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Left because slade wanted to play him out of position...
Says he still wants to play in the football league.
News for you Jamey, don't spit your dummy out because you don't get what you want, otherwise you won't make it as a professional footballer.
So whilst everyone is slating slade on this one, I'm with him.
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Don’t blame him at all for wanting to play football rather than kick his heels while Slade picks the same matchday squad every week.
He’s a cracking player but doesn’t fit with Slade’s tactics so why waste his time? If he thinks that dropping down a division and playing regularly in his favoured position is the way forward for him then good for him - it takes guts to admit its not going work and take positive steps to progress. Better than just collecting a wage and not being able to get near the first team because of lack of game time.
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I heard Slade got kegged in training by osbourne and he went mad, run after him with his joggers half way up waving his fist.
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If you're not getting picked in your preferred position, work harder and play as well as you can wherever you are put in the team.
Can you imagine Kevin Jobling telling Buckley he was off unless he was played in central midfield?
If true, this is an example why he's in his mid-20s and back in non-league, regardless of his footballing ability.
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Isn't part of being a professional footballer to earn the right to play in your preferred position? He had the thick end of four months out, found out that he might have to work to win his shirt and then decided he didn't fancy it. Obviously I've got loads of sympathy that his daughter was poorly but there's a serious case of the tail wagging the dog - he should have approached like Jamille Matt did after his daughter had been hurt - fight for the shirt!
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I just thought it was a bizarre interview - no one comes out well. To me, and as friskney'll tell you, I m not the brightest- but he does seem to be saying that he wasn't really prepared to fight for his position. I figure if I want to play centre mid I ll just work my balls off til i get that- not go back to where it's comfortable, but I do appreciate that there were personal reasons too. For what it's worth I also think there's a touch of "cashing in" on the anti slade feelings by sort of but not quite blaming him , which I think is a little cynical.
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Typical pro........ did the bleeding hearts thing to get what he wants and then makes out none of the reason for moving is his fault.
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He came here for bignot or the money not gtfc.
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Basically: I don’t want to fight for a place, and I want the team to be shaped around me.
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Left because slade wanted to play him out of position...
Says he still wants to play in the football league.
News for you Jamey, don't spit your dummy out because you don't get what you want, otherwise you won't make it as a professional footballer.
So whilst everyone is slating slade on this one, I'm with him.
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I'm don't think Slade and the club are wrong on this one. He's clearly a talented player, but he appears to be a big minge. He didn't want to be here and not playing didn't help that. I'm not sure if Rose couldn't have managed his running though, they might have been a decent pairing.
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I'm don't think Slade and the club are wrong on this one. He's clearly a talented player, but he appears to be a big minge. He didn't want to be here and not playing didn't help that. I'm not sure if Rose couldn't have managed his running though, they might have been a decent pairing.
I'm sorry, but that bit has just made me laugh like an absolute lunatic on a train to the deepest darkest West Country. Whatever the rights and wrongs of this whole saga, we'll always have Headingley's minge (comment). Absolute genius, hat's off, sir. (for those of you of a more mature and less puerile nature, sometimes, profanity just works. It's not that we have a small vocabulary, we just know how to use it to it's greatest effect) |
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We all love an attacking player with flair, and Jamey definitely falls under that category. BUT, I do think as part of a midfield two, we’d be exposed with him in there. He’s great with the ball, great going forward, but you’ve gotta have more to your game at this level I think.
It was suggested by many on here that people would stick him out wide....obviously that is not where he wants to play.
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intercourse me, disgruntled employee leaves because he didn’t feel valued and his boss showed no direction. Just wouldn’t happen in the real world would it!
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Ooh a Red Cross, thank you whoever you are. However, much though I admire your generosity, it would probably be better if you kept it and stuck it over your bottom. Your boyfriend will appreciate a clearly defined target.
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I doubt I’ll lose any sleep, if people can’t handle the truth they shouldn’t put themselves into an environment where it’s likely to appear.
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Unlike his breath test scores which were well high
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I'm sorry, and I know that I will get a lot of red x's for this, but sometimes I wonder about a minority of town fans. It's very difficult for me to comprehend how so many people are unable to see an alternative point of view, or to have the simple human sense of empathy.
Osborn moved out of his geographical and footballing comfort zone, because he had a chance of a pro career given to him by his trusted manager Bignot. No sooner than he's got here then his mentor is sacked and slade comes in, a grizzled old pro, with his very different ideas. Osborne is injured, far away from his family and not really wanted. Would you really, honestly and truly want to be living in a cledthorpes bedsit, 100 miles from your family with your Youngn desperately ill, earning a few hundred a week and faced with a boss who doesn't ' fancy" you? Just think how hat must feel on a miserable Wednesday night in cledthorpes. Fair play to jamie, if your family comes first n foremost the he's probably made the right decision. Football is not the be all and end all. Family is.
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You’ve fallen for his excuses as well then ? He could’ve done well here for a season and got a move to a bigger club with bigger wages etc etc which would’ve benefited them more . Or fool off back to tinpot Solihull and female dog about gtfc . Soft lad . Oh and he didn’t fook off till we’d got his poorly knee better . Oh and he came out with a load of bollox tweets to try and keep the fans inside. Tosser .
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I'm sorry, and I know that I will get a lot of red x's for this, but sometimes I wonder about a minority of town fans. It's very difficult for me to comprehend how so many people are unable to see an alternative point of view, or to have the simple human sense of empathy.
Osborn moved out of his geographical and footballing comfort zone, because he had a chance of a pro career given to him by his trusted manager Bignot. No sooner than he's got here then his mentor is sacked and slade comes in, a grizzled old pro, with his very different ideas. Osborne is injured, far away from his family and not really wanted. Would you really, honestly and truly want to be living in a cledthorpes bedsit, 100 miles from your family with your Youngn desperately ill, earning a few hundred a week and faced with a boss who doesn't ' fancy" you? Just think how hat must feel on a miserable Wednesday night in cledthorpes. Fair play to jamie, if your family comes first n foremost the he's probably made the right decision. Football is not the be all and end all. Family is.
No, fair play in many ways. But still, if you don’t want to be here on a miserable Wednesday (whilst getting paid a footballers wage), then you don’t really wanna play for GTFC. And I’m fairly sure he only played under Bignot for a few months prior to coming here, correct me if I’m wrong. |
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I'm sorry, and I know that I will get a lot of red x's for this, but sometimes I wonder about a minority of town fans. It's very difficult for me to comprehend how so many people are unable to see an alternative point of view, or to have the simple human sense of empathy.
Osborn moved out of his geographical and footballing comfort zone, because he had a chance of a pro career given to him by his trusted manager Bignot. No sooner than he's got here then his mentor is sacked and slade comes in, a grizzled old pro, with his very different ideas. Osborne is injured, far away from his family and not really wanted. Would you really, honestly and truly want to be living in a cledthorpes bedsit, 100 miles from your family with your Youngn desperately ill, earning a few hundred a week and faced with a boss who doesn't ' fancy" you? Just think how hat must feel on a miserable Wednesday night in cledthorpes. Fair play to jamie, if your family comes first n foremost the he's probably made the right decision. Football is not the be all and end all. Family is.
I don't disagree with much of that but you only have the players word saying the manager didn't fancy him. Slade was quick enough to throw him in of the bench as soon as he could with Jamey making an impact for the 3rd goal versus Swindon. The fact the player came out with that comment after he got what he wanted speaks volumes. As well as being taken out of his geographical comfort zone I suspect he was taken out of his professional comfort zone to. |
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Exactly Herts, I don't get all the people just going along with the "Slade wouldn't have played him" line.
Jamey was only back fit again for 5 minutes and Slade brought him on against Swindon in the first real game he had the chance to use him.
Might have been left midfield (not central) but it doesn't suggest a manager didn't fancy him.
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It's always the same, a player leaves and publically states it's the club/managers fault giving all sorts of reasons. The club/manager can't go out and say all the reasons on the other side of the argument because if they did, nobody would want to sign if the dirty linen gets publicly aired. I guess it plays well for getting the new club behind them as well as sympathy from the fans they've left.
It's the same with managers, Bignot left and said lots about our club, but if the club came out and said all the crazy stuff he did then no manager would want to come here in case the club talked about them too.
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I'm sorry, and I know that I will get a lot of red x's for this, but sometimes I wonder about a minority of town fans. It's very difficult for me to comprehend how so many people are unable to see an alternative point of view, or to have the simple human sense of empathy. Osborn moved out of his geographical and footballing comfort zone, because he had a chance of a pro career given to him by his trusted manager Bignot. No sooner than he's got here then his mentor is sacked and slade comes in, a grizzled old pro, with his very different ideas. Osborne is injured, far awayfrom his family and not really wanted. Would you really, honestly and truly want to be living in a cledthorpes bedsit, 100 miles from your family with your Youngn desperately ill, earning a few hundred a week and faced with a boss who doesn't ' fancy" you? Just think how hat must feel on a miserable Wednesday night in cledthorpes. Fair play to jamie, if your family comes first n foremost the he's probably made the right decision. Football is not the be all and end all. Family is.
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No, fair play in many ways. But still, if you don’t want to be here on a miserable Wednesday (whilst getting paid a footballers wage), then you don’t really wanna play for GTFC.
And I’m fairly sure he only played under Bignot for a few months prior to coming here, correct me if I’m wrong.
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Ooh a Red Cross, thank you whoever you are. However, much though I admire your generosity, it would probably be better if you kept it and stuck it over your bottom. Your boyfriend will appreciate a clearly defined target.
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I'm sorry, and I know that I will get a lot of red x's for this, but sometimes I wonder about a minority of town fans. It's very difficult for me to comprehend how so many people are unable to see an alternative point of view, or to have the simple human sense of empathy.
Osborn moved out of his geographical and footballing comfort zone, because he had a chance of a pro career given to him by his trusted manager Bignot. No sooner than he's got here then his mentor is sacked and slade comes in, a grizzled old pro, with his very different ideas. Osborne is injured, far away from his family and not really wanted. Would you really, honestly and truly want to be living in a cledthorpes bedsit, 100 miles from your family with your Youngn desperately ill, earning a few hundred a week and faced with a boss who doesn't ' fancy" you? Just think how hat must feel on a miserable Wednesday night in cledthorpes. Fair play to jamie, if your family comes first n foremost the he's probably made the right decision. Football is not the be all and end all. Family is.
You make some fair points, but a change in manager is part and parcel of professional football. He should never have been signed if he wasn't prepared to move. It shows little commitment to a long contract. |
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Wednesdays weren't miserable, when we had Melody Night to look forward to.
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I'm sorry, and I know that I will get a lot of red x's for this, but sometimes I wonder about a minority of town fans. It's very difficult for me to comprehend how so many people are unable to see an alternative point of view, or to have the simple human sense of empathy.
Osborn moved out of his geographical and footballing comfort zone, because he had a chance of a pro career given to him by his trusted manager Bignot. No sooner than he's got here then his mentor is sacked and slade comes in, a grizzled old pro, with his very different ideas. Osborne is injured, far away from his family and not really wanted. Would you really, honestly and truly want to be living in a cledthorpes bedsit, 100 miles from your family with your Youngn desperately ill, earning a few hundred a week and faced with a boss who doesn't ' fancy" you? Just think how hat must feel on a miserable Wednesday night in cledthorpes. Fair play to jamie, if your family comes first n foremost the he's probably made the right decision. Football is not the be all and end all. Family is.
He only played a dozen games for Bignot at Solihull so I'm not sure about the 'trusted' manager bit. Of course family comes first, but a 30 month contract should come with commitment from both sides and the reality that, if you sign a contract of that duration, the manager is likely to change before you get to the end of it. The bottom line of all of this is that we didn't get to see if he could fulfil his promise due to a set of circumstances that could hardly have been predicted. |
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Sooo....i believe the Winter Gardens closed in 2007.......which saw the end of "The Bags" .... now we all know that players of great standing locally used to frequent "The Bags" on a Wednesday night hoping for some midweek cardio work and groin stretching and to take on liquids which are essential for any athlete.
Would we say that GTFC has seen more good times or more bad times since 2007 ? Coincidence ??
The most iconic "couldnt settle" player in modern memory...Martin Butler ..came to us in ..yes...2007 !! Coincidence ??
Players unhappy with the area ever since seems to be on the increase too.......cant recall remember the Lever's, Gilberts, Childs, Handyside, Macca, Pouton, Reddy, leaving because they couldnt settle...... Coincidence ??
JF .....scrap plans for a new stadium and rebuild The Winter Gardens instead !!!
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I haven't heard England centre back Gomez at liverpool refusing to play at full back...
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It's a good job John McDermott and John Cockerill didn't take the Jamie Osbourne attitude when they were converted from right wing to right back and CH to CM by Alan Buckley.
But perhaps they felt comfortable in their new roles whereas Jamie might not have done. The first time I ever saw Nathan Pond was when Fleetwood came to BP and he was in mid-field. He ran the show and scored I do believe. But he hated that position and even went out on loan to a lower level club so he could play centre-back. He was centre-back for us and was a real talent. It does help a players mindset if he can play in his preferred position - some take to change and others don't, just like most humans. |
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Sooo....i believe the Winter Gardens closed in 2007.......which saw the end of "The Bags" .... now we all know that players of great standing locally used to frequent "The Bags" on a Wednesday night hoping for some midweek cardio work and groin stretching and to take on liquids which are essential for any athlete.
Would we say that GTFC has seen more good times or more bad times since 2007 ? Coincidence ??
The most iconic "couldnt settle" player in modern memory...Martin Butler ..came to us in ..yes...2007 !! Coincidence ??
Players unhappy with the area ever since seems to be on the increase too.......cant recall remember the Lever's, Gilberts, Childs, Handyside, Macca, Pouton, Reddy, leaving because they couldnt settle...... Coincidence ??
JF .....scrap plans for a new stadium and rebuild The Winter Gardens instead !!!
Brilliant mate I didn't realiise my original light hearted post had so much significance in the demise of the team since the Winter Gardens closed. |
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It's a good job John McDermott and John Cockerill didn't take the Jamie Osbourne attitude when they were converted from right wing to right back and CH to CM by Alan Buckley.
The difference was Buckley new what he was doing. |
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The difference was Buckley new what he was doing.
Deffo. Buckley was reasonably new to management and he knew what he was doing. |
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Brilliant mate I didn't realiise my original light hearted post had so much significance in the demise of the team since the Winter Gardens closed.
Just trying to lighten the mood.........but in doing so i think i have actually convinced myself there is a connection. |
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He was sent off again today.
Just saying
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He was sent off again today.
Just saying
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Can there be much doubt left, he went because of the manager, after his interview in the [url=http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jamey-osborne-still-dreams-football-1057707]GrimsbyTelegraph[/url].
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Sooo....i believe the Winter Gardens closed in 2007.......which saw the end of "The Bags" .... now we all know that players of great standing locally used to frequent "The Bags" on a Wednesday night hoping for some midweek cardio work and groin stretching and to take on liquids which are essential for any athlete.
Would we say that GTFC has seen more good times or more bad times since 2007 ? Coincidence ??
The most iconic "couldnt settle" player in modern memory...Martin Butler ..came to us in ..yes...2007 !! Coincidence ??
Players unhappy with the area ever since seems to be on the increase too.......cant recall remember the Lever's, Gilberts, Childs, Handyside, Macca, Pouton, Reddy, leaving because they couldnt settle...... Coincidence ??
JF .....scrap plans for a new stadium and rebuild The Winter Gardens instead !!!
However Ivano was a regular at the Pier so do we need to boot out the Yorker chippy and reinstate that too? |
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However Ivano was a regular at the Pier so do we need to boot out the Yorker chippy and reinstate that too?
And while we are at it, let's rebuild the Lifeboat. That was my usual round, Lynton, Lifeboat, Winter Gardens, mainly Heavy Metal night on a Sunday. |
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| January 15, 2018, 11:34am |
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Just one question that no one has asked yet:
Which players would Osborne have had to oust to play in his preferred centre midfield role?
Based on this season alone, I'd say Summerfield and Rose have been our two best central midfielders. I'd have wanted Osborne challenging those two, but clearly Slade thinks he's more useful on the left wing (don't see it myself).
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Just one question that no one has asked yet:
Which players would Osborne have had to oust to play in his preferred centre midfield role?
Based on this season alone, I'd say Summerfield and Rose have been our two best central midfielders. I'd have wanted Osborne challenging those two, but clearly Slade thinks he's more useful on the left wing (don't see it myself).
IMO he's a much better player than both. However, when you use you midfield for the sole purpose of picking up lose balls and fire them into the channels when not bypassing them entirely by getting your defenders to ignore the midfield and fire into the channels themselves, that would be wasting Jamie Osborne. However, if you were to use your midfield as a driving force in the game to help build attacks then he is head and shoulders over both. |
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Just one question that no one has asked yet:
Which players would Osborne have had to oust to play in his preferred centre midfield role?
Based on this season alone, I'd say Summerfield and Rose have been our two best central midfielders. I'd have wanted Osborne challenging those two, but clearly Slade thinks he's more useful on the left wing (don't see it myself).
Would have been better in a 4-2-3-1 formation in my opinion. Summerfield and Rose as defensive midfielders (with licence to get forward as appropriate), focal striker up front (probably Matt as best option with squad we have) and a 3 of Osborne, Jones and Dembele with licence to swap positions throughout the front line. Bit ambitious though for those currently in charge. UTFM |
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Just one question that no one has asked yet:
Which players would Osborne have had to oust to play in his preferred centre midfield role?
Based on this season alone, I'd say Summerfield and Rose have been our two best central midfielders. I'd have wanted Osborne challenging those two, but clearly Slade thinks he's more useful on the left wing (don't see it myself).
I think he'd have been fantastic in a midfield three given license to roam forward and drift into pockets of space. Rose and Summerfield behind him doing the donkey work wouldn't have been too bad either. |
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