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Yes, because he's had a go at it for 15 years and hasn't done very well. He's saddled the club with loads of debt and in that time the club has been an almost total failure. He's said he's fed up of it, nobody will take the club on while the benign loans exist, so why prolong his time in charge? [/quote
I've got the same question. I presume he prolongs it because the club isn't worth what he's invested and so he might as well keep hold of it instead of giving it away in the hope that somebody stumps up at least afew million to buy him out. It's never going to happen
Stick us in the same position as when he bought the club, a championship club, and I'm sure we'd be a lot more desirable. But we aren't are we
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| Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  Update: I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly |
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| KingstonMariner |
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All that plus wages, transfers, ground maintenance, expenses .......... every year ....... rain or shine.
Pie in the sky to think the fans could afford to finance that even if JF gave them the club for nothing.
There's this thing which might be news to you RRFC. It's called an entry ticket. it entitles the holder to enter the ground to watch the football. But, there's a catch. You have to pay money for the ticket. And if that isn't enough of an innovation. Well it's several innovations in one. It's generally called 'commercial income'. Companies pay money.... ...well you get the drift. |
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| Civvy at last |
| January 10, 2018, 10:00pm |
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High net worth individual... I suggest you google it.
What the hell has the NHS got to do with the football business.
You are beginning to sound like a trade unionist
Can I just say congratulations on some top trolling. At least you put some effort in. Although emotive issues will always make your sad hobby that much easier. |
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| KingstonMariner |
| January 10, 2018, 10:02pm |
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I’d be interested to know how many people criticising John Fenty are actual shareholders. Not many I’d have thought, and before you ask yes I am a shareholder.
Of course he has made mistakes, but at least he’s put his money where his mouth is which is more than be said for the majority of those critics.
Just a thought!! UTM.
Another patronising idiot in the 'oooh, you're ordinary football fans, you couldn't possibly understand business. There's no way you could afford to buy shares.' |
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| KingstonMariner |
| January 10, 2018, 10:04pm |
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London mariner, and RRFC and Ascend are right. That is the reality.
It's not like arithmetic, where 1 + 1 is always 2. They're opinions not facts. |
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| friskneymariner |
| January 10, 2018, 10:07pm |
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Depends on your definition of high net worth,I know some very rich people who are totally devoid of any ethical values would you say those are high net worth?
No,sorry yes of course you would because like you only value people by their monetary value not what they contribute to society as a whole, well forgive me you sound like a materialistic conservative who only values things in monetary terms.
Being a committed anarchist all my life why would I partake in anything as hierarchical and organised as a Union.
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| FishOutOfWater |
| January 10, 2018, 10:07pm |
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Quoted from 120790
Im sorry, and don’t take this the wrong way, but you are living in a strange world if you genuinely believe that. Certainly not the business world.
In this day and age, the word “Club” really isn’t appropriate any longer in football. No longer is Football a member based environment. It’s now, moreso than ever before, a very tough and difficult business world.
Supporters are merely that, people that will love their club, live their club and worship their heroes and legends when they come and go. Their non attendance and low morale may even influence an owner to fire a manager. But that’s as far as it goes
To keep a business going like GTFC takes a huge amount of finance and passion to part with that cash. It’s a business transaction though. Owners have every right to protect their loan, to expect to get it back.
Without a high net worth individual like Mr Fenty, you wouldn’t be having an emotive conversation about your beloved football team, because frankly it would be dead and gone years ago.
While I understand that there may well be more to JF's involvement in Town than meets the eye and you are entitled to defend him as much as others choose to criticise him, your last statement is merely your opinion and not fact Whilst JF chose to put money in to the club when it was facing some major financial difficulties, nobody can say that the club would definitely have gone under without his involvement....that is mere speculation on your part |
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| KingstonMariner |
| January 10, 2018, 10:08pm |
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Whether you like it or not, what Ascend says is correct. There is no way the fans can remove Fenty and buy the club. To do that, you need to find a sugar daddy with £2m quid or more.
JF has always said he would sell if a buyer came along but they haven't.
It always amazes me how posters on here think that running a lower league football club is so easy. If it was so easy to have success and get promoted each season and never get relegated and never make bad decisions we'd need a different league structure with 24 promotions, no relegations and no sackings.
I've heard of reading between the lines, but you're writing between them! No one has said running a football club is easy. And your second sentence is one of those nonsense statements that no one can logically take the opposite view to - and no one has suggested or implied. It's like one of those slogans politicians come out with like "we're the party for law-abiding citizens", "we're the party for working families". |
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| Cambs Mariner |
| January 10, 2018, 10:10pm |
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Well after reading all the richer than thou crap that has been spouted on this thread tonight the sooner we get rid of the man at the top the better. Ascend for me you have done more damage than the vanilla coated statement the board put out last night.
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| KingstonMariner |
| January 10, 2018, 10:11pm |
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JF has stated in the past that the money he put in to the club has effectively been "written off" ( in his head that is ), so if push ever came to shove and he really has had enough of running the club - as he intimated at the fans' forum - would he walk away without his donation? I very much doubt it.... 
Are you suggesting he wasn't telling the truth?! |
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