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dicko995
January 11, 2018, 3:31pm

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Looking at the transfer market, I have a gut feeling we are missing out on the players we need. Over the last couple of days,Port Vale,Notts County, Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe have snapped up what I would call gems, mainly on loan deals. There has been no news on any interest from the beloved lords of our club except about Codey from Truro, whom many clubs are interested in. Were nearly half way through the market deadline and all we have is a goalkeeper and an 'apprentice' striker. As the days go by, the games go by, and yes, I do realise it takes time for the phone calls to come in from agents etc, but I would really like to see players being signed up sooner than later, as we all know that as the deadline approaches,all that is left is the dregs, lets hope we get some gems soon.
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Nothing new  there ,expect an influx on the 29th Jan.


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Just a maybe here, but maybe clubs don't want to send their decent young players on loan to us because of the style of football Slade plays.
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Looking at the transfer market, I have a gut feeling we are missing out on the players we need. Over the last couple of days,Port Vale,Notts County, Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe have snapped up what I would call gems, mainly on loan deals. There has been no news on any interest from the beloved lords of our club except about Codey from Truro, whom many clubs are interested in. Were nearly half way through the market deadline and all we have is a goalkeeper and an 'apprentice' striker. As the days go by, the games go by, and yes, I do realise it takes time for the phone calls to come in from agents etc, but I would really like to see players being signed up sooner than later, as we all know that as the deadline approaches,all that is left is the dregs, lets hope we get some gems soon.


Bignot brought plenty of players in early doors in hindsight it never really worked.

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January 11, 2018, 4:19pm
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Bignot brought plenty of players in early doors in hindsight it never really worked.



To be fair, he wasn't given long to make it work and his last game was a comfortable away win against a team that got promoted. A goal would be a start!
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January 11, 2018, 4:51pm

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Waiting doesn't always leave the dregs. A player may lower his sights a tad as the month goes by and we get someone we maybe didn't think we would. Wait and see what happens and if at the end of the month it's underwhelming, then have a pop.

A lot of the signings i have seen have been of the sort we have brought in so far.
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January 11, 2018, 4:53pm

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Indeed. Jones came in at the last minute (I know he's not playing well at the moment but he's still one of our best players), whilst Gunning came in mid month.


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In all honesty , reading between the lines of the " boards" recent statement i think its a case of get some out to release funds/budget to be able to get some more in.
Last transfer window it appeared that the board and manager were expecting/hoping a few would have gone out and we ended up being extremely top heavy in centre mid once Bignot had signed (9 was it ?) players in during the transfer window and hardly anyone went.  

We dont want that happening again.


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Quoted from Abdul19
Indeed. Jones came in at the last minute (I know he's not playing well at the moment but he's still one of our best players), whilst Gunning came in mid month.


That's true, but it wasn't out of the blue, we'd been chasing him for weeks
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January 11, 2018, 6:22pm

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Reading the club statement the other day, it's a bit vague as to when the new 'quality' players will be arriving. It doesn't specifically state that they will be in this window as far as i can tell. Will some of the extra budget go on paying off players early?

If the player/s they have indentified and want are not available until the summer, will the fans accept that, given that most are now assuming we are signing some in the next three weeks? Think Russ had already hinted at that in the interview.
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January 11, 2018, 6:42pm

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Quoted from ginnywings
Reading the club statement the other day, it's a bit vague as to when the new 'quality' players will be arriving. It doesn't specifically state that they will be in this window as far as i can tell. Will some of the extra budget go on paying off players early?

If the player/s they have indentified and want are not available until the summer, will the fans accept that, given that most are now assuming we are signing some in the next three weeks? Think Russ had already hinted at that in the interview.


Ye see that about 'quality players' wonder if there the same ones that are supposed to make the hear stand up on the back of our necks that we've been waiting for for donkeys years????


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January 11, 2018, 7:29pm

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it is a reasonable statement on how things  are developing, cant see how it warrents a red cross, I just want us to get involved in getting the players we need, and not wait until its at the deadline. I just think we should grab while out there. Maybe a few 'crabs' with guilty continence are still having bad feelings like me with the continuation of the Clown being in command/, just that I thought the sooner the better to changw thinfgs around, but me myself want rid too, lets see on Saturday!, we lose, we get rid, we hope
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January 11, 2018, 7:36pm
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We don’t want fans like you . Stay away  if that’s all you want is to see us lose.
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January 11, 2018, 7:47pm

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it is a reasonable statement on how things  are developing, cant see how it warrents a red cross, I just want us to get involved in getting the players we need, and not wait until its at the deadline. I just think we should grab while out there. Maybe a few 'crabs' with guilty continence are still having bad feelings like me with the continuation of the Clown being in command/, just that I thought the sooner the better to changw thinfgs around, but me myself want rid too, lets see on Saturday!, we lose, we get rid, we hope


I'd get to the Docs with those ailments.
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January 11, 2018, 9:42pm
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Quoted from ginnywings
Reading the club statement the other day, it's a bit vague as to when the new 'quality' players will be arriving. It doesn't specifically state that they will be in this window as far as i can tell. Will some of the extra budget go on paying off players early?

If the player/s they have indentified and want are not available until the summer, will the fans accept that, given that most are now assuming we are signing some in the next three weeks? Think Russ had already hinted at that in the interview.


I agree listening to Russell Slade's interview today he mentioned that some of his targets may not arrive until the summer.

I think he was just preparing us for not too many more signings this month which I hope is not the case as I wouldn't want the burden of our failure to score goals to be put on that young lad's shoulders.
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January 11, 2018, 9:55pm

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As if people want us to lose. That's crazy, I'll be there on Saturday hoping for a massive turnaround, definitely not expecting it though.
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I’d much prefer we waited to get the ones we wanted (like Klopp did with Van Djik) rather than rushed into signing rubbish (like he did in the summer TBH. Except that was due to dilly dallying about with players would never sign (Chicksen, Revell, Hart, Walker, Crofts etc) and ending up with what nobody else wanted (Hooper, Dixon, Woolford). Please learn. I’d much rather have a squad of 20-22 really top quality players for this level than 28+ with some “good”, some “ok” and most “not good enough”.


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January 11, 2018, 11:11pm

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Quoted from dicko995
and I really hope we get thrashed on Saturday. I am totally against the crap from the board. The Clown will not get better, he should of been gone last satursay evening. Hope Fenty and Clown Slade like making history in bringing the club into oblivion


This opinion of yours would have been better if

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Supporting the Mighty Mariners for over 30 years, home town club is were the heart and soul is and it's great to be a part of it.

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January 12, 2018, 10:31am

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I’m sorry but the same people who are calling for Slade and Fenty to leave are the same people bleating about not signing new players. Who the hell is going to sign for a club who’s fans are up in arms and where the management team are in danger of losing their jobs.
The board have publicly backed the management in order to stabilise the club and hopefully convince players it’s safe to sign for us, has it worked? Unlikely, as most fans have just ridiculed the statement and continued to call for heads rather than rally around and say ‘f@ck it, I’m not keen on the manager or/ Fenty, but it’s my club and I’m going to support the team and see where it gets us for the rest of the season’.
DublinMariner, you Sir/madam have inspired me to get off my backside and go to the upcoming games including Colchester, which I had decided not to bother with, thank you.
I’ll be there on Saturday against Newport too, not singing ‘Slade out, but All Town are we’ UTFM


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January 12, 2018, 12:32pm

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I’m sorry but the same people who are calling for Slade and Fenty to leave are the same people bleating about not signing new players. Who the hell is going to sign for a club who’s fans are up in arms and where the management team are in danger of losing their jobs.
The board have publicly backed the management in order to stabilise the club and hopefully convince players it’s safe to sign for us, has it worked? Unlikely, as most fans have just ridiculed the statement and continued to call for heads rather than rally around and say ‘f@ck it, I’m not keen on the manager or/ Fenty, but it’s my club and I’m going to support the team and see where it gets us for the rest of the season’.
DublinMariner, you Sir/madam have inspired me to get off my backside and go to the upcoming games including Colchester, which I had decided not to bother with, thank you.
I’ll be there on Saturday against Newport too, not singing ‘Slade out, but All Town are we’ UTFM


Players will sign if you pay them the right money.
The style of the statement was generally praised as an improvement by most. Some had questions about the content and I would say rightly so.
This sort of fan blaming excuses the failure of the board and the management. The fans have the least influence on whether a player signs for the club or not.
You can't behave the way that our Board have in recent history and suddenly expect a rallying cry to unite to have the desired impact. The proof of the aims stated will be in the signings made in January and the results for the rest of the season.
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January 12, 2018, 1:42pm

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Players will sign if you pay them the right money.
The style of the statement was generally praised as an improvement by most. Some had questions about the content and I would say rightly so.
This sort of fan blaming excuses the failure of the board and the management. The fans have the least influence on whether a player signs for the club or not.
You can't behave the way that our Board have in recent history and suddenly expect a rallying cry to unit to have the desired impact. The proof of the aims stated will be in the signings made in January and the results for the rest of the season.


I’m not blaming fans, give me strength! I’m putting my feelings toward the board/chairmanship/Management to one side and trying to get behind the team because at present it seems futile to fight when unity is more productive.


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January 12, 2018, 2:18pm

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I’m not blaming fans, give me strength! I’m putting my feelings toward the board/chairmanship/Management to one side and trying to get behind the team because at present it seems futile to fight when unity is more productive.


You suggested that players wouldn't sign for us because of the fans and because they haven't united behind a statement from the club. This is the sort of excuse those at the club trot out when things aren't going well and it does point the finger at fans.

Unity is more productive, but only if people have faith and trust in what they are getting behind. I'd certainly like to see people get behind the players in the ground and that is what I will be doing.
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I’m not blaming fans, give me strength! I’m putting my feelings toward the board/chairmanship/Management to one side and trying to get behind the team because at present it seems futile to fight when unity is more productive.


But there can be no unity atm. The non-chairmen/board made sure of the when they appointed Slade.

They could not have made an appointment more divisive than that.

The club and fans were still enjoying the after effects of getting back in the League before then. Most of the current division within the club stems from this one appointment.

Personally, I want to see this club do well but I do not see it doing this under this management team. I don't expect us to win all the time but I do expect something resembling football rather than the kick and rush from another decade we are forced to watch. Even if we were winning playing that way, I still wouldn't want to watch it. I also think the non-chairmen and current board run the club poorly. Therefore I think the club is heading for trouble with it's current set up.

I'm a season ticket holder so the club already has my money. The only way I can make my feelings clear to the board is to not turn up to matches and hope enough others do too. I do know there are many season ticket holders who are just not going because of Slade's style of football.

So far I've read the fault is with the toxic fan base posting negative comments on this forum (as if that makes any difference) and the only true supporters are the ones that show their unity and still go the games.

Maybe the fans who stay away because they are concerned about the clubs future under the clubs current direction and management care more than they are being given credit for.
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January 12, 2018, 2:57pm

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Everyone has the right to attend games and I would never criticise or blame them for their decisions to either attend or not. I do believe that all football fans can have an impact on players if there is a lot of negativity at a club, this could affect our current situation but I don’t blame the fans for this. We have a right to be pi55ed off because it is our club, not JFs or the boards. Any blame should be shouldered by them as they make the decisions. I detest the type of football we are playing under Slade and I think we need a clear out on all levels but I would never hope for us to lose just to get rid of a manager.
All that said, we need the kind of positivity I have seen in some of the responses to the boards statement and not the negativity in others.
Im fed up with negativity, positive thoughts may lead to positive actions and outcomes UTM.


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