Paul Hurst

Hi all,

Have a look at this article on your ex-manager Paul Hurst [url]http://d3d4football.com/hurricane-hurst-creating-a-storm-in-league-one/[/url]

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James

Can't be arsed he is history now

I'd rather excrement in my hands and clap.

Paul  who ?

He'll be at one of the big Yorkshire clubs before long I should think

The massive Rotherham

God, not another Paul Chuffing Hurst thread - this time off 'click bait Clive'!

Hurricane Hurst? PMSL  

Quoted from GrimRob

He'll be at one of the big Yorkshire clubs before long I should think

100% agree, if he carries on like this he'll be Wednesday manager (he always said he was brought up to be a Wednesday fan)

No such thing as a big Yorkshire club these days, is there?

Huddersfield are doing alright  

Nah, Hull had a good first 5 games once and they didn't become a big club

Quoted from chaos33

Huddersfield are doing alright  

and a shankley connection utm

Quoted from Abdul19

No such thing as a big Yorkshire club these days, is there?

We do have giant Yorkshire puddings now though.

Just ignore 3d4d, he's just here to promote his website

And a crap website at that

Quoted from pizzzza

I'd rather excrement in my hands and clap.

Would you kindly send me details of where I can send you the bill for a new keyboard as I have just spat out a mouthful of Yorkshire tea all over it.

Thank you.

Toto puts them ahead

Quoted from chaos33

Huddersfield are doing alright  

Leeds having a mare too, top of the league soon

Quoted from Abdul19

No such thing as a big Yorkshire club these days, is there?

Well the majority seem to be higher up the FL pyramid than us!

Quoted from ginnywings

We do have giant Yorkshire puddings now though.

Yes, I doubt many of the fookers would get down tut pit nowadays!  

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/art.....b344d514a54d365c6af4

Interesting piece again by Gregor Robertson who visited Shrewsbury this weekend, couple of bits about us in there. I'm not into this Paul Hurst love in but it's a decent read for anyone with a spare 5 minutes..

Never liked him and still don't.

Players do though.

Quoted from psgmariner

Never liked him and still don't.

is it that important to like your manager?

Personally thought he lacked charisma but players liked him and the bond between the players and fans was really strong when he was here e.g. on the pitch after the PO semi at Braintree.  

despite the fact 2 months earlier some fans thought it acceptable to sing " we're flipping excrement" at the players

Quoted from psgmariner

Never liked him and still don't.

He did not like us

Quoted from grimsby pete

He did not like us

yes he did, thats total balderdash pete. he praised the fans on many occasions

Quoted from Hagrid

yes he did, thats total balderdash pete. he praised the fans on many occasions

He was a moaning little git but you are welcome to your opinion like I have mine.

Did he say goodbye its been great but its time I moved on ?

No he left it to sniffer to lie for him and went for a drink with Gary Johnson who's Cheltenham team had just beat us again.

Quoted from Hagrid

he praised the fans on many occasions

He never told me he loved me

Quoted from grimsby pete

He was a moaning little git but you are welcome to your opinion like I have mine.

Did he say goodbye its been great but its time I moved on ?

No he left it to sniffer to lie for him and went for a drink with Gary Johnson who's Cheltenham team had just beat us again.

Careful Pete, you'd better hope PH hasn't got any brothers or you'll be getting more PM's  

Quoted from Civvy at last

Careful Pete, you'd better hope PH hasn't got any brothers or you'll be getting more PM's  

AND mobile phone numbers  

Quoted from HertsGTFC

is it that important to like your manager?

Not at all. Just my opinion as a fan of the club. He's doing really well at Shrewsbury but I am glad he has gone and am bored of reading about him.

[url=https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-hursts-non-league-graduates-went-from-scraping-survival-to-topping-the-pile-lgj6pfhhx?shareToken=ac833fb3cb8bb344d514a54d365c6af4]https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-hursts-non-league-graduates-went-from-scraping-survival-to-topping-the-pile-lgj6pfhhx?shareToken=ac833fb3cb8bb344d514a54d365c6af4[/url]

Quoted from Harry Haddock

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Quoted from psgmariner

Not at all. Just my opinion as a fan of the club. He's doing really well at Shrewsbury but I am glad he has gone and am bored of reading about him.

But not bored enough to offer up the odd post or two?

If Hurst could have got Town starting a season like he has Shrewsbury this season,

He would have been loved by us all,

Lets not forget we only finished 4th when we did manage to get out of non league,

We had so many disappointing results along the way so that's why he was not as popular as he could have been,

Apart from that he was a miserable  git..

Quoted from grimsby pete

If Hurst could have got Town starting a season like he has Shrewsbury this season,

He would have been loved by us all,

Lets not forget we only finished 4th when we did manage to get out of non league,

We had so many disappointing results along the way so that's why he was not as popular as he could have been,

Apart from that he was a miserable  git..

He's not the only one is he Pete?

'We only finished 4th'

Seriously, get over yourselves. We were promoted. Really, who cares where we finished??

And for any heavy defeat there must have been a couple of very high scoring wins. I remember us putting 7ish past Mansfield, Stockport, Halifax off the top of my head. But lets not concentrate on that.

Quoted from sam gy

'We only finished 4th'

Seriously, get over yourselves. We were promoted. Really, who cares where we finished??

And for any heavy defeat there must have been a couple of very high scoring wins. I remember us putting 7ish past Mansfield, Stockport, Halifax off the top of my head. But lets not concentrate on that.

Just ignore them Paul and don't let it get you down.

*pedant alert*

Mansfield was Neil Woods

I'm pleased he's doing well. And pleased for the ex town players. The Halifax away game tarnished my view on our lots support that season with the abuse the players got. I was angry at the performance that day but the language aimed at the manager and players was shocking. They deserved better.

Quoted from Abdul19

*pedant alert*

Mansfield was Neil Woods

Yes it was and the next game we won 6-1 at Histon,

So that proves even a rubbish manager can get a few good results.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

He's not the only one is he Pete?

I thought I was a happy clapper  

Alfreton 7.0 just after gateshead away 6.1

Quoted from arryarryarry

Just ignore them Paul and don't let it get you down.

*Cups ear* It's ok mate, I can't really hear them from up here.

Quoted from excusebeef

I'm pleased he's doing well. And pleased for the ex town players. The Halifax away game tarnished my view on our lots support that season with the abuse the players got. I was angry at the performance that day but the language aimed at the manager and players was shocking. They deserved better.

I remember the night when we drew 0-0 vs Morecambe and made it to Wembley.I was late finishing work so went straight to the ground and got in about 6.45pm I went and sat in the Main stand near the old press box. Buckley was in there on his own deep in thought looking out over the pitch and I wanted to speak to him and offer him some encouragement ( I couldn`t though cos he had like a glow about him he knew his stuff he didn`t need me or the fans just his players to listen).That team was arguably the worst squad of players we have ever seen assembled yet somehow he moulded them into a team and that image of Buckley was why for me even though he was never all about the fans you could warm to him still.

Fast forward to Wembley and PH when he cupped his ears I felt very bitter and betrayed (I admit I wanted him gone after the Braintree home game) . I had bought Season tickets for his last 2 years as Manager for the first time since Buckley was sacked. I had believed in him I wanted to back him and his team he had at last assembled a team worthy of our support PH had his reasons for cupping his ears I don`t dispute that but his players and those supporters who had backed him deserved better.PH never had that glow for me and I could never see him being accepted back here.I hope PH goes onto have a successful career and this was his Launchpad but being honest the football was usually pretty dour and will never ever be remembered for it`s beauty.

Football is the beautiful game and for GTFC fans of a certain age that belongs to Buckley.UTM

Quoted from 1mickylyons

I remember the night when we drew 0-0 vs Morecambe and made it to Wembley.I was late finishing work so went straight to the ground and got in about 6.45pm I went and sat in the Main stand near the old press box. Buckley was in there on his own deep in thought looking out over the pitch and I wanted to speak to him and offer him some encouragement ( I couldn`t though cos he had like a glow about him he knew his stuff he didn`t need me or the fans just his players to listen).That team was arguably the worst squad of players we have ever seen assembled yet somehow he moulded them into a team and that image of Buckley was why for me even though he was never all about the fans you could warm to him still.

Fast forward to Wembley and PH when he cupped his ears I felt very bitter and betrayed (I admit I wanted him gone after the Braintree home game) . I had bought Season tickets for his last 2 years as Manager for the first time since Buckley was sacked. I had believed in him I wanted to back him and his team he had at last assembled a team worthy of our support PH had his reasons for cupping his ears I don`t dispute that but his players and those supporters who had backed him deserved better.PH never had that glow for me and I could never see him being accepted back here.I hope PH goes onto have a successful career and this was his Launchpad but being honest the football was usually pretty dour and will never ever be remembered for it`s beauty.

Football is the beautiful game and for GTFC fans of a certain age that belongs to Buckley.UTM

Players inc Town ones from time to time cup their ears on a regular basis.

Quoted from GRIMSBY TOWN FANS

I don't care that we won at Wembley and got promoted. I spat out my flask of tea in rage when Paul Hurst cupped his ear. Totally ruined the day for me and I will never forgive the man for being from Yorkshire.

94th min winner tonight for the Shrews. They are on fire! Well done PH.

Quoted from GrimRob

94th min winner tonight for the Shrews. They are on fire! Well done PH.

Just think of the poor Shrewsbury fans having to listen to his interview though. I pity them as they sit at the top of League 1. Thank god he's gone and our slow but continuous period of improvement has ended.

Paul, for quite a few months up to the end I was one of your biggest critics on the Fishy. But I was wrong. My expectations were unreasonable. It wasn’t always pretty Paul, but hey we were a non-league club and you were still learning your trade. You achieved your goal of promotion. I don’t care if you scraped over the line, you provided the fairy tale ending for every fan that supported operation promotion. Yes, maybe I was spoilt!
Tonight, I had the misfortune of watching an "experienced" league manager ply his trade. Soul destroying.
All the best at Shrewsbury, you deserve it.

Why are you addressing Hurst directly on this thread?! You think he'll ever see it?! Quite mad.

Quoted from chaos33

Why are you addressing Hurst directly on this thread?! You think he'll ever see it?! Quite mad.

Yes, I must be watching that crap week in, week out.

Pretty funny that people who used to say Hurst was stubborn and stuck in his ways are now the ones still going on about him being a useless, boring Yorkshire illegitimate.

Or they're bored and think everyone should stop talking about it.

Hard to decide what is more boring really - the team or the content of this site.

He's now in a TalkSport poll

The question

"Which English manager is doing the best job for his club at the moment"

Hurst is one of the four choices in the poll

Great manager

He's made it now.

Quoted from 120790

He's now in a TalkSport poll

The question

"Which English manager is doing the best job for his club at the moment"

Hurst is one of the four choices in the poll

Great manager

Talk about hyperbole..

Shankly, Clough, Ferguson and Revie were GREAT managers..

That word gets thrown around far too often..

It's absolutely our loss and Shrewsbury's gain. He should never have been allowed to leave for a nothing club like them. The club and a large portion of the fans look a little silly now. He was able to consistently put a top 5 team out and deal with those that run the club.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

It's absolutely our loss and Shrewsbury's gain. He should never have been allowed to leave for a nothing club like them. The club and a large portion of the fans look a little silly now. He was able to consistently put a top 5 team out and deal with those that run the club.

I totally agree. Managers come and go, but we had one who had just won promotion with us, after some near misses, was settled here and had rebuilt the team to make a challenge in league 2.

I don't know what went on behind the scenes, but surely the time was right to give him what he felt necessary, and a new contract and keep the club settled and progressing. I couldn't believe he was allowed to go to Shrewsbury but what a move it has turned out to be for him.

I understand he was on the" minimum" wage and asked that with him getting us promotion was it possible for him to go on the  "living" wage. After being told that for that sort of money he would have to take on extra work i.e. clean the " Ponny Shitters", as Jonnyboy would say,he decided to leave. Now we have nobody to clean them.

Quoted from golfer

I understand he was on the" minimum" wage and asked that with him getting us promotion was it possible for him to go on the  "living" wage. After being told that for that sort of money he would have to take on extra work i.e. clean the " Ponny Shitters", as Jonnyboy would say,he decided to leave. Now we have nobody to clean them.

Surely that role had been filled as one of our 'Experience days'

Fair play to him.Good solid manager

He was a droll Yorkie
Sometimes we where crap
But would have the passion and unity he brought into the team back tomorrow and him to
Shows lack of ambition on club behalf for not keeping him
Look what we have got now

Quoted from headingly_mariner

It's absolutely our loss and Shrewsbury's gain. He should never have been allowed to leave for a nothing club like them. The club and a large portion of the fans look a little silly now. He was able to consistently put a top 5 team out and deal with those that run the club.

He wanted to go. We were compensated.

As for them being a nothing club, you are living in the previous century. They averaged more than us last season (a poor one for them and a good one for us straight after promotion) . Their ground and facilities are vastly superior and they are a division above us.

The way things are going they could be 3 divisions above us next season

Quoted from golfer

The way things are going they could be 3 divisions above us next season

And then again ------------------------------we could be at the same level

Quoted from GrimRob

He wanted to go. We were compensated.

As for them being a nothing club, you are living in the previous century. They averaged more than us last season (a poor one for them and a good one for us straight after promotion) . Their ground and facilities are vastly superior and they are a division above us.

I think the question that needed to be asked is why did he want to go?

They are miles away from where he lives. They were deep in the relegation zone, which is a huge gamble and they're Shrewsbury Town. They've averaged about 5.5 thousand over the last few seasons and they built a new ground with  a capacity under 10 thousand.

It just doesn't make any sense to make that move unless there was something wrong at Town. Where was his new contract? Why had he not been provided with an S&C coach? If you remember before he left he was publicly critical about the lack infrastructure on the coaching side.

Glad he's gone, saw no future in him and sniffer long term at GTFC, as a manager your face has to fit here, his did not, Buckers and big Mac did    Just!

Quoted from headingly_mariner

I think the question that needed to be asked is why did he want to go?

They are miles away from where he lives. They were deep in the relegation zone, which is a huge gamble and they're Shrewsbury Town. They've averaged about 5.5 thousand over the last few seasons and they built a new ground with  a capacity under 10 thousand.
.

Better contract?

Quoted from Garth

Glad he's gone, saw no future in him and sniffer long term at GTFC, as a manager your face has to fit here, his did not, Buckers and big Mac did    Just!

He was here for 5 and a half years - is that not long term enough for you?!

Quoted from headingly_mariner

I think the question that needed to be asked is why did he want to go?

They are miles away from where he lives. They were deep in the relegation zone, which is a huge gamble and they're Shrewsbury Town. They've averaged about 5.5 thousand over the last few seasons and they built a new ground with  a capacity under 10 thousand.

It just doesn't make any sense to make that move unless there was something wrong at Town. Where was his new contract? Why had he not been provided with an S&C coach? If you remember before he left he was publicly critical about the lack infrastructure on the coaching side.

I can’t remember him moaning too much about S&C and infrastructure before he left, made a few comments afterwards but not as many as his predecessor did in his first week in the role.

I just think some posters need to just need to accept that to be a player or manager of GTFC may not be the sum total of someone’s ambition and when someone leaves there is not always a big conspiracy or back story behind things they may just want to move forward how they feel best in their careers.

At the risk of starting another” Fenty is the antichrist debate there are lots of clubs that we used to look down on but the tide has turned and they look down on us now after our decline.

It hurts to say it but in reality ladies & gents in the league pyramid on and off the pitch we are currently distinctly small time.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I can’t remember him moaning too much about S&C and infrastructure before he left, made a few comments afterwards but not as many as his predecessor did in his first week in the role.

I just think some posters need to just need to accept that to be a player or manager of GTFC may not be the sum total of someone’s ambition and when someone leaves there is not always a big conspiracy or back story behind things they may just want to move forward how they feel best in their careers.

At the risk of starting another” Fenty is the antichrist debate there are lots of clubs that we used to look down on but the tide has turned and they look down on us now after our decline.

It hurts to say it but in reality ladies & gents in the league pyramid on and off the pitch we are currently distinctly small time.

The highlighted bit is for me a direct consequence of our six seasons in non-league. Yes the fan base by and large held up but as has been mentioned on here numerous times there was no spare money floating about to maintain a good youth scheme (and the competition for good youngsters from established league clubs was stiff) or create posts in the areas mentioned which League clubs could use some of their payments to at least partially source. I hate it but the fact is that on our return to the League we were no different to any other new club in respect of our starting point. I love our rich history but in practical terms it meant absolutely nothing.

Quoted from barralad

The highlighted bit is for me a direct consequence of our six seasons in non-league. Yes the fan base by and large held up but as has been mentioned on here numerous times there was no spare money floating about to maintain a good youth scheme (and the competition for good youngsters from established league clubs was stiff) or create posts in the areas mentioned which League clubs could use some of their payments to at least partially source. I hate it but the fact is that on our return to the League we were no different to any other new club in respect of our starting point. I love our rich history but in practical terms it meant absolutely nothing.

It's not as if we've relied or benefitted from providing our own youngsters in our recent past.
The club didn't move to make the improvements off the field after promotion and lost a manager when we shouldn't have.

You don't have to be a mega bucks established league club to make good decisions to keep a successful manager.
The problem is nothing to do with our History, it is the failings of the current administration to run the club properly. Losing a successful manager to another unfashionable lower division club is just one of many issues.

We are back in a position were crowds are dropping, people feel no connection with most of the playing/coaching staff and any forward momentum we had is lost. The club has been in a rut for years, PH lifted that. The club has a negative aura again and that is down to the board.

Quoted from barralad

The highlighted bit is for me a direct consequence of our six seasons in non-league. Yes the fan base by and large held up but as has been mentioned on here numerous times there was no spare money floating about to maintain a good youth scheme (and the competition for good youngsters from established league clubs was stiff) or create posts in the areas mentioned which League clubs could use some of their payments to at least partially source. I hate it but the fact is that on our return to the League we were no different to any other new club in respect of our starting point. I love our rich history but in practical terms it meant absolutely nothing.

Exactly!

Quoted from headingly_mariner

It's not as if we've relied or benefitted from providing our own youngsters in our recent past.
The club didn't move to make the improvements off the field after promotion and lost a manager when we shouldn't have.

You don't have to be a mega bucks established league club to make good decisions to keep a successful manager.
The problem is nothing to do with our History, it is the failings of the current administration to run the club properly. Losing a successful manager to another unfashionable lower division club is just one of many issues.

We are back in a position were crowds are dropping, people feel no connection with most of the playing/coaching staff and any forward momentum we had is lost. The club has been in a rut for years, PH lifted that. The club has a negative aura again and that is down to the board.

I agree but worth pointing out fair amount of the negativity that some feel about the club is being fueled by social media as well as what goes on in the board room and on the pitch.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

We are back in a position were crowds are dropping, people feel no connection with most of the playing/coaching staff and any forward momentum we had is lost. The club has been in a rut for years, PH lifted that. The club has a negative aura again and that is down to the board.

Paul Hurst was exactly what we needed, at that time. He settled things down, built a team, got us promoted and steadied us in League 2.

So many fans got bogged down in the small, irrelevant details ('dour Yorkie') that they lost sight of the bigger picture.

And that is: he's a young manager with three promotions on his CV, a fantastic win ratio and an ability to build squads that are big on organisation and teamwork.

I'm not surprised he moved on, I'm not surprised he's enjoying success somewhere else and I'm absolutely not surprised we as a club we're too stupid to not give him what he needed to keep us moving forward.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

It's not as if we've relied or benefitted from providing our own youngsters in our recent past.
The club didn't move to make the improvements off the field after promotion and lost a manager when we shouldn't have.

You don't have to be a mega bucks established league club to make good decisions to keep a successful manager.
The problem is nothing to do with our History, it is the failings of the current administration to run the club properly. Losing a successful manager to another unfashionable lower division club is just one of many issues.

We are back in a position were crowds are dropping, people feel no connection with most of the playing/coaching staff and any forward momentum we had is lost. The club has been in a rut for years, PH lifted that. The club has a negative aura again and that is down to the board.

When Hurst left we were a matter of a few months back into League football. I know you keep saying that the Shrews are an unfashionable club etc. but from a managers point of view they were:- established in the league above, had all of the things that people think Hurst wanted for GTFC already in place, and from his personal point of view big plusses on his C.V. if he managed to keep Shrewsbury up. I think that people in the football world in general probably look at Hurst's achievements with us in a far more positive manner (than maybe we as fans who lived through those six years do) which would have made him more of a target anyway. None of us are privvy to what Town's long term plan may (or may not) be. I just believe that it is unfair on the club to claim some lack of effective overall management for the fact that they hadn't by October 2016 managed to get all of those things in place for the reasons in my original post. I'd go so far as to say that given the financial considerations of being non-league and the difficulties of getting out of the hell hole that is the National League clubs that can afford to plan for life back in the League before they've got there are few and far between. The only clubs which could realistically be expected for it not to have a major effect on are those that spent the minimum time there of which Brizzle are the most obvious (only?) example.

Speaking to a Brentford fan the other day and he tells me that they don't have any sort of youth set up any longer. They did have the whole shebang at one point but then one of the young players they'd had for a decade and who was predicted to have a bright future was poached by one of the big London clubs for a pittance because of the EPPP racket so they shut it all down.

Instead of a youth set up, they now operate a 'B' Team which plays (to quote the Brentford fan), 'prestigious friendlies' against young teams from around Europe. Most of the B team are young foreign players, aged 20 or under, and the plan is to try and develop one or two of these into decent players before cashing in and selling them on.

When even a relatively big club such as Brentford has given up on youth football thanks to the EPPP, you can see how we could be on a hiding to nothing ourselves, even if operating youth teams is entirely the correct thing to do morally. What happens when we get a promising youngster who then nicks off to a big club for 10 grand? It's just not likely to ever pay for itself, unfortunately.

Quoted from barralad

When Hurst left we were a matter of a few months back into League football. I know you keep saying that the Shrews are an unfashionable club etc. but from a managers point of view they were:- established in the league above, had all of the things that people think Hurst wanted for GTFC already in place, and from his personal point of view big plusses on his C.V. if he managed to keep Shrewsbury up. I think that people in the football world in general probably look at Hurst's achievements with us in a far more positive manner (than maybe we as fans who lived through those six years do) which would have made him more of a target anyway. None of us are privvy to what Town's long term plan may (or may not) be. I just believe that it is unfair on the club to claim some lack of effective overall management for the fact that they hadn't by October 2016 managed to get all of those things in place for the reasons in my original post. I'd go so far as to say that given the financial considerations of being non-league and the difficulties of getting out of the hell hole that is the National League clubs that can afford to plan for life back in the League before they've got there are few and far between. The only clubs which could realistically be expected for it not to have a major effect on are those that spent the minimum time there of which Brizzle are the most obvious (only?) example.

They were deep in trouble and are regular strugglers in that division. I'm not saying they are unfashionable as if we are Barcelona. We are just as unfashionable, but we were on an upward curve and not miles away from his family home.

It's absolutely innefective management to have not prepared for the football league. It's ridiculous that a manager feels he has to hint about a S&C coach in interviews to try and get one.

Do you trust the current administration to take the club forward? Do you even trust them to keep us in the league?

Quoted from headingly_mariner

They were deep in trouble and are regular strugglers in that division. I'm not saying they are unfashionable as if we are Barcelona. We are just as unfashionable, but we were on an upward curve and not miles away from his family home.

It's absolutely innefective management to have not prepared for the football league. It's ridiculous that a manager feels he has to hint about a S&C coach in interviews to try and get one.

Do you trust the current administration to take the club forward? Do you even trust them to keep us in the league?

By not having a S&C coach it does not mean that you haven't prepared for league football and it's not the magic formula to success, some suggest if you have one you win if you don't you lose. We have one now and to be fair the players don't look much fitter or stronger than they did last year. Oddly enough on Saturday I think Lincoln looked fresher in the last 10 minutes.

I think we where on an upward curve but don't lose sight of how one Marcus Bignot dropped us off our ladder and down the snake.  

Quoted from HertsGTFC

By not having a S&C coach it does not mean that you haven't prepared for league football and it's not the magic formula to success, some suggest if you have one you win if you don't you lose. We have one now and to be fair the players don't look much fitter or stronger than they did last year. Oddly enough on Saturday I think Lincoln looked fresher in the last 10 minutes.

I think we where on an upward curve but don't lose sight of how one Marcus Bignot dropped us off our ladder and down the snake.  

Of course it does, investing in sports science and the conditioning of the players can have a huge benefit on the team. Is it the most important thing in a pro football club? No. Is it an important part of modern pro football? Absolutely.

Bignot was allowed a free reign for 5 months of madness, he had far more backing than Hurst ever had and he bought magic beans. We've had loads of shite managers it's keeping hold of the good ones that is important.

There have been a few short-sighted comments on here over the last few seasons about Hurst's personality, but it cannot be denied that he built a fantastic team spirit while at GTFC and the players seemed to adore him - I'm sure it hasn't been lost on people that the brilliant prodigy Henderson for example has gone to work for him again.

There's little doubt in my mind that history will look back at October 2016 as the moment when the great momentum we had from being promoted, was allowed to slip agonizingly through our fingers.

Firstly he was succeeded by a happy smiling incompetent clown, and now we have a manager who has achieved sod all, while Hurst is well on his way to capturing the fourth promotion of his short career so far.

Oh sh!t...may god help us all.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

They were deep in trouble and are regular strugglers in that division. I'm not saying they are unfashionable as if we are Barcelona. We are just as unfashionable, but we were on an upward curve and not miles away from his family home.

It's absolutely innefective management to have not prepared for the football league. It's ridiculous that a manager feels he has to hint about a S&C coach in interviews to try and get one.

Do you trust the current administration to take the club forward? Do you even trust them to keep us in the league?

I can't say anymore about the claim of ineffective management so I suppose we will have to agree to disagree.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

They were deep in trouble and are regular strugglers in that division. I'm not saying they are unfashionable as if we are Barcelona. We are just as unfashionable, but we were on an upward curve and not miles away from his family home.

It's absolutely innefective management to have not prepared for the football league. It's ridiculous that a manager feels he has to hint about a S&C coach in interviews to try and get one.

Do you trust the current administration to take the club forward? Do you even trust them to keep us in the league?

I really think that some on here must have a photo of PH on top of the screen and every so often look at it put their hands in their pants and pleasure themselves.

He left on his own accord to go to a higher league club on more than likely higher wages, a club that has far better facilities than BP.

I think JF said after the Burton game that we would likely lose £500,000 per season being out of the Football League so the priority must have been to spend cash on the players in the hope that we would return. Considering it took 6 years any cash on preparing for our actual return would have been a waste of cash.


No not really and PH probably didn't either.

Quoted from barralad

I can't say anymore about the claim of ineffective management so I suppose we will have to agree to disagree.

Is that because you are involved with the trust or just because you don't have an opinion on it?

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Is that because you are involved with the trust or just because you don't have an opinion on it?

No it's because I've gone into great length in two long posts as to why I don't agree with your assertion that it is a display of ineffective management not to have prepared for the return back to the football league in the way you think they should've done. It's not very often I agree with Harry x 3 but the bit in blue in his last post nails it for me.

As a fan at the present I feel totally disconnected from the Board,the Manager and yes even the Team,there is an terminal apathy permeating this club.

Quoted from arryarryarry

I really think that some on here must have a photo of PH on top of the screen and every so often look at it put their hands in their pants and pleasure themselves.

He left on his own accord to go to a higher league club on more than likely higher wages, a club that has far better facilities than BP.

I think JF said after the Burton game that we would likely lose £500,000 per season being out of the Football League so the priority must have been to spend cash on the players in the hope that we would return. Considering it took 6 years any cash on preparing for our actual return would have been a waste of cash.


No not really and PH probably didn't either.

I'm not suggesting we should've had one before we were promoted, but it certainly should've been planned for in the event of a promotion. The murmurings from those in charge were that it wasn't something that was needed.