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LeeVanCleef
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Quoted from EY Mariner
First of all, may I commend Paul for the excellent and professional manner in which he represented not just the Trust but all Town fans in his interview on Sky this evening. It was a stark contrast to the complete lack of professionalism and courtesy we have encountered ever since this whole sorry saga began.

While the cynic in me is not surprised by the announcement today, that doesn't stop me being incredibly angry about it. We may not enjoyed our time as a non-league club that much but the one thing I did enjoy, and miss even more so now, is how we, as away fans, were made welcome at so many of the clubs we visited. I would far rather visit one of the non-league clubs in that locality than go anywhere Stevenage again next season or any other season.

What this announcement shows is that when fans are mistreated as we were, the EFL hasn't got the guts to do what is right. Like the FA, it is unfit to run a drinking session in a brewery, let alone our national sport.

I understand complaints are going to be submitted to the IFO against Stevenage and, I would hope, against the EFL too. I am prepared to take that action as an individual too, but I think a collective action in the name of the Trust would carry more weight. One thing is for sure - this isn't over yet.


Now that's a good idea.

When we play Stevenage away next season, we should instead go on mass to the closest game geographically speaking to whoever is playing in the National League that day, and boost their support for the day and also their match income.
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For the record, speaking as the Vice Chair of the Trust, I really do hope the club comes out and supports the fans on this. And I think for every minute that ticks by with silence, they are making a huge mistake.
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I think we need to decide exactly what we wanted to come out of this.

Nothing can erase the shock, embarrassment, feeling of being assaulted that the female Town supporters endured that day but Stevenage were never going to admit their stewards went too far in fact they were unlikely to even admit it happened and the EFL weren't going to take action.

What exactly did we want to happen anyway? Stevenage to sack all their stewards? Stevenage to sack whoever in the club directed the stewards to take this course of action? The EFL to dock them points? The EFL to fine them?

Leaving aside the bandwaggon jumpers and nutters on here who wanted executions, a simple admission and apology is probably all our ladies were ever going to get and whilst that would been nice would it ever have been enough?

As it stands I think Stevenage FC has suffered very serious damage anyway thanks to the campaign waged on here, by the club through Kristine and in the national press in particular the Guardian. There cannot be a club in the lower (real) reaches of the EFL not aware and whose supporters will in some way, by boycotting, p!ss taking, publicising or whatever, ensure Stevenage FC suffer and never forget the incidents.

Not what the victims wanted perhaps but nevertheless a result of sorts and I reckon the stewarding at Stevenage will see a distinct improvement in attitude and politeness to all club's visiting fans in future



There was an immediate improvement of stewarding as Lincoln fans who visited the very next game there will testify.
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Quoted from Ipswin
I think we need to decide exactly what we wanted to come out of this.

Nothing can erase the shock, embarrassment, feeling of being assaulted that the female Town supporters endured that day but Stevenage were never going to admit their stewards went too far in fact they were unlikely to even admit it happened and the EFL weren't going to take action

Leaving aside the bandwaggon jumpers and nutters on here who wanted executions, a simple admission and apology is probably all our ladies were ever going to get and whilst that would been nice would it ever have been enough?

As it stands I think Stevenage FC has suffered very serious damage anyway thanks to the campaign waged on here, by the club through Kristine and in the national press in particular the Guardian. There cannot be a club in the lower (real) reaches of the EFL not aware and whose supporters will in some way, by boycotting, p!ss taking, publicising or whatever, ensure Stevenage FC suffer and never forget the incidents.

Not what the victims wanted perhaps but nevertheless a result of sorts and I reckon the stewarding at Stevenage will see a distinct improvement in attitude and politeness to all club's visiting fans in future


The issue has moved on from just Stevenage FC and should be firmly directed at the very governance of our game. It's not a one-off. The FA with Aluko and now this from the EFL. I'd like to see Harvey and his cronies dragged in front of a Commons Select Committee a la the FA a few weeks ago.

This should not be the end, it should be the start of a secondary process. we gave the EFL chance to act and they've ducked the question. If Stevenage as a club continue to get dragged through the mud along the way, then great, as we've not heard a peep of contrition over the matter from them.

The EFL and Stevenage have showed contempt for the female and young supporters of our club. We shouldn't just shrug our shoulders and let them be treated in that way. If it stops now it gives credence to the idiots who are making out that it was just a made up story.

Time for our non-chairman and MP to step up and take this forward as I'm sure the Trust are more than willing to fight to expose the truth..
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Been on their forum and Stevenage fans think we are a bunch of male masturbators and it never happened.
Dickheads


Town fans definitely need to boycott this ground, I’ll never step foot in it again, let’s hope other fans from other teams follow suit.👎


Grimsby and proud!
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Town fans definitely need to boycott this ground, I’ll never step foot in it again, let’s hope other fans from other teams follow suit.👎


Already on the list.

1. Stevenage
2. Forest Green
3. Cheltenham (though people who went the other day said it has improved, is this the case?)


Today we got our team back - town fan leaving Wembley may 2016
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For the record, speaking as the Vice Chair of the Trust, I really do hope the club comes out and supports the fans on this. And I think for every minute that ticks by with silence, they are making a huge mistake.


No great surprise though Bax is it?

The announcement from EFL states after consultation with both clubs. GTFC are aware of the investigation and its findings but as ever the fans (& IMO, The Trust) are being treated like a pimple on the clubs backside
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I understand that the response from the EFL was requested by both Hollywood & the FBI.
Apparently, Harvey Weinstein was disguised as a Stevenage Steward at the game. Any comment from the'paragons of justice' in the EFL would jeopardise investigations on the other side of the Atlantic !
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No great surprise though Bax is it?

The announcement from EFL states after consultation with both clubs. GTFC are aware of the investigation and its findings but as ever the fans (& IMO, The Trust) are being treated like a pimple on the clubs backside


Don't forget what was said in the Stevenage statement:

After liaising with Grimsby Town’s safety officer, the police and others, it was indicated that prohibited items were likely to try to be brought into the grounds and could be passed onto those deemed less likely to be searched, such as women and younger supporters.

This resulted in a joint club and police decision to implement a full, 100% compliant, searching regime as part of the condition of entry.

Grimsby Town’s Supporter Liason Officer was made fully aware of the nature of the search regime prior to the game, to ensure all attending were aware and could allow sufficient time to access the stadium.


I really hope that a massive over reaction from an alleged incident involving a tampon last season hasn't resulted in this. Official statement needed asap.

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Don't forget what was said in the Stevenage statement:

After liaising with Grimsby Town’s safety officer, the police and others, it was indicated that prohibited items were likely to try to be brought into the grounds and could be passed onto those deemed less likely to be searched, such as women and younger supporters.

This resulted in a joint club and police decision to implement a full, 100% compliant, searching regime as part of the condition of entry.

Grimsby Town’s Supporter Liason Officer was made fully aware of the nature of the search regime prior to the game, to ensure all attending were aware and could allow sufficient time to access the stadium.


I really hope that a massive over reaction from an alleged incident involving a tampon last season hasn't resulted in this. Official statement needed asap.



Yet it all turned out to be not factual......  As far as I am aware no previous incidents such as that were part of this investigation.
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