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It sums up how I feel for sure, I don't even enjoy going to BP and watching a game anymore. It used to be something I'd look forward to all week and win,lose or draw I'd get invested in the game and have fun doing it. The last couple of times I went to games before I stopped I just felt nothing watching it. Not paying that money to be bored out my skull with a sense of annoyance at everything the club is, the collective apathy of all involved and the fans. To be quite honest I feel that way about The Fishy too. Neither is what it was and the sense of fun is gone.
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It sums up how I feel for sure, I don't even enjoy going to BP and watching a game anymore. It used to be something I'd look forward to all week and win,lose or draw I'd get invested in the game and have fun doing it.
The last couple of times I went to games before I stopped I just felt nothing watching it. Not paying that money to be bored out my skull with a sense of annoyance at everything the club is, the collective apathy of all involved and the fans. To be quite honest I feel that way about The Fishy too. Neither is what it was and the sense of fun is gone.
Ditto mate, I was on about this to me mate the other day. Saturdays used to be a buzz, bets on, few pints, watch town, few hundred more pints after the game or even the away day buzz. Its been killed from the boardroom to the pitch, cheers you utter tossers!
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I keep seeing it mooted about a 10% increase but I haven`t seen anything from the Club if indeed this is fact it`s another backward step IMHO? They need a lot more fans to compete not even less.
FACT--from J.F. in summer break
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Or on the flipside we go pay our money to watch poor football and give Slade more money to waste on more 2-year contracts on substandard players.
Costly? Not my problem, let the people who drew up the contract and terms sort out the pay off.
A lot of the time? You're working overtime for excuses here. Throwing down a challenge to posters to take a metaphorical swing at him at a forum then complaining like a spoilt child at the forum that fans use him as a (metaphorical) punchbag is not remotely close to your far fetched theory.
Great post. I think the bit I highlighted is an excellent point. Alienate people from having any sense of ownership of the club and decisions, then you take it on yourself to deal with the consequences. Or should do.
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One thing that Nigel Lowther said on the Radio yesterday that really struck me was that there was still time for a "dignified exit" for Mr Fenty. He suggested that if he held his hands up and said "i've had a go and done the best I could" allowing somebody else or the fans to have a run at the club by offering it debt free, people would really buy into it and it would be best for the club.
The way the club is being run, it will be a slow and painful death.
If he did that he could go with his head held high.
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I would like to put the record straight about how Fenty came to be chairman and major share holder.
Ramsden was chairman at the time and had lent the club 350 grand to keep it afloat. He spit his dummy out and resigned, and demanded his money back in full. It was Fenty that paid him off in full out of his own pocket which ultimately saved the club from financial ruin.
Don't get me wrong, JF has made plenty of mistakes in his time at the helm. I believe that Pete Fernaux was the footballing brains, but, unfortunately, he had to step down leaving JF to run the whole thing on his own with nobody to turn to for advice. Like the rest of us,he is GTFC through and through, but unfortunately doesn't have the financial clout to take us to the next step. We are Grimsby, nobody is going to come here waving cheque books about. The only people that would, would have had to be born here. Just remember some of the other clubs that chased the dream of a rich sugar daddy, only to fall flat on their face. (Sven at Notts County FFS).
One thing I have learned in my sixty odd years on this planet is that things never stay the same indefinitely. Just be patient, like I was waiting, watching poor Town teams for years until McMennamy turned up by chance, and we suddenly rose up. Then it was Sir Alan playing the best football I have ever seen. Our turn will come again.
KEEP THE FAITH
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I would like to put the record straight about how Fenty came to be chairman and major share holder.
Ramsden was chairman at the time and had lent the club 350 grand to keep it afloat. He spit his dummy out and resigned, and demanded his money back in full. It was Fenty that paid him off in full out of his own pocket which ultimately saved the club from financial ruin.
Don't get me wrong, JF has made plenty of mistakes in his time at the helm. I believe that Pete Fernaux was the footballing brains, but, unfortunately, he had to step down leaving JF to run the whole thing on his own with nobody to turn to for advice. Like the rest of us,he is GTFC through and through, but unfortunately doesn't have the financial clout to take us to the next step. We are Grimsby, nobody is going to come here waving cheque books about. The only people that would, would have had to be born here. Just remember some of the other clubs that chased the dream of a rich sugar daddy, only to fall flat on their face. (Sven at Notts County FFS).
One thing I have learned in my sixty odd years on this planet is that things never stay the same indefinitely. Just be patient, like I was waiting, watching poor Town teams for years until McMennamy turned up by chance, and we suddenly rose up. Then it was Sir Alan playing the best football I have ever seen. Our turn will come again.
KEEP THE FAITH
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But will it come with JF and RS running the club?
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I would like to put the record straight about how Fenty came to be chairman and major share holder.
Ramsden was chairman at the time and had lent the club 350 grand to keep it afloat. He spit his dummy out and resigned, and demanded his money back in full. It was Fenty that paid him off in full out of his own pocket which ultimately saved the club from financial ruin.
Don't get me wrong, JF has made plenty of mistakes in his time at the helm. I believe that Pete Fernaux was the footballing brains, but, unfortunately, he had to step down leaving JF to run the whole thing on his own with nobody to turn to for advice. Like the rest of us,he is GTFC through and through, but unfortunately doesn't have the financial clout to take us to the next step. We are Grimsby, nobody is going to come here waving cheque books about. The only people that would, would have had to be born here. Just remember some of the other clubs that chased the dream of a rich sugar daddy, only to fall flat on their face. (Sven at Notts County FFS).
One thing I have learned in my sixty odd years on this planet is that things never stay the same indefinitely. Just be patient, like I was waiting, watching poor Town teams for years until McMennamy turned up by chance, and we suddenly rose up. Then it was Sir Alan playing the best football I have ever seen. Our turn will come again.
KEEP THE FAITH
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I have thought that football goes in cycles but this wait is taking the pish and I wont wait any longer.TIMES UP
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I believe that Pete Fernaux was the footballing brains
Maybe, but I'm not entirely sure that's true. Mike Parker complained that JF and PF were so aligned in their views that it meant the board vote was almost a formality to go with what they want because they would vote the same way. MP was the major share holder and starting to call the shots, so PF was asked to stand down as part of the process to appease MP and get a more diverse view across the board. MP quit almost immediately even after getting his own way, which suggests to me that he didn't want to stick it out regardless and was making excuses to get away from the expensive venture that is football. Also worth noting that MP was the major shareholder and it's widely documented that he was behind the appointing of Neil Woods and the sacking of Woods was part of what led MP to stand down. Laying all the blame at one man's door for our downfall is a bit hash. Doesn't exonerate JF from his contribution to things going badly, but at least he's stuck it out when others have run as fast as they can when things didn't look so rosy.
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Maybe, but I'm not entirely sure that's true. Mike Parker complained that JF and PF were so aligned in their views that it meant the board vote was almost a formality to go with what they want because they would vote the same way. MP was the major share holder and starting to call the shots, so PF was asked to stand down as part of the process to appease MP and get a more diverse view across the board. MP quit almost immediately even after getting his own way, which suggests to me that he didn't want to stick it out regardless and was making excuses to get away from the expensive venture that is football.
Also worth noting that MP was the major shareholder and it's widely documented that he was behind the appointing of Neil Woods and the sacking of Woods was part of what led MP to stand down. Laying all the blame at one man's door for our downfall is a bit hash. Doesn't exonerate JF from his contribution to things going badly, but at least he's stuck it out when others have run as fast as they can when things didn't look so rosy.
Some interesting points but you have completely ignored that MP basically donated 1.25 million to the club and has added no debt. You have also ignored how the share issue was engineered. Mariner93 has been asking the question for years as to why Mr Fenty's money never went in to match MP as shares as agreed? This would've avoided the issue. Some of the responses on this thread smell a bit like propaganda to me. Ramadan should've never got his money back. I think if you look at the shareholding at the time their are other reasons Ramsden's bluff wasn't called and we were allowed into administration.
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