Fat boy is back

Quoted from barralad

Well I shouldn't need to spell it out but I'm only talking about the original post which I thought might be pretty obvious but I'm sick of reading counter-productive uninformed crap. Getting at the manager via the players is a p1ss poor tactic. Only on Monday there were certain elements who appear to have decided (on the basis of one mistake) that our only fit goalkeeper isn't good enough. No explanation, no evidence -nothing. I hope he has the good sense to give The Fishy a wide berth. I get there is unrest and a great deal of unhappiness with the way the club is being run and the football being played but as far as the former is concerned nothing new has been said for weeks. I might be unrealistic but I come on here looking for interesting debate about most things GTFC related. I'm merely exercising a right to say that in my view the standard has deteriorated beyond belief over the last few weeks..

Absolutely right on the button barra. I am also fed up about the ill-informed and defamatory nonsense that appears on this site. The fishy is however much like the dross on other fans forums, although there seems to be more of it on the fishy. It is a problem with society at large, so I suppose that we will have to endure reading the rubbish for some time yet, or chose to walk away and ignore the site.

Quoted from barralad

Well I shouldn't need to spell it out but I'm only talking about the original post which I thought might be pretty obvious but I'm sick of reading counter-productive uninformed crap. Getting at the manager via the players is a p1ss poor tactic. Only on Monday there were certain elements who appear to have decided (on the basis of one mistake) that our only fit goalkeeper isn't good enough. No explanation, no evidence -nothing. I hope he has the good sense to give The Fishy a wide berth. I get there is unrest and a great deal of unhappiness with the way the club is being run and the football being played but as far as the former is concerned nothing new has been said for weeks. I might be unrealistic but I come on here looking for interesting debate about most things GTFC related. I'm merely exercising a right to say that in my view the standard has deteriorated beyond belief over the last few weeks..

Not the only place standards are deteriorating - point is that it's not the players' fault that there's unrest. I think Clem's OK and the few players that I would question appear to not want to be here. The discontent is being caused by the 'we're right, you're wrong' mentality of the men upstairs - let's not forget that we were doing OK on the pitch a month ago.

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

Absolutely right on the button barra. I am also fed up about the ill-informed and defamatory nonsense that appears on this site. The fishy is however much like the dross on other fans forums, although there seems to be more of it on the fishy. It is a problem with society at large, so I suppose that we will have to endure reading the rubbish for some time yet, or chose to walk away and ignore the site.

To prove your point how many posts attack clem and how many are saying that the title and nature of abuse is completely unwarranted and unfair.

Quoted from barralad

I hope he has the good sense to give The Fishy a wide berth.

Any footballer who pays one jot of attention to something written about them on a forum is a bloody idiot.

Ought to be the first thing professional footballers are told the day when they begin their careers. Second thing would be not to say anything stupid on facebook/twitter et al.

Clement could be that creative spark we need in midfield. He really impressed me last season and only wish we could play him, Osbourne and Summerfield/Rose in a midfield three.

Welcome back Chris. Glad your out of Barrow because that place is like dystopian post nuclear apocalypse hellhole as you are likely to get to in the North of England.

Re. the original post.
I am encouraged by the overwhelming majority of responses. They affirm a good degree of commonsense
out there which tends to be what I encounter at games.
Sometimes The Fishy does make me wonder where the middle ground lies. I am totally in favour of people airing heartfelt opinions and it is obvious much is generated through incredible frustration, hurt and fear for the future. But some of the humour (sometimes taken the wrong way and sometimes mistakenly misdirected) and some of the personal comments only fuel the negativity, which we all want to dispel......It’s only how the negativity is dispelled that is up for discussion.
Incidentally, l thought Clements was half decent. He deserves a break. He owes the club for their patience and
understanding. If he works out it would be like a new signing that will cost nothing and not take funds that could be
spent elsewhere. If he doesn’t want to play for The Mighty Mariners his problem and goodbye——all common sense.
UTMM

Quoted from HistonMariner

Re. the original post.
I am encouraged by the overwhelming majority of responses. They affirm a good degree of commonsense
out there which tends to be what I encounter at games.
Sometimes The Fishy does make me wonder where the middle ground lies. I am totally in favour of people airing heartfelt opinions and it is obvious much is generated through incredible frustration, hurt and fear for the future. But some of the humour (sometimes taken the wrong way and sometimes mistakenly misdirected) and some of the personal comments only fuel the negativity, which we all want to dispel......It’s only how the negativity is dispelled that is up for discussion.
Incidentally, l thought Clements was half decent. He deserves a break. He owes the club for their patience and
understanding. If he works out it would be like a new signing that will cost nothing and not take funds that could be
spent elsewhere. If he doesn’t want to play for The Mighty Mariners his problem and goodbye——all common sense.
UTMM

Well said Histon  

Hmmm. I wonder if his return (providing he is anything like fit) might let us play a midfield 3 or try 2 holding midfielders once again?

Let's face it, we're not offering much of a threat with 4-4-2 at present so perhaps time to have another try with something different?

Quoted from barralad

Well I shouldn't need to spell it out but I'm only talking about the original post which I thought might be pretty obvious but I'm sick of reading counter-productive uninformed crap. Getting at the manager via the players is a p1ss poor tactic. Only on Monday there were certain elements who appear to have decided (on the basis of one mistake) that our only fit goalkeeper isn't good enough. No explanation, no evidence -nothing. I hope he has the good sense to give The Fishy a wide berth. I get there is unrest and a great deal of unhappiness with the way the club is being run and the football being played but as far as the former is concerned nothing new has been said for weeks. I might be unrealistic but I come on here looking for interesting debate about most things GTFC related. I'm merely exercising a right to say that in my view the standard has deteriorated beyond belief over the last few weeks..

Completely agree with the sentiment Barra....but...i think most of the hyperbole has appeared or at least significantly increased since the fans forum debacle.