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barralad
January 3, 2018, 11:42pm
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Is my sense of irony over developed or can anyone else see something strange in someone hiding behind a keyboard urging other people not to hide behind a keyboard and support a boycott.
For the record I will never support a boycott of a league or proper cup match that GTFC are playing in. It might not be great at the moment on and off the pitch but I've endured worse in my 50 years of watching Town (68/69, the Mike Lyons year morphing into the Bobby Roberts disaster and more recently the Bath City whole season culminating in our relegation) and not at any point did I feel that a boycott would help. Whoever the XI are that turn out in the black and white need the support of the fans. In my mind the alternative will create a self-fulfilling prophecy of doom.


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Is my sense of irony over developed or can anyone else see something strange in someone hiding behind a keyboard urging other people not to hide behind a keyboard and support a boycott.
For the record I will never support a boycott of a league or proper cup match that GTFC are playing in. It might not be great at the moment on and off the pitch but I've endured worse in my 50 years of watching Town (68/69, the Mike Lyons year morphing into the Bobby Roberts disaster and more recently the Bath City whole season culminating in our relegation) and not at any point did I feel that a boycott would help. Whoever the XI are that turn out in the black and white need the support of the fans. In my mind the alternative will create a self-fulfilling prophecy of doom.


I'm not at the boycott stage or even sure it is the right thing, but whether it's a boycott or just simply a case of people saying, 'I'm not prepared to put up with any more of that shite, especially with that board', the numbers look to be going down. So a slow death or a quick one. I guess people are struggling to find ways to make their voices heard (and heard properly not just dismissed as a bunch of whingers on social media). I think it's inevitable that support will ebb away unless there's some significant change. Civvy's comments illustrate for me how things are going, and he's far from being a radical Young Turk.

I'm sure some of the edge will be taken off with a couple of good results, but that'll only be temporary.


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Irony ??? . It's not that at all it is just people typing away to point out how easy it is to affect things .. Stop going to games ..... that doesn't mean I want it to happen it just means its the only affective way to force a change , if that is what a supporter desires


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Rather than being negative (boycotts, negative chants etc), how about making a positive protest?
I went to a match yesterday - Sydney FC vs Newcastle and Sydney have a group of home supporters called The Cove who congregate at one end and sing and chant from the first minute to the last. A bit like our away support. Fantastic atmosphere created by a few hundred fans.
Why can’t we get out of our comfort zone at BP and treat the home game like an away game and challenge the management and the team to rise to our level as supporters- just fill the Pontoon stand and yell like mad for 90mins - supporting the team, which is essentially our role, rather than just whingeing.
I’d also challenge the club to reward the away supporters - eg anyone with a ticket from the last away game gets a discount or free pint or a pie or whatever if they are in the Pontoon.
We talk about making BP a fortress, or say it should be, but then we treat it like a garden party.
Let’s do our job as supporters as well as we can (more than just buying a ticket)
I wish I could be more involved but I’ve booked my flights for my next visit an will be at Swindon away, Notts at home, Forest Fungus away and all the play offs ( if we don’t get automatic promotion)
UTFM
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I have missed the last few games deliberately and feel really good about it. Always left wetherspoons happy. Good product good facilties and saved money to boot. The games over the festive period. Used to be the highlight of the year. Not any more thanks to fenty and slade
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Where would the club have been if J.F. hadn't stepped in-we don't know. He was once upon a time hailed as the saviour.  not many of us would walk away and give up £2million plus. He has made mistakes and will keep making them but the guys not made of money and most likely appointed Slade with all good intentions. Is Slades contract too expensive to terminate-we don't know. Possibly J.F. regrets bringing him in but doesn't know what to do-I wouldnt,Meeting in car parks is no good. I bet 90% of those at a demonstration would go straight in to the match afterwards,especially S.T. holders.        I just hope Slade gets the message and uses his own sword to come to our rescue


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Is my sense of irony over developed or can anyone else see something strange in someone hiding behind a keyboard urging other people not to hide behind a keyboard and support a boycott.
For the record I will never support a boycott of a league or proper cup match that GTFC are playing in. It might not be great at the moment on and off the pitch but I've endured worse in my 50 years of watching Town (68/69, the Mike Lyons year morphing into the Bobby Roberts disaster and more recently the Bath City whole season culminating in our relegation) and not at any point did I feel that a boycott would help. Whoever the XI are that turn out in the black and white need the support of the fans. In my mind the alternative will create a self-fulfilling prophecy of doom.


And unfortunately my friend, I and the group I go with wasn't about 50 years to witness this but if your happy with sitting on the fence and paying money to a deflated club thats going knowhere then thats your choice. I for one like many others want the best for this club, we've gone through 15 managers most of which where ex players, since the realm of fenty and co, plummeted from championship to out-the-league-ship and now back in the league playing worse football than when woods was in charge, a new ground thats been in the pipeline since the 90's, absolute no desire what so ever or ambition to say 'yes in five years time we will be a championship side again', asks the fans to pay the tax bill, never know where our money goes, blames the fans for people not wanting to come on board and when finally we do get people on board they are quickly exited out the back door because they aren't 'yes' men. And now we are stuck in a rut, a manager who plays crap football with a squad playing like journeymen. People will disgaree with my views but for the future and new generation of fans its not attratcive and worries me that it won't be long before its a closed book. Now that my friend is years of bottled up anger and now its a got to the point where enough is enough!
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Who would be a football non chairman. Mr Fenty complains about the abuse he gets, the fishy at the ground etc, well this is from a club our size, just imagine the abuse say the Sunderland non chairman is getting. Please note this s not of defence of Mr Fenty at all. Also if any of us won say £100 million on the old lottery and bought Mr Fenty out, would we be happy with abuse etc if the team were on a bad run.
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And unfortunately my friend, I and the group I go with wasn't about 50 years to witness this but if your happy with sitting on the fence and paying money to a deflated club thats going knowhere then thats your choice. I for one like many others want the best for this club, we've gone through 15 managers most of which where ex players, since the realm of fenty and co, plummeted from championship to out-the-league-ship and now back in the league playing worse football than when woods was in charge, a new ground thats been in the pipeline since the 90's, absolute no desire what so ever or ambition to say 'yes in five years time we will be a championship side again', asks the fans to pay the tax bill, never know where our money goes, blames the fans for people not wanting to come on board and when finally we do get people on board they are quickly exited out the back door because they aren't 'yes' men. And now we are stuck in a rut, a manager who plays crap football with a squad playing like journeymen. People will disgaree with my views but for the future and new generation of fans its not attratcive and worries me that it won't be long before its a closed book. Now that my friend is years of bottled up anger and now its a got to the point where enough is enough!


You make a good point at the forum it was suggested by either JF or SM possibly both that the club could not attract new investment largely due to the toxic supporters and the abuse they dish out.However to my knowledge the last 3 major board departures have been caused from internal disputes Carr,Parker and Mullen? Most fans want to attend every game BUT given the fayre on offer a lot are saying no thanks and sadly this Saturday that will include me.
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And unfortunately my friend, I and the group I go with wasn't about 50 years to witness this but if your happy with sitting on the fence and paying money to a deflated club thats going knowhere then thats your choice. I for one like many others want the best for this club, we've gone through 15 managers most of which where ex players, since the realm of fenty and co, plummeted from championship to out-the-league-ship and now back in the league playing worse football than when woods was in charge, a new ground thats been in the pipeline since the 90's, absolute no desire what so ever or ambition to say 'yes in five years time we will be a championship side again', asks the fans to pay the tax bill, never know where our money goes, blames the fans for people not wanting to come on board and when finally we do get people on board they are quickly exited out the back door because they aren't 'yes' men. And now we are stuck in a rut, a manager who plays crap football with a squad playing like journeymen. People will disgaree with my views but for the future and new generation of fans its not attratcive and worries me that it won't be long before its a closed book. Now that my friend is years of bottled up anger and now its a got to the point where enough is enough!


Well "my friend" I hope you've got enough left of your tether to step in if and when you get your wish. I don't think I'll be putting any money on you being around to help deal with the fallout.
If you think that the current situation is as bad on the pitch as the relegation season then might I respectfully suggest that you get some perspective from somewhere.  


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