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AndyMariner
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Quoted from Cloudy
Mike Parker has absolutely NO interest whatsoever and that is not down to the shares he gifted to the Trust in any way


That's fair enough, it was just a thought if he was approached by the Trust with a structured plan then I didn't know if he could've been tempted to invest. Pure speculation on my part, plus I suppose it doesn't solve the issue of the club being dependent on one man's finances.
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What are the reason he's not interested?


Edited for you

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Quoted from AndyMariner


That's fair enough, it was just a thought if he was approached by the Trust with a structured plan then I didn't know if he could've been tempted to invest. Pure speculation on my part, plus I suppose it doesn't solve the issue of the club being dependent on one man's finances.


Structured plan which would be currently......

Hi Mike, its the GTST trust here...you may remember us from your previous dealings when you kindly donated a chunk of your personal shares (and fortune) to us which we subsequently voted to give to your arch nemesis at the time JF...
Well we have been having a discussion here and following the recent publication of our accounts where we made a loss last year we would like to approach you with an idea for Fans ownership of the club...basically we need around 2m to buy out JF's loan plus probably then a few more quid to buy up enough shares to regain overall control of the club...then a few more quid to give us a working budget and from that point on we should be then fairly self sustaining at the level we are at....
So our proposal is that we enter into this on a 50/50 basis, you provide the funds and we provide the great ideas.....Hello,,hello... oh the line seems to have gone dead.






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Barcelona are owned by their 180,000 members. Clubs do not have to be the playthings of oligarchs, magnates and other financial crooks to compete at the very highest level, so why should it be any different at ours?



So we are just 179,000 ish members short of being able to compete with Barcelona then ?  



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Isn't it against the spirit of this thread to suggest replacing one all-powerful rich individual with another all-powerful rich individual would solve the perceived problems? The OP (despite his incorrect use of the apostrophe) opined that the club should revert to an egalitarian shared ownership where (not rich) fans would have input into the decision making.


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Isn't it against the spirit of this thread to suggest replacing one all-powerful rich individual with another all-powerful rich individual would solve the perceived problems? The OP (despite his incorrect use of the apostrophe) opined that the club should revert to an egalitarian shared ownership where (not rich) fans would have input into the decision making.


He wouldnt be all powerful though, in the case of MP for example ( or any other person who has the funds going spare )  he would just have to stump up the cash, no strings attached and sign a waiver that we are now in charge of the club....brilliant idea really and one that a full page advert in the Telegraph (Evening not Daily) should resolve pretty quickly.

I also wonder if it were possible to somehow set the club up as a charity ?.. as then we open a global opportunity for exceedingly rich folk and corporations to donate vast sums as tax write off charitable donations to us, as long as we dont make a profit there should be no issues.

Baggsy that idea.




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Moosey--will you join me and Fat Cobra in a joint takeover -you are one of the very few to talk any sense-most of the rest are in cloud cuckoo land- I think the March Hare will appear soon.  I normally have my dreams when I am asleep
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Quoted from 1mickylyons


It doesn`t mean they couldn`t either?


It's business suicide to just hand someone with no experience the reigns of a business of this size.
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Structured plan which would be currently......

Hi Mike, its the GTST trust here...you may remember us from your previous dealings when you kindly donated a chunk of your personal shares (and fortune) to us which we subsequently voted to give to your arch nemesis at the time JF...
Well we have been having a discussion here and following the recent publication of our accounts where we made a loss last year we would like to approach you with an idea for Fans ownership of the club...basically we need around 2m to buy out JF's loan plus probably then a few more quid to buy up enough shares to regain overall control of the club...then a few more quid to give us a working budget and from that point on we should be then fairly self sustaining at the level we are at....
So our proposal is that we enter into this on a 50/50 basis, you provide the funds and we provide the great ideas.....Hello,,hello... oh the line seems to have gone dead.







Well, that's one way of looking at it! As 1mickylyons said: "Mike won`t have been happy about the shares but I am sure he is well aware of the facts/circumstances surrounding them being handed over."

My suggestion wasn't about fan ownership (although I do realise that's what this thread is about). Mine was about the possibility of a new owner (who supports Town) overseeing things, with a new more professional approach to the running of the club (for example, no rants from the accounts manager in the Telegraph and no message board outbursts from directors), with someone employed to deal with day-to-day issues / PR, and more involvement and respect for supporters (rather than them being seen as a hindrance). A plan would obviously take time to put together.

As Cloudy has pointed out though, it seems MP isn't interested in getting involved again so it's a non-starter.

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Moosey--will you join me and Fat Cobra in a joint takeover -you are one of the very few to talk any sense-most of the rest are in cloud cuckoo land- I think the March Hare will appear soon.  I normally have my dreams when I am asleep


I am flattered... but i wouldnt join any venture that would have me as a partner !  


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