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Rob that is a very narrow view,what about us fans who live miles from GY who do not see the local media ,or indeed subscribe to social media,think you have a very narrow perspective which I would suspect is held by a younger age group,not all of us live our life on line or feel the need to have to.
There's a wide gap between not using it at all and lving your life on line. Lots of people probably check their email a few times a week and that's it, but that would be enough in this case. The trust have to look at the cost and time commitment to alert every single member of their activities. Using online services is free and quick, as is sending out press releases. Once you get to printing out and posting leaflets for members they don't have contact details for then considerable time and money is involved. It's up to them to make that call.
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September 19, 2017, 10:02am |
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There's a wide gap between not using it at all and lving your life on line. Lots of people probably check their email a few times a week and that's it, but that would be enough in this case. The trust have to look at the cost and time commitment to alert every single member of their activities. Using online services is free and quick, as is sending out press releases. Once you get to printing out and posting leaflets for members they don't have contact details for then considerable time and money is involved. It's up to them to make that call.
I agree Rob and as a member of the trust I wouldnt want them spending members money on posting leaflets. Personally i would much rather it was spent either improving the youth section or even giving the BP toilets a spruce up!!!
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September 19, 2017, 10:03am |
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There's a wide gap between not using it at all and lving your life on line. Lots of people probably check their email a few times a week and that's it, but that would be enough in this case. The trust have to look at the cost and time commitment to alert every single member of their activities. Using online services is free and quick, as is sending out press releases. Once you get to printing out and posting leaflets for members they don't have contact details for then considerable time and money is involved. It's up to them to make that call.
Friskney's point is supported by the fact that we have a considerable number of members for whom we don't hold e-mail addresses. If we had to run another all member vote like the one for the shares issue the cost would be enormous. You are right Rob about the expense though. When we produce a newsletter the cost is well into hundreds of pounds to get them posted particularly to exiles. This is money that could better be spent on our work with the youth set up or furthering the experience of the fans. If anyone reading this is a Trust member and you haven't provided us with an e-mail address then please consider doing so.
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September 19, 2017, 10:23am |
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Which the Trust has publically opposed consistently in the press, in the boardroom and even provided sponsorship for the boycott game to ensure it happened in a safe manner. The problem is that often people on see and hear what they want to. Personally I won't ever go to a Checkatrade Trophy game in its current format and I know other Trust board members feel the same way. Apart from throwing toys out the pram I'm not sure what else the Trust can do - the club is very aware of how the fans feel on the subject. If it chooses to make a decision based on money, which it did, that's for the club to defend.
Which is good but then if the others on the board have a different viewpoint it just shows how out of touch they are or more likely they don't care?
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September 19, 2017, 10:29am |
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I agree Rob and as a member of the trust I wouldnt want them spending members money on posting leaflets. Personally i would much rather it was spent either improving the youth section or even giving the BP toilets a spruce up!!!
As an orginisation you have a duty to follow promote equality of opportunity and to promote social inclusion, I accept it is not always easy to achieve,however not to give it any consideration demonstrates the inability to reflect on issues as is the defensive response to my post.Perhaps flyers could be given out at home matches. You complain that only 10 turned up to meeting yet when possible reasons are voiced you mount a dogmatic defence of your practices. As a Trust to be effective you need to listen to your critics and reflect how you can use it to improve the orginisation,otherwise you run the danger of generating the perception you are a closed group run purely for the self interests of those in positions of influence,these are basics of member empowerment. ..
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If any of the people who red crossed this are members of the board of the Trust I would be seriously concerned,if this is the case please explain your opposition to anything in my post.
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September 19, 2017, 2:22pm |
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If any of the people who red crossed this are members of the board of the Trust I would be seriously concerned,if this is the case please explain your opposition to anything in my post.
I haven't. Cloudy (above) isn't a member of the Trust board as far as I'm aware.
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September 19, 2017, 2:37pm |
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Be intrigued to know what anybody could disagree with.
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September 19, 2017, 2:48pm |
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If any of the people who red crossed this are members of the board of the Trust I would be seriously concerned,if this is the case please explain your opposition to anything in my post.
Not guilty m'lud. Flyers could be an option iin future. Much cheaper than sending out although the people responsible for cleaning up after the game might have something to say. Another option might be advertising on the club scoreboard.
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Not guilty m'lud.
Flyers could be an option iin future. Much cheaper than sending out although the people responsible for cleaning up after the game might have something to say. Another option might be advertising on the club scoreboard.
And I would think you might even get a slight discount on the fee as well !! Or possibly not
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