Auchinleck Talbot, since he came to us in 2013 he's won 5 Super League titles and 5 Junior Cups, both the highest trophies that can be won at our game. Some league clubs have eyed him, but decent job at Talbot plus his own job - which I assume may also be pensionable - makes it a no brainer to stay where he is.


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What happened to the Scottish footballing talent conveyor belt? Seems to have died a death with heavy industry in Scotland. Don't know if that's just a coincidence. Or whether they've suffered by comparison to talent from other countries which has become much more freely available than in times gone by.


Paul Dixon anyone?
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Scottish talent is still plentiful in the non league game. There's also some genuine goalscoring talent going down the pro leagues, it's just that clubs don't want to take a punt on anyone who is untried higher up the league. At the Junior grade that I watch there are some wonderful players, some of whom could quite easily ply their trade in the non Premier divisions, but if they are at a decent paying club - and there aren't that many about to be fair - and have a decent job why would they want to give both those up to play for a mediocre league team?

It's exactly the same with our manager at Auchinleck Talbot, since he came to us in 2013 he's won 5 Super League titles and 5 Junior Cups, both the highest trophies that can be won at our game. Some league clubs have eyed him, but decent job at Talbot plus his own job - which I assume may also be pensionable - makes it a no brainer to stay where he is.


Bearing in mind that Alan Power, who was a mediocre National League player at best for Lincoln, is currently starting most games for mid-table Kilmarnock, I'd say it's probably not worth our while to look at any division below the Scottish Premier. If they're not good enough to play in the Premier in Scotland then they're a long way short of the required standard for us.


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And Craig Clay. not an ever present meme of the team went straight to the Scottish premier.


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