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OneLove
January 3, 2018, 7:18am
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I've said before that some of our fans seem to have a victim mentallity these days , theyre becoming professional protesters.
It's as if we are turning into scousers or something , when the gates start dropping the Board will take notice


When gates drop? they have dropped, away support has dropped, theres not one ounce of atmosphere at games, if you've got an opinion no matter what you go voice it not sit bottling up on a sofa. Ive stopped going because of the performances, the employment of a manager who's useless, the limbo us paying loyal fans are always left in by them in that dusty boardroom, the club as a whole. None of them care in reality do they, this club is on a downward decline, even now we are back in the league since 2002 that bloke who's 'kept us out the red' has copulated this club up big time and did he not blame us paying fans for the reason he can not get anyone involved to take the club over?
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The old ways are the best you wait til the end of the game and let rip with chants of sack the board if that`s how you feel.The players however bad are clearly trying and I am loathe to have a go at them the puppet and his masters are the ones who deserve the earache.

All this could have gone away with the recent Unity Day and though large swathes of the support were disgruntled they bit lips and got behind the day only for the Club to undo any progress with several statements.
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Just a point.
A percentage of supporters who stop going will never return.
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Love the "Sack the Board" chant. As board members they would have to sack themselves!


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Love the "Sack the Board" chant. As board members they would have to sack themselves!


For all the alleged abuse that puts off other people wanting to join the board why did they all seek re-election?


Supporting the Mighty Mariners for over 30 years, home town club is were the heart and soul is and it's great to be a part of it.

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Where would the club have been if J.F. hadn't stepped in-we don't know. He was once upon a time hailed as the saviour.  not many of us would walk away and give up £2million plus. He has made mistakes and will keep making them but the guys not made of money and most likely appointed Slade with all good intentions. Is Slades contract too expensive to terminate-we don't know. Possibly J.F. regrets bringing him in but doesn't know what to do-I wouldnt,Meeting in car parks is no good. I bet 90% of those at a demonstration would go straight in to the match afterwards,especially S.T. holders.        I just hope Slade gets the message and uses his own sword to come to our rescue
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Whilst I agree with your sentiment, the season ticket has the feeling of a ball & chain at present.


I know what you mean. If I did not have one I would probably stay at home on Sat.
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Going back to the OP.

Boycott? No, the board will only think it's temporary and fans have been bullied into not going..

Banners? If it's only a handful at matches or one or two hanging off motorway bridges, they'll think it's just one or two sad individuals..

Chanting? If it's the whole ground of the 3k loyal individuals left, they'd be blind and tone deaf not to take that on board..

The board are dinosaurs if they underestimate the weight of feeling on social media. Matt Dean had over 700 messages of support on Twitter after the Fans Forum but they still went after him when the groundswell of opinion was that they were fairly and squarely in the wrong with their actions. So, even though they obviously read what's written online, they dismiss it all as just online cranks having a go no matter how valid and well constructed concerns are made. So social media protests will have little or no effect, although JF showed signs of cracking at one point before regrouping behind his God Complex and giving us fans the "straightener we deserved" at the Fans Forum, from his snooker table and beyond.

What we got is #unity, which in effect he believed was for everyone to unify behind him not a joining together of disassociated fans and a listening board of directors. I said at the time that it wouldn't last long and it hasn't. It's much more than papering over the cracks. JF's tenure at the club is smashed to pieces and the period we are going through at present is the length of time that it takes for him to realise he's got to leave for there to be any chance of improvement.

I'm guessing RS was his last throw of the dice, his grand idea to turn it all around so he can leave a legacy with his head held high, and its another big idea that's blown up in his face. The other one was Extreme Leisure and even then he's only given them a 70% backing in confidence. The only way JF can leave a positive legacy is to stop hanging on to that £2m and open the club up for a fresh start. If he's after respect and gratitude it's the only realistic card he can play. He has overseen 14 out of 22 seasons in which we've played at at our lowest level, that's out of our 140 year long history. It's a shocking statistic. That is the reason why he is being criticised so much now. Fans have been very patient with him. When he spoke to a couple of HNW individuals, it was a fallacy to use fan's criticisms of him as the reason that they were not interested. He should have been much more self-deprecating in that conversation. Any new investor would be given the same patience and time that was afforded to him and opinions would be made about their performance over a considerable and respectful period. It is he who has gone to the bottom of the well of goodwill so many times and after all this time that well has run truly dry. If he can gift the club back to the fans or someone else, he'll gain a lot of respect back. After all there's not a lot of value left if any at all. He could then revert back to the often played mantra of saving the club. In fact by being benevolent he could actually say that he saved the club twice. He might even get a few "at least you stood up and had a gos". The sooner he sees that the problem is at the very top the better. The better for the club, the better for the fans and the better for himself.

I'm not advocating anyone missing a game but the only value that JF measures anything in is pounds, shillings and pence. How long it takes for hm to start panicking about taking us into non league again is the key. With gates of around 3k and less, which will become the norm before long, coupled with the lack of ability or football nous in the boardroom, there will be only one way for the club, and that is down. It won't be a boycott, banners or chanting that will hit home, it will be the natural human reaction of apathy, and that is already setting in fast. We are currently in the last throes of online protest before it accelerates. We're at a point where only radical change will turn the tide and only apathy will force that to happen..
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For all the alleged abuse that puts off other people wanting to join the board why did they all seek re-election?


Exfuckingactly



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Going back to the OP.

Boycott? No, the board will only think it's temporary and fans have been bullied into not going..

Banners? If it's only a handful at matches or one or two hanging off motorway bridges, they'll think it's just one or two sad individuals..

Chanting? If it's the whole ground of the 3k loyal individuals left, they'd be blind not to take that on board..

The board are dinosaurs if they underestimate the weight of feeling on social media. Matt Dean had over 700 messages of support on Twitter after the Fans Forum but they still went after him when the groundswell of opinion was that they were fairly and squarely in the wrong with their actions. So, even though they obviously read what's written online, they dismiss it all as just online cranks having a go no matter how valid and well constructed concerns are made. So social media protests will have little or no effect, although JF showed signs of cracking at one point before regrouping behind his God Complex and giving us fans the "straightener we deserved at the Fans Forum, from his snooker table and beyond.

What we got is #unity, which in effect he believed was for everyone to unify behind him not a joining together of disassociated fans and a listening board of directors. I said at the time that it wouldn't last long and it hasn't. It's much more than papering over the cracks. JF's tenure at the club is smashed to pieces and the period we are going through at present is the length of time that it takes for him to realise he's got to leave for there to be any chance of improvement.

I'm guessing RS was his last throw of the dice, his grand idea to turn it all around so he can leave a legacy with his head held high, and another big idea blown up in his face. The other one was Extreme Leisure and even that he's only given them a 70% backing in confidence. The only way JF can leave a positive legacy is to stop hanging on to that £2m and open the club up for a fresh start. If he's after respect and gratitude it's the only card he can play. He has overseen 14 out of 22 seasons in which we've played at at our lowest level. That is the reason why he is being criticised so much now. Fans have been very patient with him. When he spoke to a couple of HNW, it was a fallacy to use fan's criticisms of him as the reason that they were not interested. Any new investor would be given the same patience and time that was afforded to him and opinions would be made about their performance over a considerable amount of time. It is he who has gone to the bottom of the well of goodwill so many times and after all this time that well is well and truly dry. If he can gift the club back to the fans or someone else, he'll gain a lot of respect back. He could then revert back to the often played mantra of saving the club. In fact by being benevolent he could actually say that he saved the club twice. He might even get a few "at least you stood up and had a gos". The sooner he sees that the problem is at the very top the better. The better for the club, the better for the fans and the better for himself.

I'm not advocating anyone missing a game but the only method that JF measures anything with is pounds, shillings and pence. How long it takes for hm to start panicking about taking us into non league again is the key. With gates of around 3k and less, which will become the norm before long, coupled with the lack of ability in the boardroom, there will be only one way for the club and that is down. It won't be a boycott, banners or chanting that will hit home, it will be the natural human reaction of apathy, and that is already setting in fast. We are in the last throes of online protest now before it accelerates. We're at a point where only radical change will turn the tide and only apathy will force that to happen..



JF had done the hard yards at the fans forum and got a lot of people who were against him at least prepared to give the Unity a go then *BOOM* the Matt Dean thing kicked off and he was worse off than he started. JF needs to look at that and realise the error of his ways had that whole thing been conducted behind closed doors with him RS and MD he could still have said what he did to MD but people like me would have been none the wiser and that`s how it should be.
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