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Mariner_09
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For me:

McKeown

Mills
Osborne
Collins
Dixon (begrudgingly)

Dembele
Rose
Summerfield
Jaiyasimi

Jones
Vernon

Bench: Killip, Davies, Clarke, Berrett, Bolarinwa, Hooper, Matt



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We've improved defensively so I don't see any need to change that. In all honesty, I don't think it matters what team we put out considering the style of play they're being asked to execute.
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I`d put Osmond up front( Mike Lyons style) alongside Dembele with Jones in midfield which he prefers, at least it takes the boredom out of the game, Although I`ve never seen Osmond up front he has to be quicker than the Matts, Vernons and Hoopers of this world and he has more of a chance of getting on the end of hoofs, what do you recon
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Quoted from Garth
I`d put Osmond up front( Mike Lyons style) alongside Dembele with Jones in midfield which he prefers, at least it takes the boredom out of the game, Although I`ve never seen Osmond up front he has to be quicker than the Matts, Vernons and Hoopers of this world and he has more of a chance of getting on the end of hoofs, what do you recon


Not sure you could play the Osmond stand up front although it would be more mobile than Matt or Vernon
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McKeown
Mills Clarke Collins Dixon
Dembele Rose Summerfield Jaiyesimi
Jones Matt

Bench: Killip, K.Osborne, Davies, Bolarinwa, Clifton, Cardwell, Hooper.

Will never be that I know, but that's what I'd do. Mix a few things up.


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Mckeown
Mills Collins Clarke Davies
Dembele Berrett Summerfield Jaiyesimi
Jones Matt

Bench: K.Osborne, Dixon, Kilip, Rose, Woolford, Hooper, Cardwell


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I`d put Osmond up front( Mike Lyons style) alongside Dembele with Jones in midfield which he prefers, at least it takes the boredom out of the game, Although I`ve never seen Osmond up front he has to be quicker than the Matts, Vernons and Hoopers of this world and he has more of a chance of getting on the end of hoofs, what do you recon
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Quoted from listy
I`d put Osmond up front( Mike Lyons style) alongside Dembele with Jones in midfield which he prefers, at least it takes the boredom out of the game, Although I`ve never seen Osmond up front he has to be quicker than the Matts, Vernons and Hoopers of this world and he has more of a chance of getting on the end of hoofs, what do you recon


Fkin silly idea, who suggested that
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I'd imagine we'll start with much the same team as yesterday. Defence picks itself (Osborne has barely played and the other two are doing OK). Davies playing better than last season and doesn't deserve to be dropped for Mills and Dixon our only left-back (who isn't nearly as poor as some claim).

Though not the biggest fan of our current midfield pairing, I'm not the biggest fan of Rose either as his fitness is suspect to me. Might need to bring him on later in the game to add some strength and deal with the usual physical hurly-burly/cheating (delete ad appropriate) we can expect from Cheltenham.

Up front, it's between Vernon and Matt to play alongside Jones. Vernon less likely to do something extraordinary or outpace a defender, but also less likely to be dominated by a defender. I'd probably put Vernon in as Matt is potentially a stronger impact sub. Jones is our biggest goal threat so has to play, even if he does sodomist all else but score the odd goal here and there. Oddly enough, this is exactly what Hooper is criticised for, but I think Jones probably has more goals in him so that's why he gets the pick.
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I'd quite like to see us try the 352 thing in the League.
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Quoted from Rob_in_Grimsby


Not sure you could play the Osmond stand up front although it would be more mobile than Matt or Vernon


We could have Barrett feeding balls through to Osmond.


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I'd quite like to see us try the 352 thing in the League.


I don't think we've got the pace to play a back 3 - not in the centre-backs or the full-backs/wingers playing as the wide men in a midfield 5.

I think the fact that we played so much 4-2-3-1 at the start of the season (and during pre-season) showed how Slade planned for us to play, but it just didn't work with the players at our disposal.
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A 442 Diamond
Macca

Davies
Osbourn (I wanted some pace in the back line and Davies is playing too well to drop at the mo)
Collins
Dixon

Dembele
Jones (nothing agianst Berret but I wanted to keep Jones in the side) higher up supporting the front 2
Summerfield sitting in front of back 4
DJ

Vernon
Cardwell (I want this lad to have a chance I feel he could make a difference with that little bit of extra pace and I think he knows where the net is)


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Regarding Cardwell, why do some people think he's relatively quick?

From the few occasions I've seen him play, he's looked well, not slow, but certainly nothing like quick. I'd be staggered if he was quicker than Matt as he certainly doesn't look it, so why think we should put him in for extra pace? Sorry, just don't get this.
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Last time he appeared as a sub, he left one of their defenders for dead. He surprised me with his turn of pace.
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Watch the highlights from saturday, and every single highlight of a town attack (using the word loosely) heavily involved jones. He does much more than just score goals.
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I would even consider playing Jones & Dembele up front - that might encourage everyone else to keep the ball on the deck.
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The one thing that pisses me off more than anything about Town isn't the so called hoofball but the lack of positive runs from midfield. That doesn't take skill on the ball but I guess does need some coaching and a brain.

Just want to see one of our players sprint beyond the strikers, preferably a different one at different times. Play the ball up to Vernon, Matt or Jones and then have at least one player busting a gut to time his run beyond them. Forward then either flicks it on or plays it back for a ball played in behind.

Every games we sit with the 4 midfielders in a line and 4 defenders behind them. Far too cautious for me, football is about taking calculated risks and imposing ourselves on the oppo

Slade will make changes for Tuesday as he doesn't seem to think players can play twice in a few days.

One things for sure we need to be aware of them 'winning' free kicks around our box and their set plays in general.
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Dembele should play in behind Jones, find pockets of space and get the ball to his feet so he can run at the defence and push them back
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Surprised at the amount of people saying we should drop Berrett. Don’t think done a lot wrong all season.


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Surprised at the amount of people saying we should drop Berrett. Don’t think done a lot wrong all season.


Agree - he's maybe playing too deep but probably because he's been told to, and wins a surprising number of headers too.
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Surprised at the amount of people saying we should drop Berrett. Don’t think done a lot wrong all season.


I think other than maybe Dembele he's been our best player this season. He's easily been our most consistent player. Very neat and tidy, doesn't give the ball away and has been surprisingly combative.
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Problem is some people just can’t see beyond him being bang average being played on the right wing. He does the central role really well. Breaks up play, keeps the ball moving.


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This HAS to be one of the teams for me....

Option 1...

             McKeown

Mills Osbourne Clarke Collins

                 Rose

Bolly.   Summerfield     DJ
    
                Jones Dembele


Option 2....

             McKeown

    Mills Osbourne  Collins

  Berrett   Rose  Summerfield

     Bolly   Dembele    DJ

                Jones

Dixon has been so poor the last 3-4 games and doesn't warrant a place (unless Slade wants to carry on watching the ball be launched out of play).

Woolford offers us absolutely nothing. No pace, cannot beat a man, havent seen him put one cross in, doesn't defensively cover.
He's a player on his way down and absolutely reeks of a panic signing.

Abit harsh on Berret in option 1 because he hasn't been bad but I just rate Rose more.

I've took Mills over Davies because he offers more of an attacking option.

Our strikers (Vernon, Matt and Hooper) shouldn't be anywhere near the squad, never mind the team.
In all honesty, I cannot remember a time where 3 out of 4 strikers where so poor.

Anyway, just my opinion. Sure somebody won't agree.
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Option 1...

             McKeown

Mills Osbourne Clarke Collins

                 Rose

Demebele   Summerfield     DJ
    
                Jones




I'd rather we started with 11 players personally. I know we got used to 10 earlier in the season but no need to start that way.
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As for option 2, defensively that's horrible. You've got three centre backs and no players from midfield covering wide such as a wing-back.
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I'd rather we started with 11 players personally. I know we got used to 10 earlier in the season but no need to start that way.


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As for option 2, defensively that's horrible. You've got three centre backs and no players from midfield covering wide such as a wing-back.


Disagree.
When we defend, Rose and either Summerfield/Berett would drop in and cover in front of the back three. Both Mills and Osbourne both poses the pace at the back,

When we attack, we attack as a five (one of Summerfield or Berrett, Dembele, Bolly, DJ and Jones).
Summerfield and Berret interchange on the attack. One sits and one ventures forward.

Basically we attack as 5 and defend as 5, if they hit us on the break.
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Disagree.
When we defend, Rose and either Summerfield/Berett would drop in and cover in front of the back three. Both Mills and Osbourne both poses the pace at the back,

When we attack, we attack as a five (one of Summerfield or Berrett, Dembele, Bolly, DJ and Jones).
Summerfield and Berret interchange on the attack. One sits and one ventures forward.

Basically we attack as 5 and defend as 5, if they hit us on the break.


Doesn't change the fact that you've got nothing covering out wide, particularly on the left where you'd be relying solely on 37 year old Collins. It would be defensive suicide.
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We've conceded once in three games. I'd be very surprised if Slade makes wholesale changes to the defence.


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Quoted from gtfc98
Surprised at the amount of people saying we should drop Berrett. Don’t think done a lot wrong all season.


He hasn't done a great deal wrong because he hasn't really done much to get wrong. He's not an awful player and he's not been stand-out bad, he just has no effect on a game.

He wins a few headers but so would Jamille Matt if you put him in CM. Berrett stays in (team) shape and he doesn't take risks which I guess is why Slade likes him. But he's too slow to move the ball on, doesn't see a pass quick enough and doesn't play incisive passes to break through lines.

I've got nothing against him and do think he's more combative this year than he was last season. But in my opinion he hides when we're in possession and doesn't do enough to get on the ball, and doesn't do enough in 90 minutes of football.

We need better if we're considering a challenge for the play-offs.


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Doesn't change the fact that you've got nothing covering out wide, particularly on the left where you'd be relying solely on 37 year old Collins. It would be defensive suicide.



Again, it's  all about opinions but I disagree again.

When we attack, the two midfielders in Rose and Berrett sit and allow the front 5 to press on.

Then if hit on the break, we have got another cover to get across to the left or right, however we are attacked.

I would see our defensive positioning like this.

               McKeown

    Mills    Osbourne    Collins

<-----   Rose   Berrett  ---->

The players (arrows) will cover subject to which side the attack comes.

Effectively, if we get caughtee have 5 to cover. That's actually more than what we have playing the 442.

Attack wise, I would suggest it would be like this.

           Rose     Berrett

Bolly        Dembele       DJ
⬇️               ⬇️              ⬇️

                  Jones
                     ⬇️


Rose and Berett stay and operate around the half way line to pick up any second balls and to cover on a counter attack.

Collins and Osbourne are experienced enough to position themselves correctly and Mills has pace (So has Osbourne).

I cannot see how you can say it is defensive suicide, when effectly we have 5 back (when needed)
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Quoted from gtfc98
Surprised at the amount of people saying we should drop Berrett. Don’t think done a lot wrong all season.


All he does is pass the ball sideways and backwards, need some creativity in the middle of the park. Dont need him and summerfield playing as they both do that but summerfield puts himself about as well berrett doesnt.

Id even rather have wooldford centre mid with summerfield, definitely not quick enough to play out wide, especially with dixon behind him we must have the slowest left side in the league, dont see why Jaiyesimi doesnt get a start always looks exciting when he comes on. If he isnt going to get a chance what is the point in him being there.

Id start with this,

McKeown, Davies Clarke Collins Dixon (still not a fan) , DJ Summerfield Woolford Kelly, Jones and Dembele up top (only because the rest of our strikers are terrible and painful, our best hope gone out on loan even when not match fit).

Look on the bright surely it can only get better after saturday
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Again, it's  all about opinions but I disagree again.

When we attack, the two midfielders in Rose and Berrett sit and allow the front 5 to press on.

Then if hit on the break, we have got another cover to get across to the left or right, however we are attacked.

I would see our defensive positioning like this.

               McKeown

    Mills    Osbourne    Collins

<-----   Rose   Berrett  ---->

The players (arrows) will cover subject to which side the attack comes.

Effectively, if we get caughtee have 5 to cover. That's actually more than what we have playing the 442.

Attack wise, I would suggest it would be like this.

           Rose     Berrett

Bolly        Dembele       DJ
⬇️               ⬇️              ⬇️

                  Jones
                     ⬇️


Rose and Berett stay and operate around the half way line to pick up any second balls and to cover on a counter attack.

Collins and Osbourne are experienced enough to position themselves correctly and Mills has pace (So has Osbourne).

I cannot see how you can say it is defensive suicide, when effectly we have 5 back (when needed)


Do you honestly think that we only have 4 players defending at the minute? We have two very obvious banks of four so in reality when we're defending we've got 8 plus the goalkeeper.

Your explanation doesn't make it any clearer, you're saying you'd rely on central midfielders to do all the covering out wide so what happens if the other team switches it quickly? It would be defensive suicide like I said before.
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