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Dopleganger
January 2, 2018, 7:27pm
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I think we have all had enough of Slade and his boring tactics, lack of ability to change things around and all round boring comments pre and post match.

At what point do we boycott the games? Seems on Saturday against Accrington it began when nearly 1000 people left with 20 minutes to go.

Do we get some banners made up expressing our concerns to Fenty and the board?

Maybe we need to start the "your getting sacked in the morning" chants.

What is the point in giving him even more money to bring in even more ageing players at the end of their careers that aren't good enough?

We have young talented players that he isn't prepared to give a chance to. We are losing so what else is he going to lose by giving them a chance.

I'm sick of hearing that they aren't quite ready. How will they ever be ready if you don't give them a go.
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Findus car park before the game, if everyones talking about it then we need to do something about it.
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Yeovil's League Two game with Crawley was held up for more than 10 minutes on Monday when a drone appeared over Huish Park


Can we get a squadron of drones to drag our banner
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Just what do you want ?

What are your realistic demands ?

Its alright bleating on but just what are your expectations ?

Not saying i am happy with the current position and outlook at the club but i see little benefit from wholesale change at the moment.


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Quoted from Dopleganger
I think we have all had enough of Slade and his boring tactics, lack of ability to change things around and all round boring comments pre and post match.

At what point do we boycott the games? Seems on Saturday against Accrington it began when nearly 1000 people left with 20 minutes to go.

Do we get some banners made up expressing our concerns to Fenty and the board?

Maybe we need to start the "your getting sacked in the morning" chants.

What is the point in giving him even more money to bring in even more ageing players at the end of their careers that aren't good enough?

We have young talented players that he isn't prepared to give a chance to. We are losing so what else is he going to lose by giving them a chance.

I'm sick of hearing that they aren't quite ready. How will they ever be ready if you don't give them a go.


I'm sure the players will appreciate such distractions on the day.


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It used to be done after the game with sack the board, not that this current board gives a flying fig what the great unwashed think.


Supporting the Mighty Mariners for over 30 years, home town club is were the heart and soul is and it's great to be a part of it.

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Quoted from Dopleganger
I think we have all had enough of Slade and his boring tactics, lack of ability to change things around and all round boring comments pre and post match.

At what point do we boycott the games? Seems on Saturday against Accrington it began when nearly 1000 people left with 20 minutes to go.

Do we get some banners made up expressing our concerns to Fenty and the board?

Maybe we need to start the "your getting sacked in the morning" chants.

What is the point in giving him even more money to bring in even more ageing players at the end of their careers that aren't good enough?

We have young talented players that he isn't prepared to give a chance to. We are losing so what else is he going to lose by giving them a chance.

I'm sick of hearing that they aren't quite ready. How will they ever be ready if you don't give them a go.


What talented young players are those? If they were that good they would be in the team wouldn't they? DJ and Dembele are young, good enough and ARE in the team so I don't get your point.

The club is being poorly run by the so called board. Less than 3 weeks ago we were doing ok on the field, but we have been in leagues 4 and 5 for donkeys years whoever was manager. No good keep sacking managers unless they are really bad news (Bignot). It is the boardroom that needs addressing.  
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January 2, 2018, 9:20pm

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Uncalled for waste of time. By all means as someone once said "If you don't effing like it don't effing come"
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Quoted from oldun
Uncalled for waste of time. By all means as someone once said "If you don't effing like it don't effing come"


Whilst I agree with your sentiment, the season ticket has the feeling of a ball & chain at present.
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The fishy is full of threads about the state of the club and the minute someone mentions a show of faces to protest against how deflated the club is on and off the pitch it just gets ridiculed. We can all sit behind a screen saying this is what will happen, no you shouldn't do this etc etc but in reality we need to start proving the point by getting together as a whole and getting this club sorted out once and for all. Its declined and declined for years now and its not going to get any better is it? or shall we all carry on as normal and sooner or later it become a folded club just like most of this towns history.
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What talented young players are those? If they were that good they would be in the team wouldn't they? DJ and Dembele are young, good enough and ARE in the team so I don't get your point.

The club is being poorly run by the so called board. Less than 3 weeks ago we were doing ok on the field, but we have been in leagues 4 and 5 for donkeys years whoever was manager. No good keep sacking managers unless they are really bad news (Bignot). It is the boardroom that needs addressing.  


It isn't being very well run by the manager either.
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January 2, 2018, 10:03pm

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Quoted from OneLove
The fishy is full of threads about the state of the club and the minute someone mentions a show of faces to protest against how deflated the club is on and off the pitch it just gets ridiculed. We can all sit behind a screen saying this is what will happen, no you shouldn't do this etc etc but in reality we need to start proving the point by getting together as a whole and getting this club sorted out once and for all. Its declined and declined for years now and its not going to get any better is it? or shall we all carry on as normal and sooner or later it become a folded club just like most of this towns history.


Fenty and Co are fully aware of how the fans feel. They don’t need banners or chants to tell them.
As I said in an earlier post, the most effective form of protest is to just stay away.  Yes, it won’t be very nice for the players to come out to a crowd of 3000 or so. But in volume of noise it won’t be any quieter than at the moment.
Booing and calling for Slades Head during a game will never improve performances on the pitch. But if JF starts to get hit in the pocket he may well have his hand forced.  Social media ensures that the board get the message nowadays. Even if they refuse to accept it.


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Fenty and Co are fully aware of how the fans feel. They don’t need banners or chants to tell them.
As I said in an earlier post, the most effective form of protest is to just stay away.  Yes, it won’t be very nice for the players to come out to a crowd of 3000 or so. But in volume of noise it won’t be any quieter than at the moment.
Booing and calling for Slades Head during a game will never improve performances on the pitch. But if JF starts to get hit in the pocket he may well have his hand forced.  Social media ensures that the board get the message nowadays. Even if they refuse to accept it.


I don't think they are aware at all. The board are that pig-headed that they think that the nay-sayers are a small minority on the Fishy (and that's on very good authority). Problem is Fenty booted out Bignot, pretty unceremoniously, and replaced him with Slade with a bit of a fanfare. Unless we get into serious excrement, that's unlikely to change.
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Think they’re too self centred and idotitic to even realise what the fans think so I think some sort of prostest is needed.

Maybe in the Findus Car Park during the game instead of going in so we can boycott and protest all in one.  I really believe we need to take action to get our club back before it’s totally destroyed because I don’t think we have long left.


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I think there's an element of truth that Fenty and the Chain Rattling Accountant don't recognise the depth of feeling. However, what if Fenty does decide to jack it in and flog the club to the first chancer that comes along with a mouth full of promises and  opportunities to get us further into debt?

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Boycotting , banners and chanting is this going to improve the performance of the players out on the pitch??

They are the ones currently under performing right now. Showing very little quality , , very little desire and passion and showing very little interest!! They are the ones getting paid to play for our club but right now not many of them are actually playing!!!

Will sacking Slade improve the players currently employed by our club?? Erm no


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Quoted from MarinersOnTheUp
Think they’re too self centred and idotitic to even realise what the fans think so I think some sort of prostest is needed.

Maybe in the Findus Car Park during the game instead of going in so we can boycott and protest all in one.  I really believe we need to take action to get our club back before it’s totally destroyed because I don’t think we have long left.


Am I right in thinking the last mass protest in the car park numbered about twelve
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Protests etc are I think a total waste of our time, it will fall on deaf ears. Simply stay away from the games, away matches included, park your bum on the sofa in front of Jeff Stelling and co., much more entertaining, warmer, cheaper, in a short while Fenty will be hit hard by the lack of takings and support. Hurtful to the players I admit, but I reckon we must show our feelings by staying away.
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Quoted from Mariner Timsky
Boycotting , banners and chanting is this going to improve the performance of the players out on the pitch??

They are the ones currently under performing right now. Showing very little quality , , very little desire and passion and showing very little interest!! They are the ones getting paid to play for our club but right now not many of them are actually playing!!!

Will sacking Slade improve the players currently employed by our club?? Erm no


It just might be that the players don't want to play for Slade.
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I've said before that some of our fans seem to have a victim mentallity these days , theyre becoming professional protesters.
It's as if we are turning into scousers or something , when the gates start dropping the Board will take notice
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I've said before that some of our fans seem to have a victim mentallity these days , theyre becoming professional protesters.
It's as if we are turning into scousers or something , when the gates start dropping the Board will take notice


When gates drop? they have dropped, away support has dropped, theres not one ounce of atmosphere at games, if you've got an opinion no matter what you go voice it not sit bottling up on a sofa. Ive stopped going because of the performances, the employment of a manager who's useless, the limbo us paying loyal fans are always left in by them in that dusty boardroom, the club as a whole. None of them care in reality do they, this club is on a downward decline, even now we are back in the league since 2002 that bloke who's 'kept us out the red' has copulated this club up big time and did he not blame us paying fans for the reason he can not get anyone involved to take the club over?
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The old ways are the best you wait til the end of the game and let rip with chants of sack the board if that`s how you feel.The players however bad are clearly trying and I am loathe to have a go at them the puppet and his masters are the ones who deserve the earache.

All this could have gone away with the recent Unity Day and though large swathes of the support were disgruntled they bit lips and got behind the day only for the Club to undo any progress with several statements.
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Just a point.
A percentage of supporters who stop going will never return.
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Love the "Sack the Board" chant. As board members they would have to sack themselves!


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Love the "Sack the Board" chant. As board members they would have to sack themselves!


For all the alleged abuse that puts off other people wanting to join the board why did they all seek re-election?


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Where would the club have been if J.F. hadn't stepped in-we don't know. He was once upon a time hailed as the saviour.  not many of us would walk away and give up £2million plus. He has made mistakes and will keep making them but the guys not made of money and most likely appointed Slade with all good intentions. Is Slades contract too expensive to terminate-we don't know. Possibly J.F. regrets bringing him in but doesn't know what to do-I wouldnt,Meeting in car parks is no good. I bet 90% of those at a demonstration would go straight in to the match afterwards,especially S.T. holders.        I just hope Slade gets the message and uses his own sword to come to our rescue
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Whilst I agree with your sentiment, the season ticket has the feeling of a ball & chain at present.


I know what you mean. If I did not have one I would probably stay at home on Sat.
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Going back to the OP.

Boycott? No, the board will only think it's temporary and fans have been bullied into not going..

Banners? If it's only a handful at matches or one or two hanging off motorway bridges, they'll think it's just one or two sad individuals..

Chanting? If it's the whole ground of the 3k loyal individuals left, they'd be blind and tone deaf not to take that on board..

The board are dinosaurs if they underestimate the weight of feeling on social media. Matt Dean had over 700 messages of support on Twitter after the Fans Forum but they still went after him when the groundswell of opinion was that they were fairly and squarely in the wrong with their actions. So, even though they obviously read what's written online, they dismiss it all as just online cranks having a go no matter how valid and well constructed concerns are made. So social media protests will have little or no effect, although JF showed signs of cracking at one point before regrouping behind his God Complex and giving us fans the "straightener we deserved" at the Fans Forum, from his snooker table and beyond.

What we got is #unity, which in effect he believed was for everyone to unify behind him not a joining together of disassociated fans and a listening board of directors. I said at the time that it wouldn't last long and it hasn't. It's much more than papering over the cracks. JF's tenure at the club is smashed to pieces and the period we are going through at present is the length of time that it takes for him to realise he's got to leave for there to be any chance of improvement.

I'm guessing RS was his last throw of the dice, his grand idea to turn it all around so he can leave a legacy with his head held high, and its another big idea that's blown up in his face. The other one was Extreme Leisure and even then he's only given them a 70% backing in confidence. The only way JF can leave a positive legacy is to stop hanging on to that £2m and open the club up for a fresh start. If he's after respect and gratitude it's the only realistic card he can play. He has overseen 14 out of 22 seasons in which we've played at at our lowest level, that's out of our 140 year long history. It's a shocking statistic. That is the reason why he is being criticised so much now. Fans have been very patient with him. When he spoke to a couple of HNW individuals, it was a fallacy to use fan's criticisms of him as the reason that they were not interested. He should have been much more self-deprecating in that conversation. Any new investor would be given the same patience and time that was afforded to him and opinions would be made about their performance over a considerable and respectful period. It is he who has gone to the bottom of the well of goodwill so many times and after all this time that well has run truly dry. If he can gift the club back to the fans or someone else, he'll gain a lot of respect back. After all there's not a lot of value left if any at all. He could then revert back to the often played mantra of saving the club. In fact by being benevolent he could actually say that he saved the club twice. He might even get a few "at least you stood up and had a gos". The sooner he sees that the problem is at the very top the better. The better for the club, the better for the fans and the better for himself.

I'm not advocating anyone missing a game but the only value that JF measures anything in is pounds, shillings and pence. How long it takes for hm to start panicking about taking us into non league again is the key. With gates of around 3k and less, which will become the norm before long, coupled with the lack of ability or football nous in the boardroom, there will be only one way for the club, and that is down. It won't be a boycott, banners or chanting that will hit home, it will be the natural human reaction of apathy, and that is already setting in fast. We are currently in the last throes of online protest before it accelerates. We're at a point where only radical change will turn the tide and only apathy will force that to happen..
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For all the alleged abuse that puts off other people wanting to join the board why did they all seek re-election?


Exfuckingactly



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Going back to the OP.

Boycott? No, the board will only think it's temporary and fans have been bullied into not going..

Banners? If it's only a handful at matches or one or two hanging off motorway bridges, they'll think it's just one or two sad individuals..

Chanting? If it's the whole ground of the 3k loyal individuals left, they'd be blind not to take that on board..

The board are dinosaurs if they underestimate the weight of feeling on social media. Matt Dean had over 700 messages of support on Twitter after the Fans Forum but they still went after him when the groundswell of opinion was that they were fairly and squarely in the wrong with their actions. So, even though they obviously read what's written online, they dismiss it all as just online cranks having a go no matter how valid and well constructed concerns are made. So social media protests will have little or no effect, although JF showed signs of cracking at one point before regrouping behind his God Complex and giving us fans the "straightener we deserved at the Fans Forum, from his snooker table and beyond.

What we got is #unity, which in effect he believed was for everyone to unify behind him not a joining together of disassociated fans and a listening board of directors. I said at the time that it wouldn't last long and it hasn't. It's much more than papering over the cracks. JF's tenure at the club is smashed to pieces and the period we are going through at present is the length of time that it takes for him to realise he's got to leave for there to be any chance of improvement.

I'm guessing RS was his last throw of the dice, his grand idea to turn it all around so he can leave a legacy with his head held high, and another big idea blown up in his face. The other one was Extreme Leisure and even that he's only given them a 70% backing in confidence. The only way JF can leave a positive legacy is to stop hanging on to that £2m and open the club up for a fresh start. If he's after respect and gratitude it's the only card he can play. He has overseen 14 out of 22 seasons in which we've played at at our lowest level. That is the reason why he is being criticised so much now. Fans have been very patient with him. When he spoke to a couple of HNW, it was a fallacy to use fan's criticisms of him as the reason that they were not interested. Any new investor would be given the same patience and time that was afforded to him and opinions would be made about their performance over a considerable amount of time. It is he who has gone to the bottom of the well of goodwill so many times and after all this time that well is well and truly dry. If he can gift the club back to the fans or someone else, he'll gain a lot of respect back. He could then revert back to the often played mantra of saving the club. In fact by being benevolent he could actually say that he saved the club twice. He might even get a few "at least you stood up and had a gos". The sooner he sees that the problem is at the very top the better. The better for the club, the better for the fans and the better for himself.

I'm not advocating anyone missing a game but the only method that JF measures anything with is pounds, shillings and pence. How long it takes for hm to start panicking about taking us into non league again is the key. With gates of around 3k and less, which will become the norm before long, coupled with the lack of ability in the boardroom, there will be only one way for the club and that is down. It won't be a boycott, banners or chanting that will hit home, it will be the natural human reaction of apathy, and that is already setting in fast. We are in the last throes of online protest now before it accelerates. We're at a point where only radical change will turn the tide and only apathy will force that to happen..



JF had done the hard yards at the fans forum and got a lot of people who were against him at least prepared to give the Unity a go then *BOOM* the Matt Dean thing kicked off and he was worse off than he started. JF needs to look at that and realise the error of his ways had that whole thing been conducted behind closed doors with him RS and MD he could still have said what he did to MD but people like me would have been none the wiser and that`s how it should be.
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If he keeps being slade then even fenty will have had enough by 2019.


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JF had done the hard yards at the fans forum and got a lot of people who were against him at least prepared to give the Unity a go then *BOOM* the Matt Dean thing kicked off and he was worse off than he started. JF needs to look at that and realise the error of his ways had that whole thing been conducted behind closed doors with him RS and MD he could still have said what he did to MD but people like me would have been none the wiser and that`s how it should be.


Its ego I am afraid Mickey. An ego that has got in the way of everything, but of course people with massive egos never see it. They are blind to the errors of their ways, and when they ever do get help they get similar people around them, but without relinquishing any decisions.

Fenty has fallen out with everyone who has tried to have a positive impact, and has alienated anyone who has dared to criticise. It will remain like that till he steps down, which will have to happen sometime.
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Disgusting Hillsborough reference.


Not sure I see it that way, but comments noted and will monitor.


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It just might be that the players don't want to play for Slade.


Then sack every single one who is proven to have that attitude because they're kicking us fans, the paying customers right in the balderdash.
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Not sure I see it that way, but comments noted and will monitor.


Disgusting accusation to throw at grimps too.
You might want to monitor how many red crosses the accuser got for it as well.
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Where would the club have been if J.F. hadn't stepped in-we don't know. He was once upon a time hailed as the saviour.  not many of us would walk away and give up £2million plus. He has made mistakes and will keep making them but the guys not made of money and most likely appointed Slade with all good intentions. Is Slades contract too expensive to terminate-we don't know. Possibly J.F. regrets bringing him in but doesn't know what to do-I wouldnt,Meeting in car parks is no good. I bet 90% of those at a demonstration would go straight in to the match afterwards,especially S.T. holders.        I just hope Slade gets the message and uses his own sword to come to our rescue


I am currently not very well and am taking a few drugs to get over my problem. I didn't think they were very strong, but they must be as I have just read a post by golfer that makes total and utter sense.

NURSE, reduce my dosage!!
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Not sure I see it that way, but comments noted and will monitor.


I didn't see it either
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Jf once stated in a rather smug way that he is just the custodian of the club and that it is the fans who will be around long after he has gone ... I say take him on his word and get your club back ...... just stop going to the games its that simple . As above posters have stated its all about money ... you have the solution but I just know most will just carry on because they are worried what might happen


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If there ever is a boycott can I suggest setting aside some of the money saved on tickets ready for a fighting fund like Orient fns had.


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Indeed


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Is my sense of irony over developed or can anyone else see something strange in someone hiding behind a keyboard urging other people not to hide behind a keyboard and support a boycott.
For the record I will never support a boycott of a league or proper cup match that GTFC are playing in. It might not be great at the moment on and off the pitch but I've endured worse in my 50 years of watching Town (68/69, the Mike Lyons year morphing into the Bobby Roberts disaster and more recently the Bath City whole season culminating in our relegation) and not at any point did I feel that a boycott would help. Whoever the XI are that turn out in the black and white need the support of the fans. In my mind the alternative will create a self-fulfilling prophecy of doom.


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Is my sense of irony over developed or can anyone else see something strange in someone hiding behind a keyboard urging other people not to hide behind a keyboard and support a boycott.
For the record I will never support a boycott of a league or proper cup match that GTFC are playing in. It might not be great at the moment on and off the pitch but I've endured worse in my 50 years of watching Town (68/69, the Mike Lyons year morphing into the Bobby Roberts disaster and more recently the Bath City whole season culminating in our relegation) and not at any point did I feel that a boycott would help. Whoever the XI are that turn out in the black and white need the support of the fans. In my mind the alternative will create a self-fulfilling prophecy of doom.


I'm not at the boycott stage or even sure it is the right thing, but whether it's a boycott or just simply a case of people saying, 'I'm not prepared to put up with any more of that shite, especially with that board', the numbers look to be going down. So a slow death or a quick one. I guess people are struggling to find ways to make their voices heard (and heard properly not just dismissed as a bunch of whingers on social media). I think it's inevitable that support will ebb away unless there's some significant change. Civvy's comments illustrate for me how things are going, and he's far from being a radical Young Turk.

I'm sure some of the edge will be taken off with a couple of good results, but that'll only be temporary.


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Irony ??? . It's not that at all it is just people typing away to point out how easy it is to affect things .. Stop going to games ..... that doesn't mean I want it to happen it just means its the only affective way to force a change , if that is what a supporter desires


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Rather than being negative (boycotts, negative chants etc), how about making a positive protest?
I went to a match yesterday - Sydney FC vs Newcastle and Sydney have a group of home supporters called The Cove who congregate at one end and sing and chant from the first minute to the last. A bit like our away support. Fantastic atmosphere created by a few hundred fans.
Why can’t we get out of our comfort zone at BP and treat the home game like an away game and challenge the management and the team to rise to our level as supporters- just fill the Pontoon stand and yell like mad for 90mins - supporting the team, which is essentially our role, rather than just whingeing.
I’d also challenge the club to reward the away supporters - eg anyone with a ticket from the last away game gets a discount or free pint or a pie or whatever if they are in the Pontoon.
We talk about making BP a fortress, or say it should be, but then we treat it like a garden party.
Let’s do our job as supporters as well as we can (more than just buying a ticket)
I wish I could be more involved but I’ve booked my flights for my next visit an will be at Swindon away, Notts at home, Forest Fungus away and all the play offs ( if we don’t get automatic promotion)
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I have missed the last few games deliberately and feel really good about it. Always left wetherspoons happy. Good product good facilties and saved money to boot. The games over the festive period. Used to be the highlight of the year. Not any more thanks to fenty and slade
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Where would the club have been if J.F. hadn't stepped in-we don't know. He was once upon a time hailed as the saviour.  not many of us would walk away and give up £2million plus. He has made mistakes and will keep making them but the guys not made of money and most likely appointed Slade with all good intentions. Is Slades contract too expensive to terminate-we don't know. Possibly J.F. regrets bringing him in but doesn't know what to do-I wouldnt,Meeting in car parks is no good. I bet 90% of those at a demonstration would go straight in to the match afterwards,especially S.T. holders.        I just hope Slade gets the message and uses his own sword to come to our rescue


FFS


In his three stints as Grimsby Town manager spanning over 10 years the club was never relegated and he also guided them to three promotions.
Only 14 managers have reached 1,000 matches in charge of a Football League team by 1998 and Buckley is one of them.
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Is my sense of irony over developed or can anyone else see something strange in someone hiding behind a keyboard urging other people not to hide behind a keyboard and support a boycott.
For the record I will never support a boycott of a league or proper cup match that GTFC are playing in. It might not be great at the moment on and off the pitch but I've endured worse in my 50 years of watching Town (68/69, the Mike Lyons year morphing into the Bobby Roberts disaster and more recently the Bath City whole season culminating in our relegation) and not at any point did I feel that a boycott would help. Whoever the XI are that turn out in the black and white need the support of the fans. In my mind the alternative will create a self-fulfilling prophecy of doom.


And unfortunately my friend, I and the group I go with wasn't about 50 years to witness this but if your happy with sitting on the fence and paying money to a deflated club thats going knowhere then thats your choice. I for one like many others want the best for this club, we've gone through 15 managers most of which where ex players, since the realm of fenty and co, plummeted from championship to out-the-league-ship and now back in the league playing worse football than when woods was in charge, a new ground thats been in the pipeline since the 90's, absolute no desire what so ever or ambition to say 'yes in five years time we will be a championship side again', asks the fans to pay the tax bill, never know where our money goes, blames the fans for people not wanting to come on board and when finally we do get people on board they are quickly exited out the back door because they aren't 'yes' men. And now we are stuck in a rut, a manager who plays crap football with a squad playing like journeymen. People will disgaree with my views but for the future and new generation of fans its not attratcive and worries me that it won't be long before its a closed book. Now that my friend is years of bottled up anger and now its a got to the point where enough is enough!
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Who would be a football non chairman. Mr Fenty complains about the abuse he gets, the fishy at the ground etc, well this is from a club our size, just imagine the abuse say the Sunderland non chairman is getting. Please note this s not of defence of Mr Fenty at all. Also if any of us won say £100 million on the old lottery and bought Mr Fenty out, would we be happy with abuse etc if the team were on a bad run.
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And unfortunately my friend, I and the group I go with wasn't about 50 years to witness this but if your happy with sitting on the fence and paying money to a deflated club thats going knowhere then thats your choice. I for one like many others want the best for this club, we've gone through 15 managers most of which where ex players, since the realm of fenty and co, plummeted from championship to out-the-league-ship and now back in the league playing worse football than when woods was in charge, a new ground thats been in the pipeline since the 90's, absolute no desire what so ever or ambition to say 'yes in five years time we will be a championship side again', asks the fans to pay the tax bill, never know where our money goes, blames the fans for people not wanting to come on board and when finally we do get people on board they are quickly exited out the back door because they aren't 'yes' men. And now we are stuck in a rut, a manager who plays crap football with a squad playing like journeymen. People will disgaree with my views but for the future and new generation of fans its not attratcive and worries me that it won't be long before its a closed book. Now that my friend is years of bottled up anger and now its a got to the point where enough is enough!


You make a good point at the forum it was suggested by either JF or SM possibly both that the club could not attract new investment largely due to the toxic supporters and the abuse they dish out.However to my knowledge the last 3 major board departures have been caused from internal disputes Carr,Parker and Mullen? Most fans want to attend every game BUT given the fayre on offer a lot are saying no thanks and sadly this Saturday that will include me.
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And unfortunately my friend, I and the group I go with wasn't about 50 years to witness this but if your happy with sitting on the fence and paying money to a deflated club thats going knowhere then thats your choice. I for one like many others want the best for this club, we've gone through 15 managers most of which where ex players, since the realm of fenty and co, plummeted from championship to out-the-league-ship and now back in the league playing worse football than when woods was in charge, a new ground thats been in the pipeline since the 90's, absolute no desire what so ever or ambition to say 'yes in five years time we will be a championship side again', asks the fans to pay the tax bill, never know where our money goes, blames the fans for people not wanting to come on board and when finally we do get people on board they are quickly exited out the back door because they aren't 'yes' men. And now we are stuck in a rut, a manager who plays crap football with a squad playing like journeymen. People will disgaree with my views but for the future and new generation of fans its not attratcive and worries me that it won't be long before its a closed book. Now that my friend is years of bottled up anger and now its a got to the point where enough is enough!


Well "my friend" I hope you've got enough left of your tether to step in if and when you get your wish. I don't think I'll be putting any money on you being around to help deal with the fallout.
If you think that the current situation is as bad on the pitch as the relegation season then might I respectfully suggest that you get some perspective from somewhere.  


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Well "my friend" I hope you've got enough left of your tether to step in if and when you get your wish. I don't think I'll be putting any money on you being around to help deal with the fallout.
If you think that the current situation is as bad on the pitch as the relegation season then might I respectfully suggest that you get some perspective from somewhere.  


This is not a great side barra but it`s good enough to stay in the division the effort at least is usually there and the side that went down had no effort.The lack of creativity,spark,guile and above all goals are the problem on the pitch for joe public and it`s compounded when the Manger seems happy to lose 2-0 without troubling the opposition keeper.The problems off the pitch are well versed and clearly it`s at a point where fans have had enough and are now going to do something about it be that attending and calling for heads or staying away.
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Well "my friend" I hope you've got enough left of your tether to step in if and when you get your wish. I don't think I'll be putting any money on you being around to help deal with the fallout.
If you think that the current situation is as bad on the pitch as the relegation season then might I respectfully suggest that you get some perspective from somewhere.  


Ive think I've done a good share of helping the club out in me life and not too long ago raising some capital for our youth system which never gets a look in. Im grimsby through and through, thick and thin and all that but its times like this we need to step back and have a good look at the club in a whole. Its deteriorating and it will most definitely come to a halt if fenty and co are to continue being involved, its clear and simple.
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Support the team, sack the board.

I think we should be getting behind the team in the ground. I do however think vocal opposition to the board is warranted.
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Support the team, sack the board.

I think we should be getting behind the team in the ground. I do however think vocal opposition to the board is warranted.


Succinctly put and I do agree with that. It is our club after all said and done, and the board have had a good run at it and delivered very little, apart from survival when things were looking dodgy. Everybody respects that, but you would get short thrift in any other sphere if your only limited achievement was 16 years ago.

The board needs to feel our ire; to be made aware that treading water is no longer an option and to get their fingers out on and off the field.

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Gaffer, in that scenario I think I could tolerate abuse from the scrotes on the Fishy and Twitter. 😀


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Support the club through thin and thin
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Support the club through thin and thin thiner


Corrected for you  



Supporting the Mighty Mariners for over 30 years, home town club is were the heart and soul is and it's great to be a part of it.

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This club is going nowhere fast under Slade and indeed Fenty.  Although a season ticket holder, I don't think I will bother going on Saturday, because in over 40 years of supporting Town through thick and thin, this is the worst team I have ever seen..... simple as.   FFS, even when we got relegated we even had two or three decent players in the team, who do we have this season ???  The home games with the exception of Swindon, have been dreadful this season.  Boring useless, Slade hoofball, who the flying f**k wants to watch this week in week out.  Any other manager would have been shown the door by now for these displays, but for some reason The deluded Board want to stick with Coco The Clown for the rest of the season.  I personally don't think this club will ever get going whilst the current Board are in place, they treat the fans like crap and just take our money and offer NO entertainment or hope back in return.  The best thing that could happen is for a significant percentage of Town fans to miss a game or two, this is the only message that the club will understand.  Atrocious crowds and zero morale will always shift a useless manager, and lets face it, Slade is pretty clueless and useless as a fooball manager.  How the hell does this club keeping taking one step forward and three back.  We have brilliant fans and a great love of this club in our proud Town of Grimsby, why don't the Board share our passion for the club.....

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Succinctly put and I do agree with that. It is our club after all said and done, and the board have had a good run at it and delivered very little, apart from survival when things were looking dodgy. Everybody respects that, but you would get short thrift in any other sphere if your only limited achievement was 16 years ago.

The board needs to feel our ire; to be made aware that treading water is no longer an option and to get their fingers out on and off the field.



Don't you think the board already know this If Fenty gets his money back he will be out of here like a shot he even said that not in so many words at the forum and that other leary pillock left everyone in no mind what he thinks of us.

Fenty will not budge whilst he as millions invested end of.



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Support the team, sack the board.

I think we should be getting behind the team in the ground. I do however think vocal opposition to the board is warranted.


Agree with this. At the very least it might bruise a few people's egos which is all they really seem to care about.
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If you want a new ground the last thing you need to do is hound out JF or even any other board member. No matter what they have the club’s future at heart. No body else wants to come forward so we have to stick with what we have. They are not as uncaring as many think. It’s always the case that those at the top in whatever walk of life get all the criticism.  
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If you want a new ground the last thing you need to do is hound out JF or even any other board member. No matter what they have the club’s future at heart. No body else wants to come forward so we have to stick with what we have. They are not as uncaring as many think. It’s always the case that those at the top in whatever walk of life get all the criticism.  


I’m certain other people did come forward didn’t they ? As for not caring I wouldn’t question that but to actually deliver it I’m afraid I can’t see it , this isn’t skateboarding and I’ve no confidence in extreme and none in Fenty ... really hope they prove me wrong
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If you want a new ground the last thing you need to do is hound out JF or even any other board member. No matter what they have the club’s future at heart. No body else wants to come forward so we have to stick with what we have. They are not as uncaring as many think. It’s always the case that those at the top in whatever walk of life get all the criticism.  


Maybe but never lose sight of the fact that this is the only way JF will get his money back as his shares are not worth what he paid for them.


"Crombie you would have got to that if you weren't such a fat ba%$@rd" - George Kerr, inspiration from the dug out 70s style  
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I think JF could actually reverse this situation. After all, he does have Town at Heart, even if sometimes strangled by his benign loans.

Firstly, I think he needs to get shot of Slade as this brand of football is absolutely appalling to watch. If a restaurant kept serving crap food, how often would you return??!!

Same last time he was here, Football was truly awful!!

I do fear for the situation though as I notice that Mills/Dembele and Jones all nursing injuries!! Really? Or on the verge of signing for someone else? I reckon PH will come in for Zak and the other two, maybe Scunny.

We have to be careful what we wish for as JF may be starting to recover some of his cash through releasing these players and then decide to jump ship!!

He’s got a few managerial decisions wrong and the PR IS woeful but he is the only one who has kept us afloat -and he is also a fan just like you and I.

Come on Jon, start Operation Recovery and let Slade go, before you lose the fans.

I’m hoping that we haven’t signed anybody because he is waiting to see how we get on tomorrow before releasing a kitty.

Hopefully to a New Manager!!!!
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