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January 16, 2018, 9:29am

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On that basis they need to back their man in this transfer window with proper cash for signings and clear the decks of deadwood from the playing staff.


Personally, I believe that the reason that RS has clearly got the backing of the board(ie JF) is precisely the opposite.

Most managers in this position would be pleading with the board for a chance to strengthen in this window.
As I've mentioned before, at the fans forum, talk of the Jan window was pretty much brushed aside by BOTH JF and RS and I did post at the time I didn't expect to see much happening.  Slade still doesn't seem to be overly bothered about getting anyone in (unless they are cheap), has pretty much indicated that this season is over (something for which Bignot was rightly vilified) and is looking to build during the summer.
From a financial view to 'the board' it's music to their(ie his) ears. Unless we are in absolute dire circumstances in the league (and I still don't think that will happen), nothing will be spent and RS will still be here.  I think that as long as he is prepared to stay cheap, RS's job is safe and he knows it.



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Personally, I believe that the reason that RS has clearly got the backing of the board(ie JF) is precisely the opposite.

Most managers in this position would be pleading with the board for a chance to strengthen in this window.
As I've mentioned before, at the fans forum, talk of the Jan window was pretty much brushed aside by BOTH JF and RS and I did post at the time I didn't expect to see much happening.  Slade still doesn't seem to be overly bothered about getting anyone in (unless they are cheap), has pretty much indicated that this season is over (something for which Bignot was rightly vilified) and is looking to build during the summer.
From a financial view to 'the board' it's music to their(ie his) ears. Unless we are in absolute dire circumstances in the league (and I still don't think that will happen), nothing will be spent and RS will still be here.  I think that as long as he is prepared to stay cheap, RS's job is safe and he knows it.

I think exactly the same Civvy but the board said on last weeks statement they would back Slade and on that basis he needs 2-3 quality players in.This team does not function he has an absolutely massive pool of players to pick an eleven from but like the fans he doesn't rate them either.



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January 16, 2018, 9:58am

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My biggest fear is that the club is sleepwalking into trouble. There was mention of mid table in their statement and also of building in the summer. I'd like to remind the club that we have to still be in this league in the summer for that to happen and if we carry on with this form, that will become less and less certain. You could argue we have time to sort it out, but on the flip side, the teams below have plenty of time to catch us. They have already made up 2 of those points and some have a game in hand.

It is reminding me of the England set up, who keep telling us that we have great players coming through for he future, almost absolving them of any expectation at a tournament, and then they lose to Iceland. There always seems to be this mythical golden future, which remains just that.

The club need to act now, not in the summer, and if we go down again, that will be it for many fans.
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January 16, 2018, 10:18am
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Truth be told, I'm very surprised that we find ourselves in this position given Slade's huge amount of experience.

His style of football was relatively pragmatic, but during his first spell, he signed some decent players and we really ought to have won promotion, but just never quite got the one or two results against the better teams which would have clinched it. We had real pace in Reddy and Cohen, real footballing intelligence in Lump, experience with Whittle at the back, Macca, Croft and Newey as good quality full-backs, athleticism with Bolland in midfield and we ended up with two 6'7" centre-halves so we had set pieces at both ends covered. I'd actually say that the addition of Woodhouse didn't help a great deal because we went a bit too direct and became a team looking for him to put set pieces into the box for the heads of Jones and Futcher.

This time around, however, he hasn't signed anyone with pace, hasn't signed anyone with great physicality or athleticism (Osborne in defence aside), we don't have aerially dominant centre-halves (though they are decent enough players), the full-backs aren't as capable and we're just generally lacking. Given the make up of that team which lost the play-off final under Slade, I'm amazed he's signed many of these players.

My theory is that he's become blinded by science with all the statistical information available these days due to those little bra-type trackers they wear as you can hear in his interviews when he uses Opta-speak, for a better description. Conceding too many goals at corners/set pieces? Bring everyone back in defence and reduce the number slightly. The stats will no doubt back him up, but the obvious thing that everyone else can see - that we've got no chance of a breakaway goal and we're just putting ourselves under repeated pressure as the ball keeps coming back into the box - is just missed.

Similarly when he commented something about the stats showing Woolford being in all the right areas more often than not. As is obvious to most observers, it really doesn't matter what areas you are in if you aren't getting the ball or influencing the game!

I don't see him being sacked by Fenty in the immediate future (and who the heck would we replace him with in any case?), so my only hope is that he manages to sign a couple of players who would have fitted into the 2005/06 team. Ones more like Reddy/Cohen/Lump/Jones obviously and not the Mendes or Goodfellow sort! A couple of better players would improve things greatly straight away.
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January 16, 2018, 10:41am
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i believe uncle Fester, ( Mr Slade)  said he had some" unfinished business" when he took over, did anybody ask him what it was ? after screwing us at Cardiff in the play offs , what dastardly plan has he concocted for us this time.  I didnt want him, i dont want him, but he is here to stay, God help us.
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Slade is either going to stay,resign or get sacked. Whatever happens we need contingency plans-do we have them-I very much doubt .How many supporters go along with Slades thoughts that we are still in with a chance of promotion.?  He is taking the pyss . Does he really think we are that stupid to take in anything that he says. Some of the things that he says makes me think that there is something seriously wrong somewhere. Come on J.F. offer the man a way out that he is able to take without losing too much face.  You know you want to.
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My theory is that he's become blinded by science with all the statistical information available these days due to those little bra-type trackers they wear as you can hear in his interviews when he uses Opta-speak, for a better description. Conceding too many goals at corners/set pieces? Bring everyone back in defence and reduce the number slightly. The stats will no doubt back him up, but the obvious thing that everyone else can see - that we've got no chance of a breakaway goal and we're just putting ourselves under repeated pressure as the ball keeps coming back into the box - is just missed.


I think Newport proved with their second goal (from our poorly executed corner) exactly why you don't bring 11 men back at a corner.
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As a football fan, i still have to believe we have a chance at promotion, otherwise what is the point? It's not beyond the realms of possibility to have a change in form and sneak into the play offs and i would expect any manager to make noises to that regard. We slated Bignot last season for giving up on them too early. Immediate worry for me though is to start moving back up the table away from danger.

Whether we actually think RS is capable of moving us in the right direction is another matter entirely. Of course he has to point out how average this league is and how any team can suddenly move up with a bit of a run. He can hardly come out and say, "this season is done and it's all about survival" can he?
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Appoint a Director of football e.g Buckley or someone similar whom Slade is answerable to which piosses Slade of so much he resigns Simples.


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Just a couple of weeks ago despite our drop in form I wasnt unduly concerned with our league position. The football was dull (no boring as intercourse) but i felt we had enough to stay out of trouble. i have never been a fan of Slade . One of the most overrated managers around imho. How on earth did he get as far as the Championship???? Beggars belief.

He's never achieved anything in over 20 years and is certainly not the guy to take us forward. But we were nearer the play offs than the bottom so I felt a change could wait until in the summer.

However our alarming decline tells me something needs to be done now. Chesterfield have started to pick up and i think they will finish above Town come May. 34 pts from 28 games for Town now. Probably need 5/6 wins from the last 18 games. You'd think that would be well within our means but the way the things have really gown downhill in the last month you wonder where the wins will come from. A message for Slade..you have to score goals to actually win games. Our hopes I think now rest on Barnet and FGR remaining shite enough to save us.

The board (Fenty) talk about backing the manager and bringing in better players. But I dont trust Slade to identify these players.

The 'tactics' arent effective. The football on show is amongst the worst I have seen in over 40 years of watching Town. I have tried to forget the football under Mickey Lyons , but this drivel we are having endure I actually think rivals that .The players look like they've lost belief in the manager, the fans are voting with their feet.

The worst part is that Slade does not know how to change it. He has no in game management at all. It's not working yet we continue with the same shite. Substitutions are always like for like. No change in formation or change in what we are doing. I dont think anyone on here would do the job any worse quite frankly. Same goes for the rest of the coaching staff. Either they dont have any ideas themselves or Slade isnt listening. Either way the whole lot need to go. And go now. I dont have any real answers right now as to who to appoint next. Dave Moore as caretaker until the end of the season if needed. Does anyone think that  could be any worse than what is happening right now?

But ultimately John Fenty needs to admit to himself that this latest in a string of bad decisions he has made over the years has shown it is time for him to step aside. He might say he isnt the Chairman but he is clearly the man in charge. The rest of the faceless board need to look in  the mirror  and ask themselves WTF am I doing for this club?

I understand Fenty's financial hold on the club is probably a hindrance on any potential new investors (if they are indeed any out there). I dont doubt Fenty genuinely loves the club and wants it to progress. He must realise he needs to  let someone else take control of the running of the club whether he remans in the boardroom or not.

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